some things from paul that many omit

[willybob]

If you wish to know why read some joseph prince teachings and you will understand the power of a false doctrine in the mind. But that being said, dont let it bother you when people disagree with the Word, pray that God will open eyes and hearts and speak truth according to the word. we scatter seeds, God makes them Grow, we plant the word and the condition of the soil may not be prepared as of yet. some people are where i was years ago, and where yu were at your worst whatever that may have been. God is patient and you never Know what kind of struggle someone is having, or what God is currently doing in thier lives to prepare thier hearts for planting.

just my own thoughts for you, and i agree with much of what you have said, remember the goal and that Gods word is for salvation

Salvation can only come by way of the TRUTH, no other way is possible..Im not coming against you but I think you are lacking in your understanding as to what biblical righteous means among men....I do not judge these men but rather their doctrine..Paul said to judge all things and prove ll things..Jesus said to judge not hypocritical judgement...I condemn no one..They themselves are their our accusers, thus condemning themselves proclaiming to be sinners, and its not possible they can be made perfect...Go back and study DILEGENTLY what biblical righteousness means. Hint; it doesn't mean as perfect as God, but rather moral uprightness and obedience from the heart according to the amount of knowledge give......God said He delivered Daniel because of is own righteousness, He also said the same about Job....

 

[willybob]

excuse my misspell...The themselves are their own accusers.....

Jesus said go and sin no more to a women who was engaged in the vile sins of the flesh, not sins of ignorance. Although, according to the law of Moses they were supposed to have the man also in order to have a lawful case. Howevr she didn't deny it to Jesus.

Anyway, Jesus says go and sin no more. They say you can't, which equates to go and sin some more..That is exactly what the father of "faith alone" Martin Luther said..He said you must sin more and more to get back at the devil...Now granted these men don't go nearly that far, but they imply that Jesus commands are impossible> But Jesus said His commandments are not GREIVIOUS..Why do they think there so grievous? Because the flesh desires and addictions love sins, that's why they must be crucified in repentance coming clean with God and fit for the Masters use.......The holy Ghost cannot dwell in an unclean vessel..bible 101.

Jesus is the word (logos) made flesh. He is 100% LOGICAL in ALL of His thoughts. Sin is completely illogical. He said "go and sin no more" the logical conclusion of the matter like Solomon said is to obey God and keep His commandments for this is your whole purpose in life. By keeping Jesus commandments from a sincere and pure heart we fufill the two greatest commandments love God and love thy neighbour..Sin is hatefulness to God and neighbour... if it were not possible to obey Him it would be completely illogical for Jesus to say "go and sin no more"...Think about it He is the logos and completely logical...

 

[willybob]

It is very true none live their lives without sin.
But we grow up to have the opportunity of communion with God and forgiveness.
In this state of adulthood and communion with God, where any of Gods heroes not righteous?

I get the feeling some hate the designation of righteous because in their mind they judge as
hypocrites.

show me in scripture wear Job, Daniel, Joseph, Hanah, Abel, Deborah, Jeremiah, Ezra, Mary, committed wilful sins that Paul said would disqualify one from the kingdom. I don't think you can...Their hearts were pure towards God. Even Joseph from the age of 17 around the time of the age accountability never sinned..You underscore your whole message Peter and make it of none effect.. No sense in preaching holiness if men can not repent and be holy..Jesus, the perfect logical mind of God, (the logos) said "go and sin no more", and your illogical thoughts say we cant do that....for some strange reason all of you are scared to death it seems to list the type sins you are speaking of, so I just assume you mean the vile sins of the flesh, I hope I'm wrong. If so, please inform me, I would be pleased to know I'm wrong...

 

[PeterJens]

show me in scripture wear Job, Daniel, Joseph, Hanah, Abel, Deborah, Jeremiah, Ezra, Mary, committed wilful sins that Paul said would disqualify one from the kingdom. I don't think you can...Their hearts were pure towards God. Even Joseph from the age of 17 around the time of the age accountability never sinned..You underscore your whole message Peter and make it of none effect.. No sense in preaching holiness if men can not repent and be holy..Jesus, the perfect logical mind of God, (the logos) said "go and sin no more", and your illogical thoughts say we cant do that....for some strange reason all of you are scared to death it seems to list the type sins you are speaking of, so I just assume you mean the vile sins of the flesh, I hope I'm wrong. If so, please inform me, I would be pleased to know I'm wrong...

I do not think to prove your point we have to show the sins of every individual.

It seems you assume people are sinless. Scripture indicates rather than being sinless
through sacrifices and repentance people can find forgiveness with God.

Now most sins we would talk about are theft, or lying, or coveting objects, or dishonouring
God, or dishonouring our parents. These are all simple things to do.

Most people are not scared about talking about sins but rather they do not understand the
differences you are referring to.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Do you think I'm so stupid that you can pool 6 words out of context to go against the whole council of God and it will get past me? You didn't even include the first three words of the verse. Shame on you.

You are a foolish, foolish man sir, VERY foolish indeed ..Paul said
“IT IS WRITTEN there is none good”..Do you even have the slightest clue what he was drawing from in the OT..Let me educate you if your foolish heart is not harden to the point of receiving anything from the word. Others can read this whose hearts are open and see the UTTER FOOLISHNESS of the “none good no not one cleche” taken completely out of context and dipped in euphoria to sooth the consciences of carnal Christians.. You say that Able was unrighteous when God said he in fact was righteous…..Are you a liar or is God lying??? You know, Paul blinded Elimas for a season for blocking other new borns from coming to the true gospel..
Romans 3, (there is none good not one)? What is Paul referencing from the OT?

Every single PASSAGE Paul was quoting from in the old testament the wicked were CONTRASTED against the righteous.. I ask you: why by your own words do you always number yourself among the wicked…You sir are like a foolish man drawing to an inside straight when his opponet already has a full house..

Romans 3
1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. 5 But if our unrighteousness (the Jews as a nation, Isaiah 64) commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man) 6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?

7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner? 8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just. 9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; (the Jewish nation and the Gentile nations, not individuals per say) An example of this is found in Isaiah 64. Whereas the righteous prophet Isaiah was speaking to a wicked and perverse nation, Israel. In that all of her righteousness was as filthy rags fading away in their iniquities).

10 As it is written, (Paul is drawing from the OT) There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

In examining Paul's declarations to the Romans in chapter 3, let's use two OT examples, Joseph and Hanna, and see if their works are being referenced by Paul. Or could it be that Paul is speaking about other kinds of people? Possibly the wicked and not the righteous? Joseph and Hanna are but two of the many righteous men/women in the OT, I contend that Paul is not speaking of the righteous in verses 10-18 in Romans 3. But rather Paul is referencing the wicked in Psalms 14, 53, 5, 140, 10, 36 and Proverbs 1-16, 16-8, and Isaiah 59-7,8

Psalms 14-1, the wicked who say there is no God. Psalms 53-1 the wicked who are corrupt and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. None of the wicked do good. Not in any of these verses in which Paul quotes from is he referring to the righteous. Like all chapters, and in both of these occasions, the righteous are always separated from the wicked. Would these OT quotes be speaking about the likes of Joseph, or Hanna etc? Absolutely not! These two Psalms are speaking about the fools who believe not God and the wicked that obey not God. If both Psalms are examined carefully we can find the wicked spoken of in contrast to the righteous. So, in drawing from these two Psalms, Paul is most defiantly speaking of the unrighteous, not the righteous. Therefore types like Joseph and Hanna cannot be who Paul is referencing when he says "There is none righteous, no, not one".

Romans 3- 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

Psalm 53-3, 5-9, 140-3 in NONE of the quotes by Paul is David speaking of the righteous. But rather the wicked, when they are conceived of Satan, that go astray, venturing out from his influential womb (Mystery Babylon, his church), doing his bidding and speaking his lies, (when he speaks a lie he speaketh of "his own" John 8-44).Does this sound like Joseph and Hanna? Nay, may God forbid such slanders upon the righteous and worthy! They use this false teaching to promote the Luther/Calvin lie of total depravity. I ask: Can we place Joseph and Hanna in this same category too? No!!!

but two of the many righteous men/women in the OT, I contend that Paul is not speaking of the righteous in verses 10-18 in Romans 3. But rather Paul is referencing the wicked in Psalms 14, 53, 5, 140, 10, 36 and Proverbs 1-16, 16-8, and Isaiah 59-7,8

Psalms 14-1, the wicked who say there is no God. Psalms 53-1 the wicked who are corrupt and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. None of the wicked do good. Not in any of these verses in which Paul quotes from is he referring to the righteous. Like all chapters, and in both of these occasions, the righteous are always separated from the wicked. Would these OT quotes be speaking about the likes of Joseph, or Hanna etc? Absolutely not! These two Psalms are speaking about the fools who believe not God and the wicked that obey not God. If both Psalms are examined carefully we can find the wicked spoken of in contrast to the righteous. So, in drawing from these two Psalms, Paul is most defiantly speaking of the unrighteous, not the righteous. Therefore types like Joseph and Hanna cannot be who Paul is referencing when he says "There is none righteous, no, not one".
Romans 3- 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. 13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

Psalm 53-3, 5-9, 140-3 in NONE of the quotes by Paul is David speaking of the righteous. But rather the wicked, when they are conceived of Satan, that go astray, venturing out from his influential womb (Mystery Babylon, his church), doing his bidding and speaking his lies, (when he speaks a lie he speaketh of "his own" John 8-44).Does this sound like Joseph and Hanna? Nay, may God forbid such slanders upon the righteous and worthy! They use this false teaching to promote the Luther/Calvin lie of total depravity. I ask: Can we place Joseph and Hanna in this same category too? No!!!

14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:


Psalm 10-7 In this chapter it speaks of the wicked in their pride that persecute the righteous with curses of bitterness out of their mouths of which the apostle James warns against in chapter 3. Do we ever find Joseph and Hanna or Job speaking such things? No!

15 Their feet are swift to shed blood: 16 Destruction and misery are in their ways: 17 And the way of peace have they not known:

Here Paul is drawing in generalities from Proverbs 1-16, 16-8, and Isaiah 59-7,8. In all three chapters it is speaking of a heart that devises evil schemes and the wicked deeds that they madly scurry after. Their feet rush into battle. This sounds more like the wicked deeds of King Saul, and not Joseph and Hanna.

18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

Psalm 36-1 David has a message from God in his heart concerning the sinfulness of the wicked because there is no fear of God before their eyes. Did Joseph and Hanna have the fear of the Lord? Yes!!!


So, in brief, listed here is a concise reference of whom the apostle Paul is speaking about in verses 10-18. Sadly, not only do the Pundits claim that all of mankind is wicked, but they even apply this to those after conversion as well by falsely parroting "if we say we have no continuous sin in us we are liars the truth is not in us". Somehow overlooking such people as Nathaniel, Cornelius, and Lydia in the NT.

1. You educate me?? lol ok. thats a good one.
2. There are non righteous no not one, Yes it was a quote in the OT and it still stands. No one can do good UNTIL they get saved. that is a fact, If you think a person who is not born of god can do the righteousness of God, you are in serious trouble.
3. The OT also said that our works are as bloody rags, this is what God thinks of our righteousness..
4. Paul also said for all have sinned and fall short of Gods glory.. ie, all men have fallen short of Gods standard, Thus ALL MEN ARE WICKED.
5. In adam all die. That means plainly, ALL MANKIND IS WICKED, the things of God are foolish to those who are not his, How can one do the things of God when they are foolish to him?

so please. do not come in here saying your going to educate people when you are one who needs educated yourself.

Until you learn how wicked you are apart from the grace of God You can not educate anyone.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

alrighty so i guess Gods warnings just arent for you.

THEY ARE NOT FOR THE SAVED, THEY ARE FOR THE UNSAVED

A person who is SAVED will not be going to hell.. if he can still go to hell. HE IS NOT SAVED.

It is not that hard, why do you all make things so difficult.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

God told Cain he could do it, those that argue in favour of sin say you can't....They can study day and night and get the highest achievement degrees, the athletes practice 15 hours a day to finish the first and the best, etc. etc..Some of them gain the highest achievements in the military:::but when it come to obeying God and overcoming sin they somehow cant achieve a mark higher than a foot stool? How did Job do it and they cant...God said Job was righteous and they say none can be righteous....Making ones own version of what it right apart from the word are the ones that are self-righteous...They take the plain righteousness of God's word and turn it into a lie, that's self-righteousness, no?...Ill touch further on this concept shortly..

ok, now your just like your fellow mates who love to slander people.. Of course cain could have done it, I as much as said so.

CAIN REFUSED TO DO IT, why? HE REFUSED TO HAVE FAIHT IN GOD..

as with all men, no matter how wicked they are, they have the chance to repent and come to Christ, By doing so, THEY CAN DO GOOD WORKS..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The next out of context stronghold their gonna throw my way is "all our works is filthy rags"... go ahead I'm waiting

I know all their strongholds>>> If we say we have no sin we are liars and the truth is not in us, their is no good no not one, all is filthy rags, the flesh wareth against the Spirit, and Paul the chief of sinners mantra....They pull all this stuff out of context, but the truth is; once it is weighed in the balance of the full weight of scripture their little cliches' are found wanting....

Their whole bible of half verses and half truths amounts to about 3 pages, and like Calvin and Luther they leave out the other 1500 pages...

We know all your strongholds too.. You are a legalist trying to earn your way to heaven..

Good luck with that, As for me an my household we will serve and continue to have faiht in god. not our works.

 

[PeterJens]

THEY ARE NOT FOR THE SAVED, THEY ARE FOR THE UNSAVED

A person who is SAVED will not be going to hell.. if he can still go to hell. HE IS NOT SAVED.

It is not that hard, why do you all make things so difficult.

This approach seems to deny Gods messages.

“My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline,
and do not lose heart when he rebukes you,
6 because the Lord disciplines the one he loves,
and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son.”
Heb 12:5-6

If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.
Rev 2:5

Though I did regret it—I see that my letter hurt you, but only for a little while— 9 yet now I am happy, not because you were made sorry, but because your sorrow led you to repentance. For you became sorrowful as God intended and so were not harmed in any way by us.
2 cor 7:8-9

The Lord corrects His people and warns them, especially if it is leading to
failure of their faith.

But if you believe you can never fail, then obviously warnings are irrelevent,
which is odd because God sends messages to His people all the time.

 

[Hizikyah]

Mat 7:21-27, “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,’ shall enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of My Father in the heavens. Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?’ And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’” Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does them, shall be like a wise man who built his house on the rock, and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock. And everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does not do them, shall be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand, and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat on that house, and it fell, and great was its fall.”

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Mat 7:21-27, “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,’ shall enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of My Father in the heavens. Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?’ And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!’” Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does them, shall be like a wise man who built his house on the rock, and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock. And everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does not do them, shall be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand, and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat on that house, and it fell, and great was its fall.”

I think people forget to highlight the part I highlighted. (not saying you did, I just want to highlight this part)

These people here are not people who KNEW they were sinners the moment they stood in front of God and had no excuse. these were people who declaired to be Gods children. Who did what they THOUGHT were mighty works for God. They could not understand how God was condemning them, they thought they were in (I believe pharisees will be part of those who say this in fact I believe this is who Jesus was speaking to)

What was Jesus answer? I NEVER KNEW YOU..

Sadly there are many people walking the earth today, and going through the doors of church who this pertains to. People who think by all their mighty works, they are saved, Yet who have never met Jesus face to face and continue to practice unrighteousness

which also goes to continue to prove, one can be morally good in our eyes, yet in Gods eyes, have broken the law. and are seen as sinners.

 

[PeterJens]

Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test? 6 And I trust that you will discover that we have not failed the test.
2 cor 13:5-6

We need always to test ourselves see that the love of Christ dwells in us.

 

[Grace777x70]

Being "in the faith" is simply being "in Christ". Those that have received the abundance of grace and the gift of His righteousness are " in the faith" and are "in Christ".

Ephesians 1:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7[/SUP] In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace

 

[Hizikyah]

I think people forget to highlight the part I highlighted. (not saying you did, I just want to highlight this part)

These people here are not people who KNEW they were sinners the moment they stood in front of God and had no excuse. these were people who declaired to be Gods children. Who did what they THOUGHT were mighty works for God. They could not understand how God was condemning them, they thought they were in (I believe pharisees will be part of those who say this in fact I believe this is who Jesus was speaking to)

What was Jesus answer? I NEVER KNEW YOU..

Sadly there are many people walking the earth today, and going through the doors of church who this pertains to. People who think by all their mighty works, they are saved, Yet who have never met Jesus face to face and continue to practice unrighteousness

which also goes to continue to prove, one can be morally good in our eyes, yet in Gods eyes, have broken the law. and are seen as sinners.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Yes the entire passage is important, none of it can be removed.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]When He says: "Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Is He talking to Atheists? Muslims? Scientologists? Buddhists? Or is He talking to those who follows Him or believe they follow Him? He is talking to Christians, Messianic Jews, and anyone who follows Him or believes they follow Him.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]But if we keep reading, Yahshua gives us an exact reason why these people don’t enter;[/FONT]


“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]This is the reason some think they will enter… Yet the reason why they will not enter is PLAINLY WRITTEN; “then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]So to ignore the explicit reason given for His rejecting of these spoken of is just as much an error if not more than ignoring why people think they should enter…[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]What is more important, one’s claim of why they are innocent to the judge or the judge’s reason for them being found guilty?[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Many choose their own acceptable path, the only path acceptable to Yah is the one He chooses;[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 12:2, "And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you prove what is that good and well-pleasing and perfect desire of Yah."[/FONT]

 

[FreeNChrist]

Yes the entire passage is important, none of it can be removed.


When He says: "Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?”


Is He talking to Atheists? Muslims? Scientologists? Buddhists? Or is He talking to those who follows Him or believe they follow Him? He is talking to Christians, Messianic Jews, and anyone who follows Him or believes they follow Him.


But if we keep reading, Yahshua gives us an exact reason why these people don’t enter;


“Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?”


This is the reason some think they will enter… Yet the reason why they will not enter is PLAINLY WRITTEN; “then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!”


So to ignore the explicit reason given for His rejecting of these spoken of is just as much an error if not more than ignoring why people think they should enter…


What is more important, one’s claim of why they are innocent to the judge or the judge’s reason for them being found guilty?


Many choose their own acceptable path, the only path acceptable to Yah is the one He chooses;


Romans 12:2, "And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you prove what is that good and well-pleasing and perfect desire of Yah."

They were those who were not trusting in Jesus and what He had done. They were trusting in what they had done, their works. Which is lawlessness.

 

[Hizikyah]

They were those who were not trusting in Jesus and what He had done. They were trusting in what they had done, their works. Which is lawlessness.

John/Yahanan 14:23, "Yahshua answered, and said to him: If a man loves Me, he will keep My teachings and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him."

 

[FreeNChrist]

John/Yahanan 14:23, "Yahshua answered, and said to him: If a man loves Me, he will keep My teachings and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him."

Teachings which are useless and even dangerous to those who do not understand what they mean.

 

[followjesus]

Yes the entire passage is important, none of it can be removed.


When He says: "Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?”


Is He talking to Atheists? Muslims? Scientologists? Buddhists? Or is He talking to those who follows Him or believe they follow Him? He is talking to Christians, Messianic Jews, and anyone who follows Him or believes they follow Him.


But if we keep reading, Yahshua gives us an exact reason why these people don’t enter;


“Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?”


This is the reason some think they will enter… Yet the reason why they will not enter is PLAINLY WRITTEN; “then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!”


So to ignore the explicit reason given for His rejecting of these spoken of is just as much an error if not more than ignoring why people think they should enter…


What is more important, one’s claim of why they are innocent to the judge or the judge’s reason for them being found guilty?


Many choose their own acceptable path, the only path acceptable to Yah is the one He chooses;


Romans 12:2, "And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you prove what is that good and well-pleasing and perfect desire of Yah."

"Yes the entire passage is important, none of it can be removed."

Amen, we cant remove or make unimportant any of His words. in truth it doesnt matter who is spoken to, it matter who is speaking because there is no favoritism or respect of persons with Jesus Christ. His word is far any and all who believe that He is the Christ, the Son of God. They were prophesying in his name which is pretty conclusive they believed. if we look at this passage along with the rest of what He said concerning this there is a more complete understanding

matt 7:21-23 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Matt 25:31-46 "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the KINGDOM prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35For I was an hungred, and YE GAVE ME meat: I was thirsty, and YE GAVE ME drink: I was a stranger, and YE TOOK ME IN: 36Naked, and YE CLOTHED ME: I was sick, and YE VISITED ME: I was in prison, and YE CAME UNTO ME. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as YE HAVE DONE IT unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, DEPART FROM ME, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me NO meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me NO drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me NOT in: naked, and ye clothed me NOT: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me NOT. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye DID IT NOT to one of the least of these, ye did itnot to ME. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."


The difference isnt that they beleived, it is whether they Loved the least among them. its easy to say i love everyone But Love is action. Those who inherit eternal Life are those who acted in Love toward those who need to be Loved the most. Those who are cast away are those who did not Love those who needed to be Loved.

if we then consider ch 7s next passage we find " to hear and do His teachings is to be wise and have a foundation, to hear His teachings and not apply them is foolishness and leads to destruction ( matt 7:24-27) belief has to be sincere if it is then the action will be there and that very much has implications regarding eternal Life. to claim belief yet act in unbelief will condemn.

 

[Hizikyah]

to hear and do His teachings is to be wise and have a foundation, to hear His teachings and not apply them is foolishness and leads to destruction ( matt 7:24-27) belief has to be sincere if it is then the action will be there and that very much has implications regarding eternal Life. to claim belief yet act in unbelief will condemn.

Thank you for this, entire post is great! and supremely thank Yah! PraiseYah!

Psalm 145:18, "יהוה is near to all who call upon Him, To all who call upon Him in truth."

 

[FreeNChrist]

"Yes the entire passage is important, none of it can be removed."

Amen, we cant remove or make unimportant any of His words. in truth it doesnt matter who is spoken to, it matter who is speaking because there is no favoritism or respect of persons with Jesus Christ. His word is far any and all who believe that He is the Christ, the Son of God. They were prophesying in his name which is pretty conclusive they believed. if we look at this passage along with the rest of what He said concerning this there is a more complete understanding

matt 7:21-23 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Matt 25:31-46 "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the KINGDOM prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35For I was an hungred, and YE GAVE ME meat: I was thirsty, and YE GAVE ME drink: I was a stranger, and YE TOOK ME IN: 36Naked, and YE CLOTHED ME: I was sick, and YE VISITED ME: I was in prison, and YE CAME UNTO ME. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as YE HAVE DONE IT unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, DEPART FROM ME, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me NO meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me NO drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me NOT in: naked, and ye clothed me NOT: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me NOT. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye DID IT NOT to one of the least of these, ye did itnot to ME. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."


The difference isnt that they beleived, it is whether they Loved the least among them. its easy to say i love everyone But Love is action. Those who inherit eternal Life are those who acted in Love toward those who need to be Loved the most. Those who are cast away are those who did not Love those who needed to be Loved.

if we then consider ch 7s next passage we find " to hear and do His teachings is to be wise and have a foundation, to hear His teachings and not apply them is foolishness and leads to destruction ( matt 7:24-27) belief has to be sincere if it is then the action will be there and that very much has implications regarding eternal Life. to claim belief yet act in unbelief will condemn.

Believers Jesus never knew?? Not a chance.