some things from paul that many omit

[followjesus]

THEY ARE NOT FOR THE SAVED, THEY ARE FOR THE UNSAVED

A person who is SAVED will not be going to hell.. if he can still go to hell. HE IS NOT SAVED.

It is not that hard, why do you all make things so difficult.

So when you were a kid, and you Dad warned you to not play in the busy street.....that doesnt apply to you?

you are looking at it backwards. Gods word is for believers not unbeleivers. unbelievers are already condemned, believers follow Gods word because they believe. to ignore the things you dont want to hear doesnt change what is said. You are saved through belief because a believer will believe what is there not decide what applies to them.

God isnt making up arbitrary rules and we need to jump through His senseless hoops. those warnings are for Hois children to Keep them safe unless of course we dont believe them. Gods commandments and many warnings are for safe keeping of His children, repentance is a good thing and we should be glad that God warns us. sin is death always has and will be, that why Jesus came to call to repentance. Believing His warnings will save, believing His words of comfort will save we dont exclude Gods word because it requires obedience and label it self righteousness.

That is kind of like teaching your kids " you are not allowed to drink the bleach under the sink it will kill you" then you leave them with a babysitter who grabs the bleach and says " Go ahead and drink this it wont hurt you" Gods word is all true not just what sounds nice to us. The things we dont want to hear like " repent" are the very things we need to embrace and submit to. belief saves because it is sincere. and as any Good father we give our children boundaries that keep them safe not to dictate, but to keep safe. That How Gods word is.

 

[Grandpa]

Teachings which are useless and even dangerous to those who do not understand what they mean.

People are focused on what they can do. Because that is what they understand. Do good to get good. If your good outweighs your bad you should be in. That is the carnal understanding. The stubborn philosophy.

But we know the single most important teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ. And that is to come to Him to receive Rest. Without Him there is no Holy Spirit, there is no understanding, there is no wisdom, there is no Salvation.

When we come to Christ we are taught by a new teacher. No longer is it the law that teaches us. It is the Holy Spirit that teaches us. And the most important of those teachings is to put away the philosophy and carnal teaching of men that rely on their own work for righteousness and salvation.

That is what Paul is saying when he asks the Galatians why they have turned again to the weak and beggarly elements. He doesn't mean that the law itself is weak and beggarly. He means your understanding and subsequent work at it is what is weak and beggarly.

That's why the Lord Jesus was so harsh with the Pharisees. Because they thought their salvation and righteousness was in their work at law keeping. They had it backward. The cause of our Salvation and Righteousness is what keeps the law...

 

[followjesus]

Thank you for this, entire post is great! and supremely thank Yah! PraiseYah!

Psalm 145:18, "יהוה is near to all who call upon Him, To all who call upon Him in truth."

thank you also my friend for the many great things you share and thank God always !!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yes the entire passage is important, none of it can be removed.


When He says: "Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?”


Is He talking to Atheists? Muslims? Scientologists? Buddhists? Or is He talking to those who follows Him or believe they follow Him? He is talking to Christians, Messianic Jews, and anyone who follows Him or believes they follow Him.


But if we keep reading, Yahshua gives us an exact reason why these people don’t enter;


“Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?”


This is the reason some think they will enter… Yet the reason why they will not enter is PLAINLY WRITTEN; “then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!”


So to ignore the explicit reason given for His rejecting of these spoken of is just as much an error if not more than ignoring why people think they should enter…


What is more important, one’s claim of why they are innocent to the judge or the judge’s reason for them being found guilty?

We see it different. They practice unrighteousness in my view because they have never been saved, Even though they think they have. They practiced human good, not divine good.

If they were condemned because of sin, Then we would all be in the same boat. Because we all have sinned and fall short.

Many choose their own acceptable path, the only path acceptable to Yah is the one He chooses;

Agreed.. And it is not because we are obedient,, It is because we have faith in Jesus. (I assume that is what you mean by Yah)

Romans 12:2, "And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you prove what is that good and well-pleasing and perfect desire of Yah."

This is written to believers, not the unsaved, The unsaved can not do these things, that is why although they may appear on the outside to be doing them (playing church) all they can do is practice unrighteousness (human good)

 

[followjesus]

People are focused on what they can do. Because that is what they understand. Do good to get good. If your good outweighs your bad you should be in. That is the carnal understanding. The stubborn philosophy.

But we know the single most important teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ. And that is to come to Him to receive Rest. Without Him there is no Holy Spirit, there is no understanding, there is no wisdom, there is no Salvation.

When we come to Christ we are taught by a new teacher. No longer is it the law that teaches us. It is the Holy Spirit that teaches us. And the most important of those teachings is to put away the philosophy and carnal teaching of men that rely on their own work for righteousness and salvation.

That is what Paul is saying when he asks the Galatians why they have turned again to the weak and beggarly elements. He doesn't mean that the law itself is weak and beggarly. He means your understanding and subsequent work at it is what is weak and beggarly.

That's why the Lord Jesus was so harsh with the Pharisees. Because they thought their salvation and righteousness was in their work at law keeping. They had it backward. The cause of our Salvation and Righteousness is what keeps the law...

"People are focused on what they can do. Because that is what they understand. Do good to get good. If your good outweighs your bad you should be in. That is the carnal understanding. The stubborn philosophy."


read matthew 25 and believe that as well as romans 8:1. I understand what i understand because I believe What Jesus Christ taught His disciples.

matt.7:24-27 "Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, AND DOET THEM, I will liken him unto a WISE MAN, which built his house upon a rock: 25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and DOETH THEM NOT, shall be likened unto a FOOLISH MAN, which built his house upon the sand: 27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it."


is there a difference in the one who does what Jesus teaches, and those who do not? according to the Lord Himself? OF COURSE THERE IS. So to label a person who believes the way you have here is just a revelation of what the gog does to a persons mind. you have the words plainly of your Lord in front of you yet your point is exactly opposite of His, and you are calling the people who believe Him self righteous and stubborn ? Likening them to pharisees? the pharisees REFUSED TO BELIEVE JESUS. thats why He was harsh with them, He was never harsh on those Who accepted His words.

you should consider more what Jesus said, rather than what you have heard people say that He said. and ask yourself why doing the word is what He taught, yet you are totally against such things the Lord taught. very dangerous ground when " our gospel" contradicts Jesus.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

They were those who were not trusting in Jesus and what He had done. They were trusting in what they had done, their works. Which is lawlessness.

amen.

self righteous works is lawlessness..

All of those great deeds they had done, was all self righteousness.. Thats why God said he NEVER KNEW THEM.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

John/Yahanan 14:23, "Yahshua answered, and said to him: If a man loves Me, he will keep My teachings and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him."

so we are saved by doing Gods commands?

come on now.. Lets be honest. anyone who reads this would think this is what you are saying based on the context of what you were responding to.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

"Yes the entire passage is important, none of it can be removed."

Amen, we cant remove or make unimportant any of His words. in truth it doesnt matter who is spoken to, it matter who is speaking because there is no favoritism or respect of persons with Jesus Christ. His word is far any and all who believe that He is the Christ, the Son of God. They were prophesying in his name which is pretty conclusive they believed. if we look at this passage along with the rest of what He said concerning this there is a more complete understanding

matt 7:21-23 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Matt 25:31-46 "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the KINGDOM prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35For I was an hungred, and YE GAVE ME meat: I was thirsty, and YE GAVE ME drink: I was a stranger, and YE TOOK ME IN: 36Naked, and YE CLOTHED ME: I was sick, and YE VISITED ME: I was in prison, and YE CAME UNTO ME. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as YE HAVE DONE IT unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, DEPART FROM ME, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me NO meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me NO drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me NOT in: naked, and ye clothed me NOT: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me NOT. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye DID IT NOT to one of the least of these, ye did itnot to ME. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."


The difference isnt that they beleived, it is whether they Loved the least among them. its easy to say i love everyone But Love is action. Those who inherit eternal Life are those who acted in Love toward those who need to be Loved the most. Those who are cast away are those who did not Love those who needed to be Loved.

if we then consider ch 7s next passage we find " to hear and do His teachings is to be wise and have a foundation, to hear His teachings and not apply them is foolishness and leads to destruction ( matt 7:24-27) belief has to be sincere if it is then the action will be there and that very much has implications regarding eternal Life. to claim belief yet act in unbelief will condemn.

Amen, Non of it can be removed.

1. They had done what they thought were great works in jesus name
2. Jesus NEVER KNEW THEM (they were never saved in spite of all their good works)
3. They practiced unrighteousness (their so called "good deeds" were deeds of self righteousness not Gods righteousness. which a person who God has a personal relationship (who God knows) does)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So when you were a kid, and you Dad warned you to not play in the busy street.....that doesnt apply to you?

you are looking at it backwards. Gods word is for believers not unbeleivers. unbelievers are already condemned, believers follow Gods word because they believe. to ignore the things you dont want to hear doesnt change what is said. You are saved through belief because a believer will believe what is there not decide what applies to them.

God isnt making up arbitrary rules and we need to jump through His senseless hoops. those warnings are for Hois children to Keep them safe unless of course we dont believe them. Gods commandments and many warnings are for safe keeping of His children, repentance is a good thing and we should be glad that God warns us. sin is death always has and will be, that why Jesus came to call to repentance. Believing His warnings will save, believing His words of comfort will save we dont exclude Gods word because it requires obedience and label it self righteousness.

That is kind of like teaching your kids " you are not allowed to drink the bleach under the sink it will kill you" then you leave them with a babysitter who grabs the bleach and says " Go ahead and drink this it wont hurt you" Gods word is all true not just what sounds nice to us. The things we dont want to hear like " repent" are the very things we need to embrace and submit to. belief saves because it is sincere. and as any Good father we give our children boundaries that keep them safe not to dictate, but to keep safe. That How Gods word is.

No your wrong.

1. I was never promised I would never stub my toe while on this earth.
2. I am promised I will never fall under condemnation, even if I stub my toe

Hell fire and brinestone is a message for non believers, because that is where they are headed. Those saved, well as scripture says, there is no more condemnation, why? they believed in the name of the only begotten son of God.

Those condemned are condemned already, They were not once "not condemned", and fell back into condemnation (john 3)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

People are focused on what they can do. Because that is what they understand. Do good to get good. If your good outweighs your bad you should be in. That is the carnal understanding. The stubborn philosophy.

But we know the single most important teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ. And that is to come to Him to receive Rest. Without Him there is no Holy Spirit, there is no understanding, there is no wisdom, there is no Salvation.

When we come to Christ we are taught by a new teacher. No longer is it the law that teaches us. It is the Holy Spirit that teaches us. And the most important of those teachings is to put away the philosophy and carnal teaching of men that rely on their own work for righteousness and salvation.

That is what Paul is saying when he asks the Galatians why they have turned again to the weak and beggarly elements. He doesn't mean that the law itself is weak and beggarly. He means your understanding and subsequent work at it is what is weak and beggarly.

That's why the Lord Jesus was so harsh with the Pharisees. Because they thought their salvation and righteousness was in their work at law keeping. They had it backward. The cause of our Salvation and Righteousness is what keeps the law...

Sadly, Islam is using this very tactic to get people to commit murder by suicide, they find the ones who are right on the line of being not good enough. and tell them if they do this they will get an automatic pass to paradise.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

"People are focused on what they can do. Because that is what they understand. Do good to get good. If your good outweighs your bad you should be in. That is the carnal understanding. The stubborn philosophy."


read matthew 25 and believe that as well as romans 8:1. I understand what i understand because I believe What Jesus Christ taught His disciples.

matt.7:24-27 "Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, AND DOET THEM, I will liken him unto a WISE MAN, which built his house upon a rock: 25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and DOETH THEM NOT, shall be likened unto a FOOLISH MAN, which built his house upon the sand: 27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it."


is there a difference in the one who does what Jesus teaches, and those who do not? according to the Lord Himself? OF COURSE THERE IS. So to label a person who believes the way you have here is just a revelation of what the gog does to a persons mind. you have the words plainly of your Lord in front of you yet your point is exactly opposite of His, and you are calling the people who believe Him self righteous and stubborn ? Likening them to pharisees? the pharisees REFUSED TO BELIEVE JESUS. thats why He was harsh with them, He was never harsh on those Who accepted His words.

you should consider more what Jesus said, rather than what you have heard people say that He said. and ask yourself why doing the word is what He taught, yet you are totally against such things the Lord taught. very dangerous ground when " our gospel" contradicts Jesus.

what is the difference?

The person of God does not sin, because he has been born of God.. so that person obeyes God and does what he commands.

The person who has not been born of God sins, because he has never seen God or known him

That is why Jesus will tell them, I NEVER KNEW YOU..

we are not saved BECAUSE WE ARE GOOD AND OBEY,

we are good and obey BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN BORN OF GOD.

do you want to take credit for your good deeds, or give credit to God..

 

[Hizikyah]

so we are saved by doing Gods commands?

come on now.. Lets be honest. anyone who reads this would think this is what you are saying based on the context of what you were responding to.

The answer is in my signature;

 

[Desertsrose]

2 Peter 1:2,3
Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord; seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence.

I carry within me and you all who are in Christ do as well, His divine power to walk in holiness, purity and obedience because His power in us is always at work bearing fruit that comes with righteous living. Everything we need pertaining to life and Godliness is found in Jesus Christ our precious Lord and Savior.

So when I struggle, I always remember that I have everything I need to live as He has called me to live and He's always empowering me hour by hour, minute by minute to say no to sin and the temptations of the devil and to walk in newness of life. Putting off the old man and putting on the new.

And the times that I trip up, He's so gracious, loving and kind to allow me to confess my sin before Him. And then on top of that, He picks me up off the floor, dusts the dirt off of me, cleanses me and gets rid of all the ugliness of sin.

He repairs my robe of righteousness that I'm wearing and reminds me to not get it dirty again. But then the next time I blow it, I confess again and He forgives me and cleanses me again and I walk again in His bright white and shiny robe of righteousness He's clothes me in.

How can we not die to ourselves and carry our cross, and as He did despise its shame and follow Jesus with all our hearts. Praising God for His mercy and grace for each new day, His mercies are new every morning...........Great is His faithfulness!!!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The answer is in my signature;

so we are saved by doing gods commands?

People could take your signature different ways, can you please explain.

 

[Hizikyah]

so we are saved by doing gods commands?

People could take your signature different ways, can you please explain.

We are saved by Yah, by His plan and mercy, if we believe and do*, we will enter the kingdom.

Mt5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Rev21:1-2, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."

Rom3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law.

Rom331, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"

John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."

John/Yahanan 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."

*John/Yahanan 5:46-47, "For had you believed Mosheh, you would have believed Me, for he wrote about Me*. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"


*Mosheh wrote:

Deuteronomy 18:18-19, "I (YHWH) will raise up for them a Prophet (Yahshua/Jesus) like you from among their brothers, and I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. Whoever will not listen to My words, which He speaks in My Name, I will judge him for it"

"listen" is word #8085 - שָׁמַעshama` {shaw-mah'}

Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) - 1) to hear, listen to, obey

Faith without obedience is no faith at all according to the first and original definition and meaning of the Hebrew word faith...


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Hebrew 11:6, "For without the faith it is impossible to please Him; for he who comes to YHWH must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him."

Habakkuk 2:4, "Behold the proud, his soul is not right in him; but the just will live by the faith (H#530 faith/faithfulness)."

faith H#530 Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) firmness, fidelity, steadfastness, steadiness

faith H#530 Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
Feminine of H0529; literally firmness; figuratively security; moral fidelity:—faith (-ful, -ly, -ness, [man]), set office, stability, steady, truly, truth, verily.

Strong's (Hebrew & Chaldee Dictionary of the Old Testament) #530. אֱמוּנָה
emunah (53c); from 539; firmness, steadfastness, fidelity

Yaaqob 2:26, "For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so the faith without works is dead also."

Faith + no works = dead

Works + no faith = dead

John/Yahanan 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."

 

[FreeNChrist]

We are saved by Yah, by His plan and mercy, if we believe and do*, we will enter the kingdom.

Mt5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Rev21:1-2, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."

Rom3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law.

Rom331, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"

John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."

John/Yahanan 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."

*John/Yahanan 5:46-47, "For had you believed Mosheh, you would have believed Me, for he wrote about Me*. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"


*Mosheh wrote:

Deuteronomy 18:18-19, "I (YHWH) will raise up for them a Prophet (Yahshua/Jesus) like you from among their brothers, and I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. Whoever will not listen to My words, which He speaks in My Name, I will judge him for it"

"listen" is word #8085 - שָׁמַעshama` {shaw-mah'}

Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) - 1) to hear, listen to, obey

Faith without obedience is no faith at all according to the first and original definition and meaning of the Hebrew word faith...


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Hebrew 11:6, "For without the faith it is impossible to please Him; for he who comes to YHWH must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him."

Habakkuk 2:4, "Behold the proud, his soul is not right in him; but the just will live by the faith (H#530 faith/faithfulness)."

faith H#530 Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) firmness, fidelity, steadfastness, steadiness

faith H#530 Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
Feminine of H0529; literally firmness; figuratively security; moral fidelity:—faith (-ful, -ly, -ness, [man]), set office, stability, steady, truly, truth, verily.

Strong's (Hebrew & Chaldee Dictionary of the Old Testament) #530. אֱמוּנָה
emunah (53c); from 539; firmness, steadfastness, fidelity

Yaaqob 2:26, "For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so the faith without works is dead also."

Faith + no works = dead

Works + no faith = dead

John/Yahanan 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."

Believe AND do for salvation is do-do.

 

[Hizikyah]

James 2:26, "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so also the belief is dead without the works."

Believe AND do for salvation is do-do.

*John/Yahanan 5:46-47, "For had you believed Mosheh, you would have believed Me, for he wrote about Me*. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"


*Mosheh wrote:

Deuteronomy 18:18-19, "I (YHWH) will raise up for them a Prophet (Yahshua/Jesus) like you from among their brothers, and I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. Whoever will not listen to My words, which He speaks in My Name, I will judge him for it"

"listen" is word #8085 - שָׁמַעshama` {shaw-mah'}

Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) - 1) to hear, listen to, obey

James 2:14,
"14 My brothers, what use is it for anyone to say he has belief but does not have works? This belief is unable to save him.
"15, "And if a brother or sister is naked and in need of daily food,
"16, "but one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” but you do not give them the bodily needs, what use is it?
17, "So also belief, if it does not have works, is in itself dead.
18, "But someone might say, “You have belief, and I have works.” Show me your belief without your works, and I shall show you my belief by my works.
19, "You believe that Yah is one. You do well. The demons also believe – and shudder!
20, "But do you wish to know, O foolish man, that the belief without the works is dead?
21, "Was not Aḇraham our father declared right by works when he offered Yitsḥaq his son on the slaughter-place?
22, "Do you see that the belief was working with his works, and by the works the belief was perfected?
23, "And the Scripture was filled which says, “Aḇraham believed Yah, and it was reckoned to him for righteousness.” And He called him, “he who loves Yah.”
"24, "You see, then, that a man is declared right by works, and not by belief alone.
"25, "In the same way, was not Raḥaḇ the whore also declared right by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
"26, "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so also the belief is dead without the works."

 

[FreeNChrist]

James 2:26, "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so also the belief is dead without the works."



*John/Yahanan 5:46-47, "For had you believed Mosheh, you would have believed Me, for he wrote about Me*. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"


*Mosheh wrote:

Deuteronomy 18:18-19, "I (YHWH) will raise up for them a Prophet (Yahshua/Jesus) like you from among their brothers, and I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. Whoever will not listen to My words, which He speaks in My Name, I will judge him for it"

"listen" is word #8085 - שָׁמַעshama` {shaw-mah'}

Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) - 1) to hear, listen to, obey

James 2:14,
"14 My brothers, what use is it for anyone to say he has belief but does not have works? This belief is unable to save him.
"15, "And if a brother or sister is naked and in need of daily food,
"16, "but one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” but you do not give them the bodily needs, what use is it?
17, "So also belief, if it does not have works, is in itself dead.
18, "But someone might say, “You have belief, and I have works.” Show me your belief without your works, and I shall show you my belief by my works.
19, "You believe that Yah is one. You do well. The demons also believe – and shudder!
20, "But do you wish to know, O foolish man, that the belief without the works is dead?
21, "Was not Aḇraham our father declared right by works when he offered Yitsḥaq his son on the slaughter-place?
22, "Do you see that the belief was working with his works, and by the works the belief was perfected?
23, "And the Scripture was filled which says, “Aḇraham believed Yah, and it was reckoned to him for righteousness.” And He called him, “he who loves Yah.”
"24, "You see, then, that a man is declared right by works, and not by belief alone.
"25, "In the same way, was not Raḥaḇ the whore also declared right by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
"26, "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so also the belief is dead without the works."

"For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast." Eph. 2:8-9

 

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It is very interesting that in James's examples of faith "being made alive" by a work or a corresponding action. Both Rahab and Abraham each did a one time corresponding action to demonstrate their faith.

Abraham believed God and offered up Isaac on the alter. Rahab received the spies. Both one time events in their life - God calls this faith in action.


James 2:20-25 (NASB)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless?

[SUP]21 [/SUP] Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar?

[SUP]22[/SUP]You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected;

[SUP]23 [/SUP] and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "AND ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS," and he was called the friend of God.

[SUP]24 [/SUP] You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.

[SUP]25 [/SUP] In the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way?

Paul and James completely go together and do not cancel each other out.

We do the very same thing when we hear the message of Christ and we believe and then God seals us with the Holy Spirit. This is our faith with a corresponding action or a "work". Ephesians 1:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,

Jesus said to do the work of God was to believe in the Son.

Romans 10:8-10 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

[SUP]9 [/SUP] that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

[SUP]10[/SUP]for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

This is faith with corresponding action - or a work. This is how we are saved by grace through faith just like Paul said.

 

[valiant]

So when you were a kid, and you Dad warned you to not play in the busy street.....that doesnt apply to you?

But Dad was not going to kick me out of the family

you are looking at it backwards. Gods word is for believers not unbeleivers. unbelievers are already condemned, believers follow Gods word because they believe.

Paul wrote to churches made up of true believers and false 'believers'. His word was to ALL, separating the true from the false.

to ignore the things you dont want to hear doesnt change what is said. You are saved through belief because a believer will believe what is there not decide what applies to them.

But we believe because He brought His word home to our hearts. We are saved by GRACE through faith. Faith does not save us.
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God isnt making up arbitrary rules and we need to jump through His senseless hoops.

But it is GOD Who is saving us, and He will not fail.

those warnings are for His children to Keep them safe unless of course we dont believe them.

The warnings are to all, both possessors and professors, to distinguish the one from the other. Those who are His will suffer chastening, but He will remain faithful, He cannot deny Himself.

Gods commandments and many warnings are for safe keeping of His children,

and to separate the true from the false,

repentance is a good thing and we should be glad that God warns us.

Repentance is always a good thing,

sin is death always has and will be, that why Jesus came to call to repentance.

And that is why JESUS died, for us,

Believing His warnings will save, believing His words of comfort will save we dont exclude Gods word because it requires obedience and label it self righteousness.

His salvation comes to us before we believe His warnings, it was given to his own before the foundation of the world (Eph 1.). It is not something we can earn or deserve. If we trust in ourselves and OUR response to God for salvation that IS self-righteousness.

That is kind of like teaching your kids " you are not allowed to drink the bleach under the sink it will kill you" then you leave them with a babysitter who grabs the bleach and says " Go ahead and drink this it wont hurt you".

God NEVER leaves us with the baby sitter,

Gods word is all true not just what sounds nice to us.

Yes especially the parts where He promises never to allow us to finally fail.

The things we dont want to hear like " repent" are the very things we need to embrace and submit to. belief saves because it is sincere. and as any Good father we give our children boundaries that keep them safe not to dictate, but to keep safe. That How Gods word us.

and do you threaten to throw them out if they disobey? No, you chasten them and make them obey, just as our Father does with us. He promises to keep us until that day,