Someone please help me with this debate I'm in with these atheist fools
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So in this comment section on youtube there was this atheist guy mocking Christian music. Later down the line another one comes in and now they're saying there's no evidence of Jesus and the bible isn't credible. Can you provide me the best links to articles that prove Jesus Christ's existence and that supports the bible's claims? I'm a new Christian so I'm not good with this stuff.
Your right south, you stand up to them even though your a new Christian this is how you learn. I would say to them (as an example) how do they know George Washington existed? Did you see him or did you read about him? Now take that same argument regarding Jesus Christ. Remember, the Bible is not the only evidence that Jesus Christ really existed but written sources who were the enemies of Jesus Christ wrote about him. In fact, one source called Jesus a bastard so no one would call Him a bastard if He did not truly exist.
The Bible is filled with prophecies that happened/fulfilled years after the prophecy was made. It's hard to give you a crash course but my main purpose is what I said in my first paragraph. Turn the argument back on them and ask them if they ever saw atheist like hume, nietzche etc. How did they learn they existed? And btw as a side note the word "atheism" comes from the Greek word "atheos" and it means "without gods."
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
The Bible is filled with prophecies that happened/fulfilled years after the prophecy was made. It's hard to give you a crash course but my main purpose is what I said in my first paragraph. Turn the argument back on them and ask them if they ever saw atheist like hume, nietzche etc. How did they learn they existed? And btw as a side note the word "atheism" comes from the Greek word "atheos" and it means "without gods."
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
you will get NO where with a true Atheist. Why,, because they know the Bible pretty well and will make it work against you. No matter what scripture you quote or concept you try to convey, they already have an answer for it. The only person who can change their minds (short of them coming to you for help) is God Himself.
Even on this forum you have arguments on the Bible and its contents, whether it is the true WORD of GOD, etc....etc.
Best to leave them alone ....believe me I know.
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I do know what you mean, really talking to anyone who has their mind made up about something is like talking to a closed door, but the exercise may be more for the benefit of the OP (South_FLA) in the long run, here he has already gotten quite a bit of support from fellow believers, a sympathetic ear from some if not all of us, many resources shared...
I talked to non believers for eight years as a fairly new Christian, of course over that eight years I became a not so new Christian any more, but I did learn a lot, even about Scripture, and the arguments the opposers put forth, well, there is a lot to look into there also if one is so inclined, some of it is quite interesting though for sure they are not truly valid proofs against the existence of God. No one would be able to prove such a thing, so right away they have shown some lack of logic, a chink in their armour because they want so desperately to believe that they are smarter and more rational than believers are, despite the fact that we have evidence for our beliefs, while they have none to support their lack of belief!
Other than all that and anything else that has been said, for sure it is the Holy Spirit of God moving in the life of any non-believer that is going to rattle their cage the most. That should not stop us testifying to them.
I talked to non believers for eight years as a fairly new Christian, of course over that eight years I became a not so new Christian any more, but I did learn a lot, even about Scripture, and the arguments the opposers put forth, well, there is a lot to look into there also if one is so inclined, some of it is quite interesting though for sure they are not truly valid proofs against the existence of God. No one would be able to prove such a thing, so right away they have shown some lack of logic, a chink in their armour because they want so desperately to believe that they are smarter and more rational than believers are, despite the fact that we have evidence for our beliefs, while they have none to support their lack of belief!
Other than all that and anything else that has been said, for sure it is the Holy Spirit of God moving in the life of any non-believer that is going to rattle their cage the most. That should not stop us testifying to them.
This is a keeper link. PH! I've already sent it to my sister, and a FB atheist friend has some other atheist friends who bring up their "Jesus didn't really exist" links all the time. This is a great answer!
I knew most of the information, but so nice to have it all in one place, done in a scholarly manner, and with pictures and most important- footnotes!
I don't get why these days atheists have moved away from saying "Jesus exists, but he wasn't God" to "Jesus never existed." Surely 2000 years of western civilization, based on the Bible is the simplest answer to that issue!
Anyway, to the OP - keep on posting to those atheists, is my opinion. Back in my atheist days, lots and lots of Christians witnessed to me. They told me their testimonies, they gave me tracts. It was scary, realizing that God was closing in on me. But he did, and he saved me, ion spite of myself.
I was also a professional musician before I was saved. I gave my music totally to God, and figured for a while, he was now going to make me into a famous Christian musician. God had so many better ideas for my life. (Not saying this is your case). He made me a wife and mother, a teacher, and then a pastor. But, he did allow me to keep my love and passion of music. I have pretty much played in some kind of worship team, orchestra or lead worship, been a worship leader my whole Christian walk. (36 years!)
I'm glad God did not take away my love of playing music and sharing the gifts he has given me. So, be open to many things. Let God lead you. And if he takes you down the music road, then consider yourself fortunate. If he does not, well, keep playing anyway! I know sometimes it is hard to get into church worship teams, but if God wants you to, he will provide a place!
Here is the great atheist, Richard Dawkins, admitting Jesus existed.
If people think this has been edited, you can go right to youtube and find longer versions of the same exchange.
This should be enough to settle things with any atheist.
[video=youtube;Ant5HS01tBQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ant5HS01tBQ[/video]
If people think this has been edited, you can go right to youtube and find longer versions of the same exchange.
This should be enough to settle things with any atheist.
[video=youtube;Ant5HS01tBQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ant5HS01tBQ[/video]
Ask that person to read the resurrection debate between Gary Habermas and Antony FLew and tell them not to bother you any more until they read it. Here's a link to the books.google.com site on that https://books.google.com.mx/books/about/Did_Jesus_rise_from_the_dead.html?id=QyrYorlcEyIC&hl=es-419
Any questions on creation or evolution, let me know. I've spent over 20 years researching it.
Any questions on creation or evolution, let me know. I've spent over 20 years researching it.
Brother jb don't worry I didn't call them fools when I was debating with them on youtube. I only called them that on CC. I mean I did show them Psalm 14:1 but I didn't say anything like "You're nothing but a fool". I don't think I'm better than anyone believe me. Everyone is equal and I stand by that.