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And yet in the time of Apostle Paul the church were practicing this Holy Communion of CHRIST, in remembrance of HIM, who gave us the New Covenant, whenever they meet together. After nailing the Old feasts practices on the Cross, believers only remember in thanksgiving through the Holy Communion, about the Heavenly manna that came down to earth, and liberated us from these enslaving traditions and divisions and now to be fully trained and fully equipped to do all kind of Good deeds towards the poor, from the usefulness of all Scripture that has taught, rebuked our errors, corrected our faults and trained us in righteousness, as we 'abide' in them, by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT.
That is why JESUS justified, who is truly HIS mother, brother and sister in the church even today that;
"Who is My mother, brother and sister? Those who obey GOD and do HIS will." (that is according to the New Covenant of GOD that HE made with all of us believers and witness in the same practices given)
Even JESUS was not moved as HE witnessed how the Jews practiced these feasts in grand to praise and honor GOD in thanksgiving, because there were a lot of hypocrisy in them. The rich enjoyed and benefited from these feasts, while the poor suffered day by day. Do you see the same thing happening in the church and they are even here in this forum, building up lambs and sheep of GOD to practice in deception their hypocrisy.
JESUS already said to the religious Jews, what GOD thinks of them, written in Mathew 15; 8-9 and also to the churches today, in their manner, who are still in the flesh/carnal desired practices and have established them for the rich, that;
"This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far away from me, in 'vain' do they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men."
That is why JESUS justified, who is truly HIS mother, brother and sister in the church even today that;
"Who is My mother, brother and sister? Those who obey GOD and do HIS will." (that is according to the New Covenant of GOD that HE made with all of us believers and witness in the same practices given)
Even JESUS was not moved as HE witnessed how the Jews practiced these feasts in grand to praise and honor GOD in thanksgiving, because there were a lot of hypocrisy in them. The rich enjoyed and benefited from these feasts, while the poor suffered day by day. Do you see the same thing happening in the church and they are even here in this forum, building up lambs and sheep of GOD to practice in deception their hypocrisy.
JESUS already said to the religious Jews, what GOD thinks of them, written in Mathew 15; 8-9 and also to the churches today, in their manner, who are still in the flesh/carnal desired practices and have established them for the rich, that;
"This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far away from me, in 'vain' do they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men."
25 “Now his older son was in the field, and as he came and drew near to the house, he heard music and dancing. 26 And he called one of the servants and asked what these things meant. 27 And he said to him, ‘Your brother has come, and your father has killed the fattened calf, because he has received him back safe and sound.’
28 But he was angry and refused to go in. His father came out and entreated him, 29 but he answered his father, ‘Look, these many years I have served you, and I never disobeyed your command, yet you never gave me a young goat, that I might celebrate with my friends. 30 But when this son of yours came, who has devoured your property with prostitutes, you killed the fattened calf for him!’
31 And he said to him, ‘Son, you are always with me, and all that is mine is yours. 32 It was fitting to celebrate and be glad, for this your brother was dead, and is alive; he was lost, and is found.’” (from Luke 15)
You're sounding a bit like the older brother in the parable of the Prodigal.28 But he was angry and refused to go in. His father came out and entreated him, 29 but he answered his father, ‘Look, these many years I have served you, and I never disobeyed your command, yet you never gave me a young goat, that I might celebrate with my friends. 30 But when this son of yours came, who has devoured your property with prostitutes, you killed the fattened calf for him!’
31 And he said to him, ‘Son, you are always with me, and all that is mine is yours. 32 It was fitting to celebrate and be glad, for this your brother was dead, and is alive; he was lost, and is found.’” (from Luke 15)
Sabbaths are observed according to the one who is Lord of it. His call, not mine. The entire book will describe relationships of days and months.
Here is an example
Numbers 28:16-18
16 And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the LORD.
17 And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten.
18 In the first day shall be an holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work therein:
"no manner of servile work" indicates a day of rest. A convocation is a time for understanding and remembering the glory of God keeping in mind that Jesus Christ is our Creator.
Leviticus 23:2-6
2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
3 Six days shall work be done : but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings
4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
The first month is Nisan or Abib. The Bible says both. This month has 30 days according to the Hebrew calendar.
According to the Gregorian, relating Saturday to the 15th day, the 30th would be a Sunday. The 1st of the 2nd month then would be a Monday.
Exodus 16:1 And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt.
So the 15th day of the 2nd month (according to the Gregorian) would also be a Monday.
Exodus 16:4-7
4 Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.
5 And it shall come to pass, that on the sixth day they shall prepare that which they bring in ; and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily.
6 And Moses and Aaron said unto all the children of Israel, At even, then ye shall know that the LORD hath brought you out from the land of Egypt:
7 And in the morning, then ye shall see the glory of the LORD; for that he heareth your murmurings against the LORD: and what are we, that ye murmur against us?
So the next day (the 16th according to the Gregorian calendar) would be a Tuesday when Israel began to gather manna.
Exodus 16:22-23
22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said , To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe ; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
The 6th day would then be a Sunday, and the first Sabbath recording in the Bible would be a Monday, but that isn't according to the Hebrew calendar so the days of Sabbaths are our Lord's call, not ours. Back then the new moons were the sign that a new month had begun, for Israel didn't have calendar as we do. The Hebrew days of the months alternated during each year between 29 and 30 days. With this understanding we can also calculate what days that the feast of tabernacle Sabbaths (plural) were. But does it really make a difference? Maybe. Maybe not. The spiritual understanding of why God gave them is important though.
Leviticus 23:34-35 and 39
34 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying , The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD.
35 On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein
39 Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.
The Lord of the Sabbath calls the shots
And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. (Luke 6:5)
Here is an example
Numbers 28:16-18
16 And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the LORD.
17 And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten.
18 In the first day shall be an holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work therein:
"no manner of servile work" indicates a day of rest. A convocation is a time for understanding and remembering the glory of God keeping in mind that Jesus Christ is our Creator.
Leviticus 23:2-6
2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
3 Six days shall work be done : but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings
4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
The first month is Nisan or Abib. The Bible says both. This month has 30 days according to the Hebrew calendar.
According to the Gregorian, relating Saturday to the 15th day, the 30th would be a Sunday. The 1st of the 2nd month then would be a Monday.
Exodus 16:1 And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt.
So the 15th day of the 2nd month (according to the Gregorian) would also be a Monday.
Exodus 16:4-7
4 Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.
5 And it shall come to pass, that on the sixth day they shall prepare that which they bring in ; and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily.
6 And Moses and Aaron said unto all the children of Israel, At even, then ye shall know that the LORD hath brought you out from the land of Egypt:
7 And in the morning, then ye shall see the glory of the LORD; for that he heareth your murmurings against the LORD: and what are we, that ye murmur against us?
So the next day (the 16th according to the Gregorian calendar) would be a Tuesday when Israel began to gather manna.
Exodus 16:22-23
22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.
23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said , To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe ; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.
The 6th day would then be a Sunday, and the first Sabbath recording in the Bible would be a Monday, but that isn't according to the Hebrew calendar so the days of Sabbaths are our Lord's call, not ours. Back then the new moons were the sign that a new month had begun, for Israel didn't have calendar as we do. The Hebrew days of the months alternated during each year between 29 and 30 days. With this understanding we can also calculate what days that the feast of tabernacle Sabbaths (plural) were. But does it really make a difference? Maybe. Maybe not. The spiritual understanding of why God gave them is important though.
Leviticus 23:34-35 and 39
34 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying , The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD.
35 On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein
39 Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.
The Lord of the Sabbath calls the shots
And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. (Luke 6:5)
One has to look in the OT as well as the NT. Do you agree that Jesus is the creator of all things including the feasts?
Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created , that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Therefore, we can also say that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ/Messiah/Emanuel gave the law to Moses. To me this was certainly a startling revelation when I was realized the truth via the Holy Spirit of direction.
Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created , that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Therefore, we can also say that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ/Messiah/Emanuel gave the law to Moses. To me this was certainly a startling revelation when I was realized the truth via the Holy Spirit of direction.
You know that Jesus is never recorded as telling anyone to keep the feasts but it is evident that He kept them. We should however do as He did.
John 7:2 and 14 Now the Jews' feast of tabernacles was at hand. Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught.
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
John 7:2 and 14 Now the Jews' feast of tabernacles was at hand. Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught.
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
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That is out of context and is not what Philippians is talking about.
Philippians 2:4-6 KJV
(4) Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
(5) Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
(6) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Philippians 2:4-6 KJV
(4) Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
(5) Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
(6) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
So are you indicating that there were no dominions, or principalities, or powers: created in the feasts? Or are you just looking a creation as in the first 6 days in Genesis 1 and 2? I don't quite follow you on this.
"For by him were all things created , that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
When the Bible says all things I include the Word of God also. I think that includes the statutes of the feasts as well. I continue to say that these things are to be exacted in the Spirit, not the flesh or carnal thoughts and actions.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
"For by him were all things created , that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
When the Bible says all things I include the Word of God also. I think that includes the statutes of the feasts as well. I continue to say that these things are to be exacted in the Spirit, not the flesh or carnal thoughts and actions.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
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Thanks for continuing with Philippians. So I ask you, what did Jesus teach in the temple during the feast of tabernacles?
John 7:15-16
15 And the Jews marvelled , saying , How knoweth this man letters, having never learned ?
16 Jesus answered them, and said , My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
We all know who sent Jesus. He is the same God who gave the principles of the feasts to Israel. We can all agree on that.
John 7:15-16
15 And the Jews marvelled , saying , How knoweth this man letters, having never learned ?
16 Jesus answered them, and said , My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
We all know who sent Jesus. He is the same God who gave the principles of the feasts to Israel. We can all agree on that.
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I know all things were created by Him. When did God give the feasts? Leviticus 23, not before. They teach the plan of salvation. God gave the instruction and they followed. You cannot say they were there before Leviticus 23. They sacrificed but did not have the sanctuary before, or the services involved with it.
