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okay, one more time for anyone who missed.

The Savior is not a day of the week. He is the Savior.
Try to repeat it in your mind. The Savior is not the Sabbath day.

The Sabbath is the day that the Savior hallowed and commanded us to keep it holy.
 

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Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it. For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. For we who have believed do enter that rest.

(Hebrews 4:1-3)

enter in; be immersed
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swing wide, ancient gate!
 
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did the cross give you license to break commandments? is that how this thing works?

(Matthew 5:17)

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.



(Matthew 17:1-9)

1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,
2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
6 And when the disciples heard [it], they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.
7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.
8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only.
9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.
 

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is this still going on? ok please listen, our understanding of scripture may differ, and as for me the more I learn the less I realize I know, this does not negate in any way my experience or relationship with my Savior, however as I do observe the Sabbath as described in Exo. 20, this in no way changes the fact that the same Savior who will raise me up on the last day will raise all whom the father has drawn (John 6:44) so pleas don't think any less of those who choose to walk the path they have been led to walk, I mean who are you (any of us) to thrust one out of the way they are led to walk? is the Fathers arm shortened that He cannot save? is He able to guide and lead all into truth who seek it? no contention is from above, seek the way, the truth and the life, and leave the convincing to Him....
 
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Hebrews 4.
People try to use this to say the Sabbath day is the Messiah.
The text does not support such a huge doctrinal shift.
Let's look at the text.


There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God [did] from his.
Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
Hebrews 4:9-11 (KJV, MBM)

What is the example of unbelief?
Who was it that would not "enter into his rest".
The children of Israel, who rebelled, because of their hardness of heart, their unbelief, would not be allowed to enter the land, until the rebellious generation died out. In Ezekiel 20, it mentions about six times, they profaned His Sabbaths. Not good.


Yet also I lifted up my hand unto them in the wilderness,
that I would not bring them into the land which I had given [them], flowing with milk and honey,
which [is] the glory of all lands;
Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes,

but polluted my sabbaths:

for their heart went after their idols.

Ezekiel 20:15-16 (KJV, MBM)

I
[am] YHVH your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them;

And hallow my sabbaths;

and they shall be a sign between me and you,
that ye may know that I [am] YHVH your God.
Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me:
they walked not in my statutes,
neither kept my judgments to do them,
which [if] a man do, he shall even live in them;

they polluted my sabbaths:

then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them,
to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness.
Nevertheless I withdrew mine hand, and wrought for my name's sake,
that it should not be polluted in the sight of the heathen, I
n whose sight I brought them forth.
I lifted up mine hand unto them also in the wilderness, t
hat I would scatter them among the heathen,
and disperse them through the countries;
Because they had not executed my judgments,
but had despised my statutes,

and had polluted my sabbaths,

and their eyes were after their fathers' idols.
Wherefore I gave them also statutes [that were] not good,
and judgments whereby they should not live;
And I polluted them in their own gifts,
in that they caused to pass through [the fire] all that openeth the womb, that I might make them desolate,
to the end that they might know that I [am] YHVH.

Ezekiel 20:19-26 (KJV, MBM)
 

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it doesn't say "we who keep the Law of Moses do enter that rest"

it says "
we who believe"
 

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Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths,
to be a sign between me and them,
that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

(Ezekiel 20:12)

for a sign.

to teach that it is Jah that sanctifies.

whoever has ceased from his own labor, and believing, come to know that it is the Son who has sanctified you by His one perfect sacrifice, has entered His rest.

but you still think it is just about "
behavior modification" and keeping rituals :(
it's appealing to the flesh, for sure. but of no spiritual value for life.

((the veil))
 

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((y'all have no idea what i do on saturdays, so don't even start with the assumptions and accusations lol -- "
he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand"))
 

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is this still going on? ok please listen, our understanding of scripture may differ, and as for me the more I learn the less I realize I know, this does not negate in any way my experience or relationship with my Savior, however as I do observe the Sabbath as described in Exo. 20, this in no way changes the fact that the same Savior who will raise me up on the last day will raise all whom the father has drawn (John 6:44) so pleas don't think any less of those who choose to walk the path they have been led to walk, I mean who are you (any of us) to thrust one out of the way they are led to walk? is the Fathers arm shortened that He cannot save? is He able to guide and lead all into truth who seek it? no contention is from above, seek the way, the truth and the life, and leave the convincing to Him....

amen

The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him.
(Romans 14:3)
 
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It doesn't say, just believe and you can freely break the righteous commandments.
It doesn't say, you can use your private interpretation to replace any commandments of your choice.
come out of Babylon.
 
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Have any of us done these things in the Law yet?...or are we really "replacing the commandments of your choice?"

Are you stoning the people around you that are doing this?

Leviticus 20:27 (NASB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] 'Now a man or a woman who is a medium or a spiritist shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones, their bloodguiltiness is upon them.'"

Have any of you stoned those that did any work on the Sabbath yet - even if someone picked up some sticks?

Numbers 15:32-35 (KJV)
[SUP]32 [/SUP] And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.

[SUP]33 [/SUP] And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.

[SUP]34 [/SUP] And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.

[SUP]35 [/SUP] And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.

How about this?

Leviticus 24:16 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and al
l the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.


What about the fact that in the Law you are to stone those in your family that try to get you to follow other gods? Deut. 13:6-10

Deuteronomy 13:10 (KJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]
And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

It also says in the Law that we are to put to death our children for being disobedient - have we done that yet?

I could go on and on but the reality is as James says - you break one law - you are guilty of the whole Law.

It is so obvious that no one here is "keeping the law" and in fact break the Law every day.

Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness and living to everyone
that believes. We have died to the Law SO THAT
we could be joined to Another, Christ Himself. ( who fulfilled the whole law for us )

 

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1) Acts 13:14-15, 42-44: “But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia,
and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down. And after the reading of the law
and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren,

if ye have any word of exhortation for the people, say on.”
Then Paul stood up, and spoke, preaching Christ to them.

“And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, [the Gentiles besought]
that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.”

Now since Paul was preaching “the grace of God” (verse 43),
here was his opportunity to straighten out these Gentiles,
and explain that the Sabbath was done away.

Why should he wait a whole week, in order to preach to the Gentiles
on the next Sabbath? If the day had now been changed to Sunday,
why did not Paul tell them they would not have to wait a week, but
the very next day, Sunday, was the proper day for this service?

But notice what Paul did.

“And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.”

Here Paul waited a whole week, passing up a Sunday,
in order to preach to the Gentiles that besought teaching, on the Sabbath day.
 

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both kings and servents where required to observe it. Notice the extent
to which God takes the command—even the cattle are to rest.

Can we see how loving God is toward man and even animals?
How do the animals recieve rest in the new testement?

Keeping the Sabbath is good for us. There is an incredible health benefit
in resting from our labors. But there are spiritual benefits that far outweigh
anything physical
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God also gave His people, specifically the tribe of Judah,
the responsibility of preserving the knowledge of the correct
day (Romans 3:2). The Jews of our time have done this job well.

There is no question as to which day is the Sabbath day to a Jew.
Yet, it is not a Jewish day!
 
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1) Acts 13:14-15, 42-44: “But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia,
and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down. And after the reading of the law
and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren,

if ye have any word of exhortation for the people, say on.”
Then Paul stood up, and spoke, preaching Christ to them.

“And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, [the Gentiles besought]
that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.”

Now since Paul was preaching “the grace of God” (verse 43),
here was his opportunity to straighten out these Gentiles,
and explain that the Sabbath was done away.

Why should he wait a whole week, in order to preach to the Gentiles
on the next Sabbath? If the day had now been changed to Sunday,
why did not Paul tell them they would not have to wait a week, but
the very next day, Sunday, was the proper day for this service?

But notice what Paul did.

“And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.”

Here Paul waited a whole week, passing up a Sunday,
in order to preach to the Gentiles that besought teaching, on the Sabbath day.
Simple...he was going to talk with the Jews there because that's were they all congregated once a week. Jewish people meet together on their Sabbath day. Paul wanted to preach the gospel to the Jew first then to the Gentile. We need to "go where the people are" and this especially includes synagogues when looking for Jewish people.

As, it turned out in Acts 13:46 Paul walked away from them there when they "judged themselves unworthy of eternal life " through Christ.

Acts 13:46 (NASB)
[SUP]46 [/SUP] Paul and Barnabas spoke out boldly and said, "It was necessary that the word of God be spoken to you first; since you repudiate it and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life, behold, we are turning to the Gentiles.




 

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Simple...he was going to talk with the Jews there because that's were they all congregated once a week. Jewish people meet together on their Sabbath day. Paul wanted to preach the gospel to the Jew first then to the Gentile.


that is what everyone tries to say,
but that is [not] what that verse says.
the jews where not even there when Paul said that

“And when [the Jews were gone out of the synagogue], the Gentiles besought
that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.”
 

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1. Paul was a Pharisee. A teacher of God's law. He continued to
call himself a Pharisee even after joining the church.

(Acts 23:6) Then Paul, knowing that some of them were Sadducees and the others Pharisees,
called out in the Sanhedrin, "My brothers, I am a Pharisee, descended from Pharisees.
I stand on trial because of the hope of the resurrection of the dead."

2. Paul loved God's law. It was a delight to him.

(Romans 7:22) For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being,


3. Paul called God's law holy.

(Romans 7:12) So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy,
righteous and good.


4. Paul knew that breaking God's law is the very definition of sin.

(1 John 3:4) Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law:
for sin is the transgression of the law.

5. Paul said that we don't nullify the law of God by our faith in Jesus Christ.

(Romans 3:31) Do we nullify the law by this faith? By no means!
Rather we uphold the law.

6. Paul often read from the scriptures on the sabbath (which is kept by the apostles 84
times in the book of Acts). And the only scriptures at that time was the old testament.

(Acts 17:2) As was his custom, Paul went into the synagogue,
and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures.

7. Paul was accused of forsaking the law of Moses when he first joined the church.
(And ironically, he's still being accused today.)

(Act 21:21) They have been informed that you teach all the Jews who live among
the Gentiles to turn away from Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children
or live according to our customs.


8. These accusations were shown to be false.

(Acts 21:21) Take these men, join in their purification rites and pay their expenses,
so that they can have their heads shaved. Then everyone will know there is no truth
in these reports about you, but that you yourself are living in obedience to the law.


9. When Paul was accused of forsaking the law of Moses, he always denied this,
and said he does live according to the law.

(Acts 24:14) But this I confess to you, that according to the Way, which they call
a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the Law
and written in the Prophets,


10. Paul said that those who refuse to submit to the law are "carnal minded"
and hostile to God.

(Romans 8:7-8) The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit
to God's law, nor can it do so. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.


11. Paul continued to travel to Jerusalem to celebrate God's feast days
after joining the church.

(Acts 18:21) But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that
cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God will. And he sailed from Ephesus.


12. Paul often quoted from Moses's writings, and cited it as authority.

(1 Corinthians 9:9-10) Do I say this merely on human authority?
Doesn’t the Law say the same thing? For it is written in the Law of Moses:
“Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.” Is it about oxen that God
is concerned? Surely he says this for us, doesn’t he? Yes, this was written for us,
because whoever plows and threshes should be able to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest.


13. Paul claimed that ALL scripture is good for instruction in righteousness,
and given through inspiration of God. He never singled out Moses' writings.

(2 Timothy 3:16) All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
correcting and training in righteousness,


14. Paul mentions that the levitical priests are still offering sacrifices to God
even after Christ's death on the cross.

(Hebrews 8:3-4) Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices,
and so it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer.

If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests
who offer the gifts prescribed by the law.


15. The most well known teaching in Paul's letters is the one where he says
"you are not under law but under grace".

Millions of people quote this scripture, they almost always leave out the scripture
that immediately follows it. Watch what happens when you add the context....

(Romans 6:14-16) For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under
the law, but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law
but under grace? By no means! Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to
someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey--whether you are
slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?


16. Paul told the Colossians not to let anyone judge them because they were observing
God's sabbaths and feasts because these appointed times are "a shadow of things to come".

Meaning they reveal future events, just like the passover foreshadowed Christ's
sacrifice on the cross.(Colossians 2:16-17)


17. Paul never repremanded anyone for obeying God's law. Instead, he repremanded
new gentile converts, the Galatians, who were trying to be justified by the law,
instead of faith in Jesus Christ.

(Galatians 2:16) Know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith
in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by
faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.

18. The Galatians, who Paul was repremanding for trying to be justified by the law,
were going back to serving other gods after they were circumcised. This is why Paul
had to explain that the works of the law can't earn your salvation.

(Galatians 4: 8-11) Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those
who by nature are not gods. But now that you know God—or rather are known by God
—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable forces? Do you wish
to be enslaved by them all over again? 10 You are observing special days and months
and seasons and years! I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you.

19. Paul understood that obedience to God's law is a natural result of salvation.
Once you become a true christian, God writes His law on your heart and mind,
and causes you to walk in them.

(Hebrews 10:16) "This is the covenant I will make with them after that time,
says the Lord. I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds."

20. Paul's letters come with a warning label attached to them.

(2 Peter 3:16-17) He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these
matters.His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant
and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you
may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.
 

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Act 16:12 And from thence to Philippi, which is the chief city of that part of
Macedonia, and a colony: and we were in that city abiding certain days.

Act 16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side,
where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto
the women which resorted thither.
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Act 17:1 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia,
they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews:

Act 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them,
and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

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Act 18:1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth;
Act 18:2 And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy,
with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart
from Rome and came unto them.
Act 18:3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them,
and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers.

Act 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath,
and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

In each case Paul was preaching to Gentiles in Gentile cities on the Sabbath.
it is recorded over 80 times Paul preached to gentials on the sabbath day.


and this was after Acts 13:46
 
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1) Acts 13:14-15, 42-44: “But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia,
and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down. And after the reading of the law
and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren,

if ye have any word of exhortation for the people, say on.”
Then Paul stood up, and spoke, preaching Christ to them.

“And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, [the Gentiles besought]
that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.”

Now since Paul was preaching “the grace of God” (verse 43),
here was his opportunity to straighten out these Gentiles,
and explain that the Sabbath was done away.

Why should he wait a whole week, in order to preach to the Gentiles
on the next Sabbath? If the day had now been changed to Sunday,
why did not Paul tell them they would not have to wait a week, but
the very next day, Sunday, was the proper day for this service?

But notice what Paul did.

“And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.”

Here Paul waited a whole week, passing up a Sunday,
in order to preach to the Gentiles that besought teaching, on the Sabbath day.
you seem not to see the wisdom of Paul here do you, Paul has received something new(unprecedented) and he knew just how careful he had to be in introducing them to the new revelation. He was well aware of the fact that to introduce someone to something radically may cause them to reject what he brought. so he had to have his meetings on Sabbath. he also understood that many people were free on Sabbath to listen to his teachings. and also one of Paul's method of presenting the the revelation of the gospel was, i paraphrase, "becoming all things to all men that i may win Christ".
 
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1. Paul was a Pharisee. A teacher of God's law. He continued to
call himself a Pharisee even after joining the church.

(Acts 23:6) Then Paul, knowing that some of them were Sadducees and the others Pharisees,
called out in the Sanhedrin, "My brothers, I am a Pharisee, descended from Pharisees.
I stand on trial because of the hope of the resurrection of the dead."

2. Paul loved God's law. It was a delight to him.

(Romans 7:22) For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being,


3. Paul called God's law holy.

(Romans 7:12) So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy,
righteous and good.


4. Paul knew that breaking God's law is the very definition of sin.

(1 John 3:4) Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law:
for sin is the transgression of the law.

5. Paul said that we don't nullify the law of God by our faith in Jesus Christ.

(Romans 3:31) Do we nullify the law by this faith? By no means!
Rather we uphold the law.

6. Paul often read from the scriptures on the sabbath (which is kept by the apostles 84
times in the book of Acts). And the only scriptures at that time was the old testament.

(Acts 17:2) As was his custom, Paul went into the synagogue,
and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures.

7. Paul was accused of forsaking the law of Moses when he first joined the church.
(And ironically, he's still being accused today.)

(Act 21:21) They have been informed that you teach all the Jews who live among
the Gentiles to turn away from Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children
or live according to our customs.


8. These accusations were shown to be false.

(Acts 21:21) Take these men, join in their purification rites and pay their expenses,
so that they can have their heads shaved. Then everyone will know there is no truth
in these reports about you, but that you yourself are living in obedience to the law.


9. When Paul was accused of forsaking the law of Moses, he always denied this,
and said he does live according to the law.

(Acts 24:14) But this I confess to you, that according to the Way, which they call
a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the Law
and written in the Prophets,


10. Paul said that those who refuse to submit to the law are "carnal minded"
and hostile to God.

(Romans 8:7-8) The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit
to God's law, nor can it do so. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.


11. Paul continued to travel to Jerusalem to celebrate God's feast days
after joining the church.

(Acts 18:21) But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that
cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God will. And he sailed from Ephesus.


12. Paul often quoted from Moses's writings, and cited it as authority.

(1 Corinthians 9:9-10) Do I say this merely on human authority?
Doesn’t the Law say the same thing? For it is written in the Law of Moses:
“Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.” Is it about oxen that God
is concerned? Surely he says this for us, doesn’t he? Yes, this was written for us,
because whoever plows and threshes should be able to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest.


13. Paul claimed that ALL scripture is good for instruction in righteousness,
and given through inspiration of God. He never singled out Moses' writings.

(2 Timothy 3:16) All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
correcting and training in righteousness,


14. Paul mentions that the levitical priests are still offering sacrifices to God
even after Christ's death on the cross.

(Hebrews 8:3-4) Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices,
and so it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer.

If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests
who offer the gifts prescribed by the law.


15. The most well known teaching in Paul's letters is the one where he says
"you are not under law but under grace".

Millions of people quote this scripture, they almost always leave out the scripture
that immediately follows it. Watch what happens when you add the context....

(Romans 6:14-16) For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under
the law, but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law
but under grace? By no means! Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to
someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey--whether you are
slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?


16. Paul told the Colossians not to let anyone judge them because they were observing
God's sabbaths and feasts because these appointed times are "a shadow of things to come".

Meaning they reveal future events, just like the passover foreshadowed Christ's
sacrifice on the cross.(Colossians 2:16-17)


17. Paul never repremanded anyone for obeying God's law. Instead, he repremanded
new gentile converts, the Galatians, who were trying to be justified by the law,
instead of faith in Jesus Christ.

(Galatians 2:16) Know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith
in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by
faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.

18. The Galatians, who Paul was repremanding for trying to be justified by the law,
were going back to serving other gods after they were circumcised. This is why Paul
had to explain that the works of the law can't earn your salvation.

(Galatians 4: 8-11) Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those
who by nature are not gods. But now that you know God—or rather are known by God
—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable forces? Do you wish
to be enslaved by them all over again? 10 You are observing special days and months
and seasons and years! I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you.

19. Paul understood that obedience to God's law is a natural result of salvation.
Once you become a true christian, God writes His law on your heart and mind,
and causes you to walk in them.

(Hebrews 10:16) "This is the covenant I will make with them after that time,
says the Lord. I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds."

20. Paul's letters come with a warning label attached to them.

(2 Peter 3:16-17) He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these
matters.His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant
and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you
may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.

you seem not to see the wisdom of Paul here do you, Paul has received something new(unprecedented) and he knew just how careful he had to be in introducing them to the new revelation. He was well aware of the fact that to introduce someone to something radically may cause them to reject what he brought. so he had to have his meetings on Sabbath. he also understood that many people were free on Sabbath to listen to his teachings. and also one of Paul's method of presenting the the revelation of the gospel was, i paraphrase, "becoming all things to all men that i may win Christ".
it is so crazy to look at the beginning of Paul's life as a believer in Acts, to point to the fact that he obeyed the law. pls i would advice that you study the latter part of Paul's ministry and teaching. remember that the revelation Christ gave to Paul was progressive. when Christ met him in Acts 9, he said he would be showing in things as time went on!!!
 
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that is what everyone tries to say,
but that is [not] what that verse says.
the jews where not even there when Paul said that

“And when [the Jews were gone out of the synagogue], the Gentiles besought
that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.”
Exactly so ! In their hatred and rejection of Jews and the Sabbath christians miss the 'details in scripture and cut themselves off from the UNITY IN CHRIST !!!

The reason God chose a certain DAY as holy and sanctified is that it is a 'rock' in His creation that can not be moved....no matter how hard people try. Either 'disobedient' people will 'stumble,fall and be broken-or it will fall on them and grind them to powder. There is no moving a day in the week as some are trying to do and have done. The consequences are clear for those who can see !!!
Even if they claim Jesus as their Rock and their Sabbath, HE can NOT be moved to another day....those who do end up with a fictitious copy !