Should a Christian tithe, what does the Bible say

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posthuman

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posthuman said:
Luke 6:30
Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back.
Wow @prophecyuk how you gonna downvote Jesus Christs own words??

Doubleminded man, much?"

Yes you are double minded, you quoted the word law, left off all else I said, now withdrew it, and think you are single minded?

I had right to disagree to your vain attempt, or according to you, I should agree to what you tried to say, no wonder you have nothing better to do in your life.
Is Christ's command law to you or not?

When He says 'keep my commandments' you ought to know that He actually literally personally gave commandments.

Why act like you despise them?
Like i am your enemy because i tell you the truth?
 

posthuman

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Cursed if we do not continue in the law,
Galatians 3:10
For all who rely on the works of the Law are under a curse, as it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."


"in context for you"

:)


Cursed if you rely on works.
Free if you belong to Christ.
 

gb9

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"do you tithe? do you give to any Christian Charities ? do you help anyone who is need? do you feed and clothe the poor? do you do anything for those in prison? do you?

I ask this ( not that you will answer ), because most of you who what to constantly lecture others do not do the things you lecture about."


I can answer for you what Christ told us all, and He decides about us all too, not me, or you, but you are right, I lecture about what we are to do, and it offends you because you do not want to be reminded, or would just let us exhort one another as told to do..

Hebrews 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.


Matthew 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Or be as these non warners forbidders and trap setters..

Isaiah 29:21 That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.

1 Thessalonians 2:16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
simply asking you , being as you are the one talking about loving your brothers, if you give, feed clothe, and help the poor, is not a trap .

here, i'll go first- I do. do you?
 

prophecyuk

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The law is fulfilled before your quote, read carefully for you all, you might see the words, all the law is fulfilled in this one thing, as for giving when asked, that was for people taking off you, not you giving to them in need, you know there is a difference, but I guess you would not want to see that, because you believe we do not have to fulfil the law to Christ..


Is Christ's command law to you or not?
When He says 'keep my commandments' you ought to know that He actually literally personally gave commandments.
Why act like you despise them?
Like i am your enemy because i tell you the truth?"


Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

in context this is not loving your neighbour in need, giving to them in tithing, this is not despising the ones who abuse you..

Luke 6:27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
 

prophecyuk

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"prophecyuk said:
Cursed if we do not continue in the law,
Galatians 3:10
For all who rely on the works of the Law are under a curse, as it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."


"in context for you"

"
Cursed if you dont obey the law, and cursed if you don't believe in Christ..

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in yoursins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die inyour sins.
 

prophecyuk

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"simply asking you , being as you are the one talking about loving your brothers, if you give, feed clothe, and help the poor, is not a trap .

here, i'll go first- I do. do you?"

Your answer..

Proverbs 27:27 Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth.
2 Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

John 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
 

posthuman

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in context this is not loving your neighbour in need, giving to them in tithing, this is not despising the ones who abuse you..
Yeah funny how Jesus doesn't put giving in the context of the word "tithe"

Ain't it...
 

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So mockers fail, and this is why..

Proverbs 3:34 Surely he scorneth the scorners: but he giveth grace unto the lowly.

All the law is fulfilled in loving your neighbour..

Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Tithing is not a tenth, tithing is all great matters of the law..

Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
 

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"prophecyuk said:
Cursed if we do not continue in the law,
Galatians 3:10
For all who rely on the works of the Law are under a curse, as it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."


"in context for you"

"
Cursed if you dont obey the law, and cursed if you don't believe in Christ..

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in yoursins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die inyour sins.
Do you believe He is I AM?

This is what He says is the division of goat and sheep. Not Law keeping.
It is with the heart one believes unto righteousness. Not with the hands one works unto it.

You rely on works, then you are cursed.
You rely on Christ, then you are not.

But you?
You say, cursed if not keeping Law. So what shall I think? Bible indicates you do not believe, if that is what you say.


I hope one day you come to knowledge of Him.
 

prophecyuk

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questions of words is nothing, we give like Jesus or steal like the devil, you said your part..

1 Timothy 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

Ephesians 4:27 Neither give place to the devil.
28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
 

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"simply asking you , being as you are the one talking about loving your brothers, if you give, feed clothe, and help the poor, is not a trap .

here, i'll go first- I do. do you?"

Your answer..

Proverbs 27:27 Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth.
2 Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

John 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
I am not asking you what Scripture says. I know that. I am asking you, do you give and help. you talk about it, do you do it?
 

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"This is what He says is the division of goat and sheep. Not Law keeping.
It is with the heart one believes unto righteousness. Not with the hands one works unto it.

You rely on works, then you are cursed.
You rely on Christ, then you are not."


Being confused does not mean you should think you are right. There is faith in Christ, and works through that faith, no works means no faith. Very simple. If your heart believes in righteousness, then your hands cant be different, they follow, and work this way too..

Ephesians 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Yes I believe in Jesus Christ who is my Lord and Savior and He is I am.

John 18:4 Jesus therefore, knowing all things that should come upon him, went forth, and said unto them, Whom seek ye?
5 They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.
6 As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Amhath sent me unto you.
 

prophecyuk

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I think I will obey God to not talk about myself, but we are known by our fruits, not by our claims..

Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Tithing is giving, giving a tenth and now giving ten times ten, all and wholly.

Matthew 18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

Mark 12:41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.
42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.
43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:
44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.
 
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I am not asking you what Scripture says. I know that. I am asking you, do you give and help. you talk about it, do you do it?
He won't tell you what he says, He is like a pharisee, who goes to scripture thinking it supports him, when in reality, (and I wonder) deep inside, he knows its not true. but he has hidden that truth,
 

prophecyuk

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"So do you still think you are under a curse if not keeping the Law or have you been converted during the last 30 mins?"

If you do, or do not keep the law you are under the curse, as nobody is justified by the law, but they are justified by faith. If you have faith in Christ you are justified, if you are in your sins, you are not justified and die in your sins still being cursed, whether you believe in or do the law or no.


Galatians 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

John 8:21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
 

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"how can he expect us to look to him for any truth, when he does not even know that!!.. lol"

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.