Stop beating the kids! Spiritual abuse of Christians

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Stephen63

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Ariel82 said:
Stephen, you are the top of my prayer list. I pray every day that you stop talking enough and listen, so I can take you off ignore.

Hasn't happen yet, but I have hope.

I had Lauren on ignore for a week before we learned to respect and love one another. (sorry Lauren, just telling the truth. We had a rough beginning)
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By all means, pray for me. I'll never turn prayer down.:)
 
royalscot

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BeyondET said:
Forgiveness helps many to overcome the effects of abuse...
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i agree, so that would answer, why god gave them animals to blame , when taking it to the temple. (old testament)
to free them from condemnation. and to why the pharisee could not understand what jesus told them. this yoke hold all under the old testament. etc
 
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Grace777x70 said:

The abuse comes from those that have the appearance of being mature Christians but are not.

People can be a Christian for 60 years, pastor a church for 50 years, read the original Greek/Hebrew fluently, go to church every time the door is open, pray in tongues for 7 hours a day, be able to quote 1/2 the NT...etc ( these are not bad things within themselves - they just do not prove that they are mature Christians in the Lord)

If we see people exhibiting these traits as Peter talks about below - they are still babes in the Lord despite all the "activities" they do. I wouldn't call them "wolves as such" but they are under the influence of the one that is from the origin of the nature of real wolves.

1 Peter 2:1-2 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Therefore, putting aside all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander,

[SUP]2 [/SUP] like newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the word, so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation,

I believe the answer to these wolves is to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ and thus grow up in Him. This will stop us from "acting like wolves" and also speak words of life and grace that will protect those young ones until they too are established in Christ.
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we have free will, that has different understandings to scripture. yet all live under the grace that is provided under believing in a god through jesus.

.42 And he commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one appointed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.Acts 10:
 
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Ariel82 said:
malice
deceit
Hypocrisy
Envy
slander,

Strong words, yet they aren't called wolves but babes in Christ.
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the soul needs both reasoning from both understanding of how human think. (to good and to bad).

without a definition to
deceit
Hypocrisy
Envy
slander,

you have very little chance ,to get definition. love , joy peace, etc( because of the yoke)etc
 
royalscot

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Willie-T said:
Yep. Something most of us do with many parts of our lives.
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the scripture explain, from beginning to it end ,alpha and omega. ie adam and eves off spring to the end of times off spring.
this is gods world, and what he made, is his harvest etc.
 
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Ariel82 said:
I am too busy looking at Jesus to see enemies.
Was feeling kind of beaten down, so was planning on taking a break, but didn't want you to leave believing the lie that I viewed you as an enemy.
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return to sender , that pentecoste was some time later after jesus was off the cross. and cornlious , should have been understood before returning to act 2 or the cross. etc Shift+R improves the quality of this image. Shift+A improves the quality of all images on this page.Shift+R improves the quality of this image. Shift+A improves the quality of all images on this page.
 
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I need an interpreter for your posts Royal Scot....I don't understand even half of what you are saying.
 
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Stephen63 said:
By all means, pray for me. I'll never turn prayer down.:)
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see prayer needs two ways to be answered. if the people, who you pray for, have no understanding to your needs,or have no friendship with you. then speculation to a fathers will, is being stamped without consent.

Whatever house you enter, first say, 'Peace be to this house!'6 And if a son of peace is there, your peace will rest upon him. But if not, it will return to you.7Luke 10
 
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Ariel82 said:
I need an interpreter for your posts Royal Scot....I don't understand even half of what you are saying.
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thank you, very much, i will keep that in mind. to why milk drinkers , need solid food. after being weaned.
 
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royalscot said:
return to sender , that pentecoste was some time later after jesus was off the cross. and cornlious , should have been understood before returning to act 2 or the cross. etc Shift+R improves the quality of this image. Shift+A improves the quality of all images on this page.Shift+R improves the quality of this image. Shift+A improves the quality of all images on this page.
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that should be 3 smile face at the end, but have failed to stamp the smile faces . etc
 
notuptome

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Not feeding the children sound doctrine is the most criminal of abuse toward babies in the Lord. Give them the sincere milk of the word of God that they might grow thereby.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Unless we are moved by the spirit of the Lord to counsel those in need I would suggest prayer only.

Every day I read about spiritual abuse and the pain it causes the hurt it inflicts, the suffering in has on so many people. It's throughout the gospels.
But I noticed only one that knew the hearts. One that knew what they were thinking. One that rose to the occasion to stop the abuse....Jesus.
He told his followers if I tell you about earthly things and you do not understand how much more would you understand heavenly things?
There is a time and a place and a purpose for everyone of the saints , let's not dare go where angles fear to tread but let us learn to humble ourselves and ask the Lord to raise one up among us.
Throwing caution to the wind like my sister depleted has and defining what abuse is as my sister Lauren has is wisdom from what they have experienced.
Anger is usually in the company of hurt and sorrow.
We know the great physician and the mighty counselor let us all start there.


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Willie-T

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pottersclay said:
Unless we are moved by the spirit of the Lord to counsel those in need I would suggest prayer only.

Every day I read about spiritual abuse and the pain it causes the hurt it inflicts, the suffering in has on so many people. It's throughout the gospels.
But I noticed only one that knew the hearts. One that knew what they were thinking. One that rose to the occasion to stop the abuse....Jesus.
He told his followers if I tell you about earthly things and you do not understand how much more would you understand heavenly things?
There is a time and a place and a purpose for everyone of the saints , let's not dare go where angles fear to tread but let us learn to humble ourselves and ask the Lord to raise one up among us.
Throwing caution to the wind like my sister depleted has and defining what abuse is as my sister Lauren has is wisdom from what they have experienced.
Anger is usually in the company of hurt and sorrow.
We know the great physician and the mighty counselor let us all start there.


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Very definitely! There are many quite sensitive things that we should never assume to be so brazen as to think we can "cure" with a few words to a stranger on a forum.

We often do more harm than good when we just post some Scripture, or tell someone that it will all be fixed if they only have enough faith. WOF has damaged more people like that than you can count.
 
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We can listen and pray. Allow God to answer. Too often people talk because they can't stand silence and stillness.

But God often tells us. "Be still and know that I am God."
 
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pottersclay

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You know sometimes the offending party can be the lord himself. To humble a prideful person, there's just so many reasons I just pray.
 
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LaurenTM

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Ariel82 said:
Stephen, you are the top of my prayer list. I pray every day that you stop talking enough and listen, so I can take you off ignore.

Hasn't happen yet, but I have hope.

I had Lauren on ignore for a week before we learned to respect and love one another. (sorry Lauren, just telling the truth. We had a rough beginning)
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which makes our friendship in the Lord all the better!
 
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Stephen63 said:
Let's not forget that Pentecostals belong to the Lord, too..... jus' sayin' :)
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oh

so there's hope? (teasing you a bit there Stephen cause you are so teasable..;))

join the conversation...wonder what might happen.......
 
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It gives me hope. Each morning I awake refreshed and better able to understand the lessons God teaches me.

I know sometimes I get it wrong, but God still loves me and is patient with me.

It's nice to have people in your life who can see you at your worst, but still love you despite your bad moods and mean words. It's even better to have folks who can make you laugh and focus on the light instead of the darkness.
 
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LaurenTM said:
oh

so there's hope? (teasing you a bit there Stephen cause you are so teasable..;))

join the conversation...wonder what might happen.......
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Haha, we typed that at the same time.,.hope on both our minds it seems.
 
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