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I am born again . . . sometimes I sin . . . sometimes I fail but the thing is I know who I am in Christ, I know that I have been bought with a price . . that price being the death of Jesus Christ who shed his blood for the remission of sin . . I place my faith in Him and His redemptive work and I will not be perfected until the day I am raised in glory when He picks up his purchased property . . . Am I looking forward to that day? . . . You better believe it!
S
Not only are you serving Satan by accusing others, you are an emperor with no clothing, parading around in your spiritual nakedness, and everyone else except other sinless perfectionists know it. You should read that children's story. It would be very instructive. Ask God to show you whether you are under deception.
Yes I have seen some lose their cool but mostly you have not been attacked. in heated debates going head to head with different views different beliefs showing scripture for each view and correcting each other is not attacking. Now calling names saying mean rude things using scripture as a weapon this is attacking. you need a tough skin for debates and if you see a heated debate such as the one you and i are doing as attacking then you don't see what attacking is.
You attack others by saying how according to their words they are not good enough, how because they are not sinless and perfect like you they aren't good enough or even saved.
You attack others by saying how according to their words they are not good enough, how because they are not sinless and perfect like you they aren't good enough or even saved.
J
But it's just idiocy, the very concept of human perfection, aside from Jesus Christ, no gospel known to man. I've never seen some of these ridiculous web "doctrines" my entire life in the Christian community, nobody ever so foolish to claim perfection. I've not even heard such a claim from any secular person, no matter how bloated the ego.
The guy's trolling. 1 John 1:8 spells it out: he's just a liar, without the truth in him. He does this to every thread, repeats himself ad nauseam. Don't you notice this? That's what trolls do! He's here to stir the pot, and that's all.
If you enjoy feeding the troll, I suppose that's alright, but you encourage him, by giving him attention and a platform. Just thought I'd throw that in. It's about somebody mentally ill, not the faith.
The guy's trolling. 1 John 1:8 spells it out: he's just a liar, without the truth in him. He does this to every thread, repeats himself ad nauseam. Don't you notice this? That's what trolls do! He's here to stir the pot, and that's all.
If you enjoy feeding the troll, I suppose that's alright, but you encourage him, by giving him attention and a platform. Just thought I'd throw that in. It's about somebody mentally ill, not the faith.
simple belief, is believing in a god.
you can twist the word, yet times and dates dont lie. quoting out of context only shows milk v meat. etc
the christian bible has two main people in it, jews and gentiles.
yet act 2 and acts 10 are reference to two different people. and time and dates to how and when they were told. (about god and about jesus and about a holy spirit, being given)etc
7 On the contrary, when they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been entrusted with the gospel to the circumcised8 (for he who worked through Peter for his apostolic ministry to the circumcised worked also through me for mine to the Gentiles),Galatians 2
you can twist the word, yet times and dates dont lie. quoting out of context only shows milk v meat. etc
the christian bible has two main people in it, jews and gentiles.
yet act 2 and acts 10 are reference to two different people. and time and dates to how and when they were told. (about god and about jesus and about a holy spirit, being given)etc
7 On the contrary, when they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been entrusted with the gospel to the circumcised8 (for he who worked through Peter for his apostolic ministry to the circumcised worked also through me for mine to the Gentiles),Galatians 2
S
Make it a practice in your prayers to ask God to remove any spiritual self deception you have, and to show you the depths of your sinfulness. I challenge you to do this. If I'm wrong and you are as righteous as you think you are, no loss....if you're wrong and you're in spiritual deception, I think He will show you.
Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he [God the Father] for our profit, that we might be partakers of his [God, the Father's] holiness. (2 Peter 1:4) Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness [fruit of the Spirit] unto them which are exercised thereby . . . Why would God have to chasten us if He expects perfection from us? Why even talk about chastening? Why do our earthly father's chasten us - because we have disobeyed . . . Do we live in disobedience to our earthly father's Or does the chastening bring us back to obedience?
J
I disagree. Name one mainstream church, in all Christendom, with these "doctrines." I've known many churches, many Christians, zero making these claims. If you would, provide a link to the Church of the Sinless, extant in the Christian community, some such denomination. That goes for a lot of doubt filth here, that is only on the web. This is all a stupid, repetitive facade.
There are a number of churches actually. The Church of the Nazarene is one. They have been changing the doctrine though which is article 10 in their articles of faith that if anyone cares to look it up. We are in dark times where very few are actually walking in the Spirit though many claim it. As we can see though, they twist things.
The teaching is called entire sanctification.
The teaching is called entire sanctification.
S
I don't think you will meet too many sinless perfectionists at church. I have talked to some on forums and it seems like they don't fellowship with others very well. It is probably a hard thing for them to be around 'imperfect people' since no one else measures up to their standards.
When I've chatted with them, that's the first question I ask..whether they are in fellowship and most will say no. I always mention how Scripture teaches us to assemble together and that the New Testament believer is supposed to be in fellowship and under accountability with a fellowship. That's the obvious context. I point out that they are in disobedience by not doing so.
Some few assemble with a fellowship but not the majority of the ones who truly claim sinlessness.
When I've chatted with them, that's the first question I ask..whether they are in fellowship and most will say no. I always mention how Scripture teaches us to assemble together and that the New Testament believer is supposed to be in fellowship and under accountability with a fellowship. That's the obvious context. I point out that they are in disobedience by not doing so.
Some few assemble with a fellowship but not the majority of the ones who truly claim sinlessness.
It's not the church it's the ppl in it. in every church there many different ppl with many different views and beliefs about things even if they are in the same denomination. Also the web allows ppl from all around the world to come together and voice their hearts beliefs. If it is stupid and a repetitive facade then spreading God's love through the web is pointless then isn't it?
funny ever human needs food. lol funny how some say there are many devils. lol
yet, some cant define what love is. or hope is or faith is.etc whos love or faith or hope do you trust in lol
1 Corinthians 13: The Way of Love
13 So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
yet, some cant define what love is. or hope is or faith is.etc whos love or faith or hope do you trust in lol
1 Corinthians 13: The Way of Love
13 So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.