Some truth about speaking in tongues, the Holy Ghost, spiritual gifts and 1 Corinthians 14

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stonesoffire

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Poor analysis of the video in my signature by a former Roman Catholic priest, but it's obvious you would rather embrace a lie than than hear any truth.

The Father is not the Holy Spirit and you obviously don't know either, you say you have received Him, but what's blasphemy to you?

Luke 3:22
And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

Not what I said. Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Father. I’m trinity all the way. Read it again. The fullness of His power. Got it?

And blasphemy is to call His Spirit of the devil. Some here have certainly done but hopefully in ignorance.
 

7seasrekeyed

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Too many think that there’s a battle yet between God and satan. There will be if we believe this.. he runs when rebuked by His name.

I actually heard shouting...”she knows the truth”.

We have an open heaven now. Best truth I ever learned about warfare.
the battle is on actually and it is between US and the devil

obviously the devil does not just pick up his skirts and run

he even left Jesus only for a season before the crucifixion

of course I agree that the devil is no match for God at all

but we are no match for the devil in our own strength

lots of deception out there
 

stonesoffire

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1. JOHN 4,1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the Spirit wether they are of God: Because many false prophets are gone out into the World.
You will know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

False prophets are hirelings. Money is their god.
 

7seasrekeyed

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You will know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

False prophets are hirelings. Money is their god.

it is ridiculous how cessationists take verses that actually mean the OPPOSITE of the cessationist viewpoint

like I said

deception

and it is killing people
 

7seasrekeyed

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OKAY!! Time for a sanity and reality check. I stumbled across this young lady on Youtube, and her story is awesome. I am going to watch the movie "American Gospel" before posting it. But for now, watch as Lindsay Davis tells us how she escaped Hogwarts and the Charismatic 'church":


stumbled after searching until you went cross eyed?

I don't agree with all Bethel does, but at least they are alive and too awful busy to bother looking up videos of Baptists asleep on their pews

so glad you found a cause here that just sets your little hinny on fire
 

7seasrekeyed

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interestingly, it turns out Doreen Virtue (real name?) was so deep into the occult she is still coming out IMO

so now everything is the bogeyman

Doreen has written many books about her occult experiences and now, loving the spotlight, is busy condemning all things supernatural

oh. I forgot to mention. Doreen is behind that video that our resident video presenter presented
 

7seasrekeyed

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you know, the op was about 'some truth about speaking in tongues' but we do not get very much of that

this is really not the thread to introduce every sensationalist video a person can come up with

nothing really from scripture, but just more people talking that someone agrees with so hold everything you are doing and immediately watch the video

not gonna happen

I learned about false moves a long time ago and these cessationist alarm bells ringing are one of those false moves

what we need is proper teaching from SCRIPTURE and people who actually KNOW what they are talking about

IMO this backlash is just as virulent and emotional on the part of cessationists as what those who believe the teaching in scripture are accused of...with less truth and authority

I have no problem with presenting something from another site or a video that speaks to the op, but that is not what we have here

choices

all day long we make them
 

stonesoffire

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the battle is on actually and it is between US and the devil

obviously the devil doe not just pick up his skirts and run

I'll keep my armor on for now and keep discerning and maybe when all the smoke is cleared off the battlefield we will have a better view

I notice you seem to follow sonship teaching?

I do not know much about that so I cannot agree or disagree
Sonship is just manifesting Jesus to the world. Becoming who and what we are here rather than waiting for a rapture to take us to heaven.

It’s lying spirits that we battle with mostly. That’s why the not by works thread is so important and decontroversal is doing a great job standing. Our human nature wants to do something rather than rest upon another’s work. It’s how we roll until the new birth. There’s the change or the exchange of His nature (work of the cross) for our fallen nature. Death literally to resurrection life. Faith is always the door to the things of God.

Flying Dove had a great post on the feasts and how they represent the stages of the life in the anointed Son Jesus. I’ve posted it many times too but her post is much deeper.

Passover, the blood on the door, escape from eternal death into life in the promised land.
Pentecost, the overcoming Holy Spirit within our spirit taking us through the land,taking down the enemy.
Tabernacles, the fullness of His Spirit, our solid walk manifesting God in our life.

Then John speaks of it in one of his writings. The child, the young man, and the father.

Those are my thoughts by the way, not hers.

Our amor stays. :). Put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ and make no provision for the flesh. Don’t feed it. Lol



Am not in a group that follows Sonship teachings. I was briefly in the ‘70’s but not now.
 

stonesoffire

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interestingly, it turns out Doreen Virtue (real name?) was so deep into the occult she is still coming out IMO

so now everything is the bogeyman

Doreen has written many books about her occult experiences and now, loving the spotlight, is busy condemning all things supernatural

oh. I forgot to mention. Doreen is behind that video that our resident video presenter presented
Aha! Truth always comes out. I thought why did those not cast out those demons rather than making a video to debunk what is real?

We know that satan mimics every gift. But, the evil will be discerned in the meetings by Holy Spirit in others.
 

PennEd

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So the whole movie you have to buy, but here is a good chunk of the movie, that gives the TRUE Gospel and not this EXPERIENCE as an Idol, and desire for power, health and wealth gospel. People who have been slapping "in Jesus name.." after every earthly desire, like rubbing a magic lamp, need to watch. Praying God will deliver those caught up in erecting SELF, and EXPERIENCE as an idol, doing it in Jesus Name of course!

 

7seasrekeyed

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Sonship is just manifesting Jesus to the world. Becoming who and what we are here rather than waiting for a rapture to take us to heaven.

It’s lying spirits that we battle with mostly. That’s why the not by works thread is so important and decontroversal is doing a great job standing. Our human nature wants to do something rather than rest upon another’s work. It’s how we roll until the new birth. There’s the change or the exchange of His nature (work of the cross) for our fallen nature. Death literally to resurrection life. Faith is always the door to the things of God.

Flying Dove had a great post on the feasts and how they represent the stages of the life in the anointed Son Jesus. I’ve posted it many times too but her post is much deeper.

Passover, the blood on the door, escape from eternal death into life in the promised land.
Pentecost, the overcoming Holy Spirit within our spirit taking us through the land,taking down the enemy.
Tabernacles, the fullness of His Spirit, our solid walk manifesting God in our life.

Then John speaks of it in one of his writings. The child, the young man, and the father.

Those are my thoughts by the way, not hers.

Our amor stays. :). Put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ and make no provision for the flesh. Don’t feed it. Lol



Am not in a group that follows Sonship teachings. I was briefly in the ‘70’s but not now.

well I can't disagree with this :giggle:

you are saying some very notable things here, but will be passed over (forgive the pun)

IMO, the OT is very much a physical picture of the present spiritual one...but that is hardly an original thought on my part I guess
 

7seasrekeyed

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So the whole movie you have to buy, but here is a good chunk of the movie, that gives the TRUE Gospel and not this EXPERIENCE as an Idol, and desire for power, health and wealth gospel. People who have been slapping "in Jesus name.." after every earthly desire, like rubbing a magic lamp, need to watch. Praying God will deliver those caught up in erecting SELF, and EXPERIENCE as an idol, doing it in Jesus Name of course!


praying God will deliver those He has called out of dead religion

Amen!
 

PennEd

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Found the whole movie!! Be Blessed and be free of the fake gospel.

 

garee

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well I can't disagree with this :giggle:

you are saying some very notable things here, but will be passed over (forgive the pun)

IMO, the OT is very much a physical picture of the present spiritual one...but that is hardly an original thought on my part I guess
Can you agree that eternal spirutual gift are gifts not seen?

Literal gifts can be seen. I have not received my reward of a new incorruptible body as of yet.

Why would a person put themselves under the oral tradition of self-edification rather than walking by faith the unseen ?

The same below (they have their reward) could apply to the misconception of tongues as a sign . What does it confirm other than for all that God has done prophesying they believe not (no faith) having it in respect to something they can do outwardly to edify their own self?

I would stay far away hiding the word of God in my newly created heart...remembering, he must increase We edify him not our own selves.

Matthew 6:16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
 

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Found the whole movie!! Be Blessed and be free of the fake gospel.

Only cessationists will watch your bait and switch echo chamber invincible ignorance.
Pure trash. All attacking.
Your God is weak and powerless and you are here to make darn sure he stays that way.
Go attack another group.
Stop shooting the body of Christ.
 

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2 Timothy 3:13
But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
Amen!
Start living in the word,and worship till the Holy Spirit takes you to new places.
You will turn from your powerless dry dead teachers right away.
They omit the verses that will help you
 

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To all the Holy Spirit haters.

Your top guru attacker and hater is Hank Hannegraff.
He had to be threatened with a law suit from a Presbyterian to cease from a book he plagerized.
He also got caught embezzling.

SEEMS TO ME YOU GOT A REAL GOLD MINE OF THE FILTH AND DIRT YOU LOVE....RIGHT IN YOUR OWN HOUSE!

Now get busy and go trash some baptists.
Quick,get those covers off Noah and expose him.
We are counting on you to save us.
Get them vids,and start your tireless trashing kiddos.

Too funny