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Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
I had a post ready on this same topic, but you said it well. I was going to ask the Judaizers why it is they are online on the Jewish sabbath, since writing is prohibited by any practicing Jew, here a summary of 39 things a good Jew observes:
The 39 forms of prohibited labor (the 39 Melachah) or a form of labor derived from one of these. They are:
Carrying Burning Extinguishing Finishing Writing Erasing Cooking Washing Sewing Tearing Knotting Untying Shaping Plowing Planting Reaping Harvesting Threshing Winnowing Selecting Sifting Grinding Kneading Combing Spinning Dyeing Chain-stitching Warping Weaving Unraveling Building Demolishing Trapping Shearing Slaughtering Skinning Tanning Smoothing Marking
How can anybody be posting threads ad nauseam about sabbath keeping, and not be keeping the sabbath as they do in Israel? Do you know more about sabbath keeping than Jews? Then you say, well, if you have to work, that's okay. Well, if you're working on something good, that's okay. Well, if you got Judaizing CC threads to work on, that's okay. But then, out of the other sides of their mouths, the sabbath has to be kept holy. Kept holy by breaking the prohibition against work? So, you make up your own rules as to this so-called holiness?
If you need to be Jewish, try doing better than making up your own rules, being half holy about it, some Jew-lite of your own creation. Vanish from CC Friday evenings to Saturday evenings, then come back and work on your mobius strip, legalism threads. You should carry that law corpse on your back properly. Fair enough?
I had a post ready on this same topic, but you said it well. I was going to ask the Judaizers why it is they are online on the Jewish sabbath, since writing is prohibited by any practicing Jew, here a summary of 39 things a good Jew observes:
The 39 forms of prohibited labor (the 39 Melachah) or a form of labor derived from one of these. They are:
Carrying Burning Extinguishing Finishing Writing Erasing Cooking Washing Sewing Tearing Knotting Untying Shaping Plowing Planting Reaping Harvesting Threshing Winnowing Selecting Sifting Grinding Kneading Combing Spinning Dyeing Chain-stitching Warping Weaving Unraveling Building Demolishing Trapping Shearing Slaughtering Skinning Tanning Smoothing Marking
How can anybody be posting threads ad nauseam about sabbath keeping, and not be keeping the sabbath as they do in Israel? Do you know more about sabbath keeping than Jews? Then you say, well, if you have to work, that's okay. Well, if you're working on something good, that's okay. Well, if you got Judaizing CC threads to work on, that's okay. But then, out of the other sides of their mouths, the sabbath has to be kept holy. Kept holy by breaking the prohibition against work? So, you make up your own rules as to this so-called holiness?
If you need to be Jewish, try doing better than making up your own rules, being half holy about it, some Jew-lite of your own creation. Vanish from CC Friday evenings to Saturday evenings, then come back and work on your mobius strip, legalism threads. You should carry that law corpse on your back properly. Fair enough?
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Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
Again, equating repeating the same Sabbath arguments on the Sabbath day, in a message board context, as being on the same level as serving in the temple, or pulling a sheep from a pit, well I think it's a sign that the Sabbath keeper is giving way too much importance to their rehashing of what they've already said hundreds of times.
IF
arguing for the sabbath on the Sabbath on a message board = pulling a sheep out of the pit on a Sabbath
THEN
cat = dog
and i'm gonna go find a cat to bark at a dog as the dog meows back.
Again, equating repeating the same Sabbath arguments on the Sabbath day, in a message board context, as being on the same level as serving in the temple, or pulling a sheep from a pit, well I think it's a sign that the Sabbath keeper is giving way too much importance to their rehashing of what they've already said hundreds of times.
IF
arguing for the sabbath on the Sabbath on a message board = pulling a sheep out of the pit on a Sabbath
THEN
cat = dog
and i'm gonna go find a cat to bark at a dog as the dog meows back.
C
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
Same answer:
"I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but not everything is constructive. No one should seek their own good, but the good of others.
Haters turn every sabbath thread into a debate.
Is it wrong to stop people from killing on the sabbath?
Same answer:
"I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but not everything is constructive. No one should seek their own good, but the good of others.
Haters turn every sabbath thread into a debate.
Is it wrong to stop people from killing on the sabbath?
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Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
The equation from pro-Sabbath keepers seems to go something like this...
Rehashing what I've already said hundreds of times to the same people about the Sabbath, on the Sabbath, in a message board context = (or is the same as)
1. Working at a soup kitchen even on the Sabbath.
2. Working at a homeless shelter even on a Sabbath.
3. Pulling a sheep out of a ditch even on the Sabbath
4. etc etc
Those using this equation/formula, I think they may be overstating the importance of what they're doing.
The equation from pro-Sabbath keepers seems to go something like this...
Rehashing what I've already said hundreds of times to the same people about the Sabbath, on the Sabbath, in a message board context = (or is the same as)
1. Working at a soup kitchen even on the Sabbath.
2. Working at a homeless shelter even on a Sabbath.
3. Pulling a sheep out of a ditch even on the Sabbath
4. etc etc
Those using this equation/formula, I think they may be overstating the importance of what they're doing.
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
Colossians 2:16-17 So don’t let anyone stand in judgment over you and dictate what you should eat or drink, what festivals you should celebrate, or how you should observe a new moon or Sabbath days— all these are only a shadow of what shall come. The reality, the core, the import, is found in Christ.
Colossians 2:16-17 So don’t let anyone stand in judgment over you and dictate what you should eat or drink, what festivals you should celebrate, or how you should observe a new moon or Sabbath days— all these are only a shadow of what shall come. The reality, the core, the import, is found in Christ.
J
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
You know what I've always observed and thought to be the case, what we're really dealing with are Judaizers, trying to bring Christians under bondage, either for being in some cult or just wolves. Paul thoroughly addressed this.
Galatians 5:13-14 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Galatians 2:4-5 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: to whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
Galatians 4:9-11 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
You know what I've always observed and thought to be the case, what we're really dealing with are Judaizers, trying to bring Christians under bondage, either for being in some cult or just wolves. Paul thoroughly addressed this.
Galatians 5:13-14 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Galatians 2:4-5 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: to whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
Galatians 4:9-11 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
O
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
As far as a server at a restaurant on the Sabbath? That is between them and God and what He is calling them to do. (Although we try not to eat out until after sundown. But we did eat breakfast out last Sabbath since we're in the process of moving. But I digress.)
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Matt,
you have shown us a Biblical parallel in every day life,
concerning the necessity of eating when we are hungry;
Matt, my husband and I perceive that you are a man without guile.
may our Father bless and keep you and yours on this most
blessed day.
MATT.12:1
At that time Jesus went through the grain fields on the Sabbath.
And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain
and to eat.
2.
And when the Pharisees saw it, they said to Him, look, your disciples
are doing is not lawful to do on the Sabbath!.............,
As far as a server at a restaurant on the Sabbath? That is between them and God and what He is calling them to do. (Although we try not to eat out until after sundown. But we did eat breakfast out last Sabbath since we're in the process of moving. But I digress.)
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Matt,
you have shown us a Biblical parallel in every day life,
concerning the necessity of eating when we are hungry;
Matt, my husband and I perceive that you are a man without guile.
may our Father bless and keep you and yours on this most
blessed day.
MATT.12:1
At that time Jesus went through the grain fields on the Sabbath.
And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain
and to eat.
2.
And when the Pharisees saw it, they said to Him, look, your disciples
are doing is not lawful to do on the Sabbath!.............,
J
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
Matthew 13:24-25 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Matthew 13:24-25 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
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Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
I sense I'm getting to the point I'm about to start repeating myself. I could justify doing that by saying it's like pulling a sheep out of a pit, or it's like feeding a homeless person. But I know repeating myself isn't that important. If you want to read it again, you can go read it again, no need to repeat myself.
So I'll be taking off.
I sense I'm getting to the point I'm about to start repeating myself. I could justify doing that by saying it's like pulling a sheep out of a pit, or it's like feeding a homeless person. But I know repeating myself isn't that important. If you want to read it again, you can go read it again, no need to repeat myself.
So I'll be taking off.
J
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
I was once in a Jewish restaurant one Saturday, and needed to leave a note to somebody. I was yelled at by a Jew, who called me a "bad boy" for writing. Of course, I am a Christian Gentile, but my first thought is that this dumb hypocrite can cause others to have to work on cooking and serving him, so he can put on a pretense of being holy. This is what you also have on these CC threads. And I'm sure God's really impressed with their airs of special holiness baggage, as Christians.
I was once in a Jewish restaurant one Saturday, and needed to leave a note to somebody. I was yelled at by a Jew, who called me a "bad boy" for writing. Of course, I am a Christian Gentile, but my first thought is that this dumb hypocrite can cause others to have to work on cooking and serving him, so he can put on a pretense of being holy. This is what you also have on these CC threads. And I'm sure God's really impressed with their airs of special holiness baggage, as Christians.
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
Are we endeavoring to enter into His rest, or are we missing the whole point by having another thread concerning the Sabbath without meaning Hebrews 4:10?
For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Are we endeavoring to enter into His rest, or are we missing the whole point by having another thread concerning the Sabbath without meaning Hebrews 4:10?
For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
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Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
Missing a point, I'd say not. More on the order of pointless. Trolling at its finest. I've always wondered why these people never tire of repeating themselves, like some Chatty Cathy doll, same with threads such as OSAS. Maybe it is that they actually think CC is the Chatty Cathy web.
Missing a point, I'd say not. More on the order of pointless. Trolling at its finest. I've always wondered why these people never tire of repeating themselves, like some Chatty Cathy doll, same with threads such as OSAS. Maybe it is that they actually think CC is the Chatty Cathy web.
P
Re: Should "Sabbath keepers" discuss/debate keeping Sabbath online on the Sabbath?
I see. So if you pass a store that is being looted and take something, no problem as it was already being looted? If enough people do it, it isn't wrong? Your logic and reasoning will get you somewhere besides heaven.
I see. So if you pass a store that is being looted and take something, no problem as it was already being looted? If enough people do it, it isn't wrong? Your logic and reasoning will get you somewhere besides heaven.
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