some things from paul that many omit

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Originally Posted by Hizikyah
James 2:26, "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so also the belief is dead without the works."



*John/Yahanan 5:46-47, "For had you believed Mosheh, you would have believed Me, for he wrote about Me*. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"


*Mosheh wrote:

Deuteronomy 18:18-19, "I (YHWH) will raise up for them a Prophet (Yahshua/Jesus) like you from among their brothers, and I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. Whoever will not listen to My words, which He speaks in My Name, I will judge him for it"

"listen" is word #8085 - שָׁמַעshama` {shaw-mah'}

Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) - 1) to hear, listen to, obey

James 2:14,
"14 My brothers, what use is it for anyone to say he has belief but does not have works? This belief is unable to save him.
"15, "And if a brother or sister is naked and in need of daily food,
"16, "but one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” but you do not give them the bodily needs, what use is it?
17, "So also belief, if it does not have works, is in itself dead.
18, "But someone might say, “You have belief, and I have works.” Show me your belief without your works, and I shall show you my belief by my works.
19, "You believe that Yah is one. You do well. The demons also believe – and shudder!
20, "But do you wish to know, O foolish man, that the belief without the works is dead?
21, "Was not Aḇraham our father declared right by works when he offered Yitsḥaq his son on the slaughter-place?
22, "Do you see that the belief was working with his works, and by the works the belief was perfected?
23, "And the Scripture was filled which says, “Aḇraham believed Yah, and it was reckoned to him for righteousness.” And He called him, “he who loves Yah.”
"24, "You see, then, that a man is declared right by works, and not by belief alone.
"25, "In the same way, was not Raḥaḇ the whore also declared right by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
"26, "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so also the belief is dead without the works."
True, it is NOT faith at all. Such people never had faith.
 
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1. You educate me?? lol ok. thats a good one.
2. There are non righteous no not one, Yes it was a quote in the OT and it still stands. No one can do good UNTIL they get saved. that is a fact, If you think a person who is not born of god can do the righteousness of God, you are in serious trouble.
3. The OT also said that our works are as bloody rags, this is what God thinks of our righteousness..
4. Paul also said for all have sinned and fall short of Gods glory.. ie, all men have fallen short of Gods standard, Thus ALL MEN ARE WICKED.
5. In adam all die. That means plainly, ALL MANKIND IS WICKED, the things of God are foolish to those who are not his, How can one do the things of God when they are foolish to him?

so please. do not come in here saying your going to educate people when you are one who needs educated yourself.

Until you learn how wicked you are apart from the grace of God You can not educate anyone.
like I said you number yourself among the wicked but the wicked and righteous are contrasted against each other on almost every page...All those things Paul pulled from the OT in Romans 3 there was a righteous group of people declared BY GOD Psalm 14 & 53 for example , yet you ignore the righteous and insist on numbering yourself with the wicked...

Granted, your nobody is perfect chant is true to the extent that no one is as perfect as God, I completely agree ,but we can at least be as perfect as Daniel who had no vile sins of the flesh don't ya think...Can we be as perfect as Daniel or Job was, or even Joseph? from the age of 17 compiled from 12 chapters in Gen...we cant find any vile sins of the flesh he was accused of by God or even the wicked in Egypt....He always did what was right no matter how dark the consequences were, cast into the pit, Potifars house, cast into prison, always raised up and declared righteous...


I don't think you really searched out all those places in the OT that Paul was quoting from...Do you think Josephs feet were quick to shed blood? or Mary's mouth was an open seplechure?

Come to the light of scripture and quit reading scripture in the light of Plato like Augustine, Luther, and Calvin did (all 3 were students of Plato) ....Jesus said they wont come to the light because their deeds were evil.....


I would recommend almost no movies of any kind, but I think this one is quite good and biblical..Watch this movie and tell me if you think Daniel is not perfect and righteous as God said he was... or was he just another sinner?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rORguprtMN8


 
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God said Cain could rule over sin, and EG says he can't, and nobody else can either, and if they try to that's the worst sin of all...he INSITS on numbering himself among the wicked. The whole bible on every page separates the saints from the sinners, yet he claims the name of Jesus but numbers himself among the sinners wicked ones...The 3rd commandment says not to take God's name in vain (Call yourself a Christian, but still live like the heathen world and sin which destroys their ambassadorship) I guess he deems all the men like Joseph were wicked/sinners. But the bible says he was righteous, Are we to believe EG or what God said? The simple story of Cain and Abel could be understood by a 5 year old, but groan man cannot?:confused: Why? Because they harden their heart to the point that the word cannot any longer work therein so they trample it underfoot
 
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He argues in favour of sin day in and day out, 40,000 post defending sin, its an obsession with him...Who could have such time on their hands for such great folly? It must be a 24/7 basement job..Its like pulling teeth to get him to agree with God and say that Abel was a righteous man, and Daniel was delivered by his own righteousness....
 
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Amen, Non of it can be removed.

1. They had done what they thought were great works in jesus name
2. Jesus NEVER KNEW THEM (they were never saved in spite of all their good works)
3. They practiced unrighteousness (their so called "good deeds" were deeds of self righteousness not Gods righteousness. which a person who God has a personal relationship (who God knows) does)
again a great display of what the gog does to a mind. Jesus is right about His Kingdom, im sorry you cant see that. I hope at some point you accept His word because it is the truth eternal.

john 8:31-32 "Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
 
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Amen, Non of it can be removed.

1. They had done what they thought were great works in jesus name
2. Jesus NEVER KNEW THEM (they were never saved in spite of all their good works)
3. They practiced unrighteousness (their so called "good deeds" were deeds of self righteousness not Gods righteousness. which a person who God has a personal relationship (who God knows) does)
Reality - The warning in matt 7 is against those who heal, cast out demons, prophecy in Jesus's
name. This behaviour does not make you a follower of Jesus. Living a righteous life does.
Staying an evil doer makes you in rebellion.

Jesus is saying evil deeds, staying a sinner, is not knowing Him.
Now EG quotes good works and calls good deeds from self evil, and good deeds from God
as righteous. This is the theology of all sin is forgiven for everyone and judgement is only
on good deeds either done in Christ (good) done in oneself (evil)

You will notice this theology of good and evil is not biblical or moral. We are talking good
deeds being called sinful. This starts to justify condemnation of believers and asking are
your deeds done in Christ or not, which again is a distinction God does not make.

Pauls distinction is works of the flesh ie sexual immorality, murder, lying etc or works
of the Spirit, love, kindness, patience, self control, blessing etc.
Good works are just that good works, no matter who does them or why.
As a result of love working in the heart of the believer they do an excessive amount of
good works as fruit of their lives as a light in a dark place.

Now I hope you can gather what EG is sharing is very odd and far removed from normal
morality, life and love. Which shows how convoluted his groups theology has become
and how he will condemn me as evil for sharing simple biblical truths. Only one force
I know calls evil good and good evil and it is not the Holy Spirit.
 
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God said Cain could rule over sin, and EG says he can't, and nobody else can either, and if they try to that's the worst sin of all...he INSITS on numbering himself among the wicked. The whole bible on every page separates the saints from the sinners, yet he claims the name of Jesus but numbers himself among the sinners wicked ones...The 3rd commandment says not to take God's name in vain (Call yourself a Christian, but still live like the heathen world and sin which destroys their ambassadorship) I guess he deems all the men like Joseph were wicked/sinners. But the bible says he was righteous, Are we to believe EG or what God said? The simple story of Cain and Abel could be understood by a 5 year old, but groan man cannot?:confused: Why? Because they harden their heart to the point that the word cannot any longer work therein so they trample it underfoot

2timothy4:1-4 "I charge [FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who SHALL JUDGE the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; [/FONT]2[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Preach THE WORD; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. [/FONT]3[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]For the time will come when they will not endure SOUND DOCTRINE; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves TEACHERS, having ITCHING EARS; [/FONT]4[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And they SHALL TURN THIER EARS AWAY FROM THE TRUTH[/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif], and shall be turned unto FABLES."


its actually pretty offensive to the gog believers to believe the things Jesus spoke or share them because ears have been turned away from truth through false doctrines. if a false teacher can convince a person " Hearing and obeying God is self righteousness" then when you see the truth of Jesus Word, it becomes an offense and will actually condemn you because of self righteousness. only the gog teaches such blinding things. directly opposing Jesus Christ, yet look at how deeply set it becomes in the mind and heart.....false doctrines are so dangerous which is why there is warning after warning like this in the new testament

1 john 2:3-6 "
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And HEREBY WE DO KNOW that we know him, IF WE KEEP his commandments. 4HE THAT SAITH I KNOW HIM, and KEEPETH NOT his commandments, is a liar, and the TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM. 5But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked."

[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]there is clarity after clarity just like this but when you refuse to believe it and explain it away because a false teacher tells you it doesnt apply, its time to repent and believe the gospel.

1 john 2:28-29 "
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And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. 29If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that DOETH RIGHTEOUSNESS is born of him."

[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1 john 3:10 "[/FONT]IN THIS the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever DOETH NOT righteousness IS NOT of God, neither he that loveth not his brother."

[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1 john 5:1-3 "[/FONT]Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. 2BY THIS WE KNOW that we love the children of God, when we love God, and KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. 3FOR THIS IS THE LOVE OF GOD, THAT WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS: and his commandments are NOT GREIVOUS. 4For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith."


[FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]there is at least 20 more perfect statements like this to guard the truth, but if someone doesnt believe, it will be foolishness to them. to Love God is to Keep His word given through Jesus. to learn to hate Gods commandments is the result of faith in mans false doctrines. its terrible but its throughout the "church" yet it was all foretold which is why ther phrase " do not be decieved appears so much throughout the new testament.

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Reality - The warning in matt 7 is against those who heal, cast out demons, prophecy in Jesus's
name. This behaviour does not make you a follower of Jesus. Living a righteous life does.
Staying an evil doer makes you in rebellion.

Jesus is saying evil deeds, staying a sinner, is not knowing Him.
Now EG quotes good works and calls good deeds from self evil, and good deeds from God
as righteous. This is the theology of all sin is forgiven for everyone and judgement is only
on good deeds either done in Christ (good) done in oneself (evil)

You will notice this theology of good and evil is not biblical or moral. We are talking good
deeds being called sinful. This starts to justify condemnation of believers and asking are
your deeds done in Christ or not, which again is a distinction God does not make.

Pauls distinction is works of the flesh ie sexual immorality, murder, lying etc or works
of the Spirit, love, kindness, patience, self control, blessing etc.
Good works are just that good works, no matter who does them or why.
As a result of love working in the heart of the believer they do an excessive amount of
good works as fruit of their lives as a light in a dark place.

Now I hope you can gather what EG is sharing is very odd and far removed from normal
morality, life and love. Which shows how convoluted his groups theology has become
and how he will condemn me as evil for sharing simple biblical truths. Only one force
I know calls evil good and good evil and it is not the Holy Spirit.

very true words peter. that is what the danger of a false doctrine is. when we say " false doctrine" it is what you believe that becomes doctrine our beliefs matter so much which is the very reason there is so many warnings about believing the truth and having nothing to do with fallacy. so many great points you have made here. i hope people will really examine what you have said in this post.
 
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like I said you number yourself among the wicked but the wicked and righteous are contrasted against each other on almost every page...All those things Paul pulled from the OT in Romans 3 there was a righteous group of people declared BY GOD Psalm 14 & 53 for example , yet you ignore the righteous and insist on numbering yourself with the wicked...

Granted, your nobody is perfect chant is true to the extent that no one is as perfect as God, I completely agree ,but we can at least be as perfect as Daniel who had no vile sins of the flesh don't ya think...Can we be as perfect as Daniel or Job was, or even Joseph? from the age of 17 compiled from 12 chapters in Gen...we cant find any vile sins of the flesh he was accused of by God or even the wicked in Egypt....He always did what was right no matter how dark the consequences were, cast into the pit, Potifars house, cast into prison, always raised up and declared righteous...


I don't think you really searched out all those places in the OT that Paul was quoting from...Do you think Josephs feet were quick to shed blood? or Mary's mouth was an open seplechure?

Come to the light of scripture and quit reading scripture in the light of Plato like Augustine, Luther, and Calvin did (all 3 were students of Plato) ....Jesus said they wont come to the light because their deeds were evil.....


I would recommend almost no movies of any kind, but I think this one is quite good and biblical..Watch this movie and tell me if you think Daniel is not perfect and righteous as God said he was... or was he just another sinner?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rORguprtMN8


....Jesus said they wont come to the light because their deeds were evil.....

1 john 1:6-10 " If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

john 3:19-21 "
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."

john 8:12-13 "
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. 13The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true. "

john 8:31-34 "
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, IF YE CONTINUE IN MY WORD, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you FREE.33They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?34Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin"

Romans 615-18 ":
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. 16Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 17But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but YE HAVE OBEYED from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18Being then MADE FREE FROM SIN, ye became the servants of righteousness. "
 
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Very True followjesus.....I might add that the penal substitution gospel was created during the reformation building upon Thomas Aquinas satisfaction atonement theory...Luther, Calvin and others invented the magical transfer all the while not understanding that virtue is NEVER transferred anywhere in the entire bible....It has blinded many for 500 years.. High level freemason Billy Graham perfected the lie in the mid 20th century and has deceived 100s of millions. It was designed to promise them liberty while still in your sins...Its is very blatant in Martin Luther's own writings...I will post some of his quotes when I get back to my other computer notes....Most will be amazed at what he actually believed about sin...

The TRUTH of conditional covenant theology is all but forgotten for magic transfers and covers......Knowing this first; there is NO payment for sin, a debt paid for can in no wise be forgiven......In truth Jesus was our propitiation (mercy seat of God) for our sin, thus purchasing our souls at Calvary....Big difference......

The satisfaction atonement theory is heresy, what really took place at Calvary is that Jesus justified God's mercy that He always wanted to extend to everyone.....He NEVER in any way satisfied God's wrath, that is a lie from the pit of hell, but rather He suffered at the hands of wicked men, therefore the wrath of God still abides on the children of disobedience.....Jesus in no way was a son of disobedience but rather a sweet smelling VOLUNTARY sacrifice to God the Father ON our behalf....
Hi WB

I just got on this thread and cannot read all through it.

I do have a question for you.

Do you believe the New Covenant is unconditional?
 
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They don't believe in a manifest change but rather adhere to a positional change, (make believe change) which is the same teachings that came from Ambrose, Augustine, Aquinas, Lurther, Calvin of whom all read the bible in the light of Plato....This video is an excellent video examining the difference between positional and manifest..

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[TD]Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.[/TD]
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Righteousness is manifest in our mortal bodies so that sin shall not rule over us..Exact same thing that God told Cain..Rev 22-11 says if we die in a sinful condition we will renaming in that condition forever, and if we die in a holy and righteous condition we will remain that way forever and Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For on the outside of the gates are the dogs/sinners, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie 14/15. ....dig deep your eternal soul depends on the foundation you lay rather it be on the Truth, or on the Lie....




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ_TyTrtArw
 
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Hi WB

I just got on this thread and cannot read all through it.

I do have a question for you.

Do you believe the New Covenant is unconditional?
Greetings FranC

Its unconditional in that God's grace in accordance to salvation has appeared to all men Titus 2-11, and now commands all men everywhere to repent, for He is no respecter of persons. He is longsuffering and desires that none should perish but that ALL should come to repentance ( a clearing, and a stop of the rebellion) for God's patience is indeed infinite, however the Covent of Redemption which was established when Jesus said "it is finished" is most certainly conditional. We are being reconciled back to God's favour through the blood of Christ (the mercy seat of God ie our propitiation for sin), that we should be faithfull, obedient, from the heart and workers together with God to achieve a RELATIONSHIP of love that can by no means be attained by any other means..God told Abraham "if" you do this, I will do that etc. To be incovant with God one must realise that their are conditions....such as "without holiness none will see the Lord"...Hope this helps

Note: The heart is simply the desires of man, not the roman catholic pagan pictures of hearts that we see everywhere that are passed of by many as a portion of love...heavy brainwashing..................The heart is the center of the soulish desires, it must be pure before God, having no guile, (ulterior motives), in order to enter the kingdom. Thus man MUST come clean with God in repentance not to be repented of 2 Cor. 7-11...

 
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He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.[SUP]9 [/SUP]Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 1 John 3: 8-9
 
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This man was one of the very few that taught heart purity, without it one cannot forgive his/her neighbour because the resentment hasn't been totally purged out in repentance, thus he/her speaks both blessings and curses out of the same mouth, still harboring resentment....a double minded man..the keys to the kingdom are obedience and forgiveness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXacO3G5_Uc
 
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ezekiel 36:26-27 "A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them."





 
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We are saved by Yah, by His plan and mercy, if we believe and do*, we will enter the kingdom.
Thank you, You just prove you believe someone is not saved until they obey.

Not that we obey BECAUSE we believe (and were saved)

I will keep this for my records every time you say you do not teach this.
 
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like I said you number yourself among the wicked but the wicked and righteous are contrasted against each other on almost every page...All those things Paul pulled from the OT in Romans 3 there was a righteous group of people declared BY GOD Psalm 14 & 53 for example , yet you ignore the righteous and insist on numbering yourself with the wicked...

Granted, your nobody is perfect chant is true to the extent that no one is as perfect as God, I completely agree ,but we can at least be as perfect as Daniel who had no vile sins of the flesh don't ya think...Can we be as perfect as Daniel or Job was, or even Joseph? from the age of 17 compiled from 12 chapters in Gen...we cant find any vile sins of the flesh he was accused of by God or even the wicked in Egypt....He always did what was right no matter how dark the consequences were, cast into the pit, Potifars house, cast into prison, always raised up and declared righteous...


I don't think you really searched out all those places in the OT that Paul was quoting from...Do you think Josephs feet were quick to shed blood? or Mary's mouth was an open seplechure?

Come to the light of scripture and quit reading scripture in the light of Plato like Augustine, Luther, and Calvin did (all 3 were students of Plato) ....Jesus said they wont come to the light because their deeds were evil.....


I would recommend almost no movies of any kind, but I think this one is quite good and biblical..Watch this movie and tell me if you think Daniel is not perfect and righteous as God said he was... or was he just another sinner?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rORguprtMN8


do me a favor. Go study the word, then get back to me.

Maybe then we can have a normal coversation.


Until then, take your judgment some place else..
 
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James 2:26, "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so also the belief is dead without the works."



*John/Yahanan 5:46-47, "For had you believed Mosheh, you would have believed Me, for he wrote about Me*. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"


*Mosheh wrote:

Deuteronomy 18:18-19, "I (YHWH) will raise up for them a Prophet (Yahshua/Jesus) like you from among their brothers, and I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. Whoever will not listen to My words, which He speaks in My Name, I will judge him for it"

"listen" is word #8085 - שָׁמַעshama` {shaw-mah'}

Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) - 1) to hear, listen to, obey

James 2:14,
"14 My brothers, what use is it for anyone to say he has belief but does not have works? This belief is unable to save him.
"15, "And if a brother or sister is naked and in need of daily food,
"16, "but one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” but you do not give them the bodily needs, what use is it?
17, "So also belief, if it does not have works, is in itself dead.
18, "But someone might say, “You have belief, and I have works.” Show me your belief without your works, and I shall show you my belief by my works.
19, "You believe that Yah is one. You do well. The demons also believe – and shudder!
20, "But do you wish to know, O foolish man, that the belief without the works is dead?
21, "Was not Aḇraham our father declared right by works when he offered Yitsḥaq his son on the slaughter-place?
22, "Do you see that the belief was working with his works, and by the works the belief was perfected?
23, "And the Scripture was filled which says, “Aḇraham believed Yah, and it was reckoned to him for righteousness.” And He called him, “he who loves Yah.”
"24, "You see, then, that a man is declared right by works, and not by belief alone.
"25, "In the same way, was not Raḥaḇ the whore also declared right by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
"26, "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so also the belief is dead without the works."

Once again.

THOSE WHO HAVE FAITH DO WORKS.. Not to PROVE they have faith, but as a BYPRODUCT of that faith.

Those who do not do works, HAVE NO FAITH (IT IS DEAD), thats why thay have no works..

No faith = no salvation.

Faith plus works = no salvation, because your faith is not in God but in your works..
 
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"For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast." Eph. 2:8-9


and we can add.

titus 3: 5. Not by WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE, but BY HIS MERCY,, HE SAVED US by the washing and renewal of the HS

We do not save ourselves by our good deeds, or works, HE saves us based on his mercy through the cross.

Born again not of perishable seed, but inperishable..