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J
I took the pill when I was a teenager because of being anorexic, I lost my periods for five years. I was not sexually active until I was 19 and I didn't know the Lord. I wish I had. When I got married, I had five kids in a row! My first son died because he was born too early and a couple people at the church I went to implied that it was because of sin that he died. I am glad that back then, I knew not to take that to heart and blame God. After my last daughter was born, I got my tubes tied which was a very wise decision because I would have kept having kids because birth control did not work on me very good.
H
Well, there is a certain time frame for most women, not all, but for most women on a regular menstrul cycle where they can't get pregnant. Normally, the egg needs to be fertilized in the fallopian tubes so that it can implant in the uterus, and so there is a really small, usually 3-5 day window when fertilization can happen, and there are about two days before and two days after that cycle you should be careful because sperm can live for about 7 days and sometimes you can be a couple days late having your egg sent to the fallopian tubes. Also, a woman's body temperature rises a couple degrees when she is "in heat" so you can try the temperature method, too.
H
Yea, it's not really, in fact, I think it's only about 60% effective. It assumes that all women have the same cycle at the same time every month, which just isn't the case. Lots of things affect your cycle. In honestly, getting pregnant is kind of a miracle because the "window of opportunity" is so slim, and SO many things can go wrong. I think this is less a birth control method and more of a, sorry, you just happened to not get pregnant 60% of the times you tried it.
H
Lol Pickles! Wow, yeah, those must have been suprises. Supposedly I'm a b-positive and it's supposed to be a VERY fertile blood type...i've certaintly got the hips for it, but my husband and I are in no ways ready to support a family. I'm all for people who want to be fruitful and mulitiply, but I'm not sure that's something God has planned for my husband and I, at least not yet. I've been very lucky that my bc methods have worked...especially since sometimes I'm not as diligent taking my pills as I should be.
J
I used to use a C7 IUD after I had kids until I found out that these contraptions can actually abort a fertilized egg through a period. I was shocked and had it taken out and never used an IUD again. Besides that, the little boy that I had that died, I got pregnant with him on an IUD and it come out of place and was stuck inside my uterus. I had him when he was only five months along. It was very sad. He lived only a couple weeks. That was way back in 1978.
Actually, you're thinking of the Rhythm method. Natural Family Planning is NOT the Rhythm Method. properly utilized, it's got an effictiveness rating of bout 99% Comparable to the Pill or condoms.
There's a great book put out called "Take Charge of Your Fertility" that goes into the detail about the science behind Natural Family Planning.
As far as the idea of contraceptives being moral, I'm taking the stance that they are not. In fact, up until about a hundred years ago ALL Christian denominations taught that birth control was a grave sin.
The Catholic point of view on things is found in the papal encyclical called "Humanae Vitae" if I recall correctly. It's a very great document discussing the issue and gives a very strong scriptural argument against contraceptives.
H
How is using the rhythm method any different morally than using a condom or a pill? What if your spouse has an std and you use a condom to keep from contracting it? What if you have a hormonal irregularity and need the pill to control your cycles? We've already seen that if you are going to get pregnant, you're gonna get pregnant no matter what method you use, so I want to know why "natural family planning" is any different than any other kind of family planning.
C
What he's saying, I think, is that it's morally wrong to use birth control for the sole/primary reason of controlling the amount of children you have. If birth control is a second or third order effect of treating a medical condition or prevent transmission of an infectious disease, I would say that makes things a lot different.
I agree with you that Natural Family Planning is not morally different from using any other form of non-abortive birth control. The Catholic argument and support for/of this doesn't make sense! In both cases, YOU are deciding that you don't want to have any more children, and taking control of fertility into your own hands to make it so. The mechanism by which that is done (again, so long as it doesn't cause abortions), seems kind of irrelevant.
Not that he doesn't say "that you may devote yourselves to prayer, or thwart your reproductive processes."
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I agree with you that Natural Family Planning is not morally different from using any other form of non-abortive birth control. The Catholic argument and support for/of this doesn't make sense! In both cases, YOU are deciding that you don't want to have any more children, and taking control of fertility into your own hands to make it so. The mechanism by which that is done (again, so long as it doesn't cause abortions), seems kind of irrelevant.
Not that he doesn't say "that you may devote yourselves to prayer, or thwart your reproductive processes."
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L
I believe in birth control to control the amount of children a person has. Especially if you and your husband are poor, how are you gonna have ten kids and support all of them. I can honestly say none of these birth control methods are really that effective. Like harley said if god wants you to have a child your gonna have one no matter what. I got pregnant with my daughter when i was on the pill. I've gotten pregnant four other times as well using all these so called ''birth control'' methods, none of those babys survived but one, still though, i dont believe any type of birth control really works. You can pregnant at any given time of the month, its rediculas to think otherwise.
H
GOod question Iraa. I remember talking in one of my business classes about how in India, they came out with a ring tone that says "Condom" over and over again.
Also, what about countries where there is government control over how many kids you can have, like in China? You can have more than one, but the taxes and fees to be allowed are so outrageous most people can't afford it. Do you think God frowns on this, or do you think He knows we've been fruitful and mulitiplied enough that some countries can't support any more people?
Also, what about countries where there is government control over how many kids you can have, like in China? You can have more than one, but the taxes and fees to be allowed are so outrageous most people can't afford it. Do you think God frowns on this, or do you think He knows we've been fruitful and mulitiplied enough that some countries can't support any more people?
G
well one could argue that we then have little faith, as Jesus Himself said:
Mat 6:25 "Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing?
Mat 6:26 Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?
Mat 6:27 Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?
Mat 6:28 "So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin;
Mat 6:29 and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
Mat 6:30 Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
Mat 6:31 "Therefore do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?'
Mat 6:32 For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things.
Mat 6:33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
Mat 6:34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.
Mat 6:25 "Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing?
Mat 6:26 Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?
Mat 6:27 Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?
Mat 6:28 "So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin;
Mat 6:29 and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
Mat 6:30 Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
Mat 6:31 "Therefore do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?'
Mat 6:32 For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things.
Mat 6:33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
Mat 6:34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.
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