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hi GRA
i looked at your chart.
brother, you have so much done!
amazing.
i can't agree with the order of things in the chart.
but i'm impressed nonetheless, for sure.
wish i could make charts.
the trouble for me is, i don't think we can successfully make a linear arrangement of things which are not listed in a linear chronology.
the prophesies, for example, in Revelation use grammatical devices such as the polysyndeton 'AND'....
the AND signifies we are possibly changing 'scenes' in the visions, or at the very least that much more is included than is "listed".
Polysyndeton
A rhetorical term for a sentence style that employs many coordinating conjunctions (the opposite of asyndeton). Adjective: polysyndetic.
"Despite their formidable names, polysyndeton and asyndeton are nothing more than different ways of handling a list or a series. Polysyndeton places a conjunction (and, or) after every term in the list (except, of course, the last). Asyndeton uses no conjunctions and separates the terms of the list with commas. Both differ from the conventional treatment of lists and series, which is to use only commas between all items except the last two, these being joined by a conjunction (with or without a comma--it is optional)."
(Thomas S. Kane, The New Oxford Guide to Writing. Oxford University Press, 1988)
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here's what i mean.
if i wish to write to my Cousin about a dream i had which was a series of images with an overall message, i might do it something like this:
First (thing i remember in the beginning of my dream) was that i saw _______, and then I saw _____, and ______, and then _____, and _______, and then i saw ____, and i heard ____, etc.
just because i list the things "I saw" in my dream in an order such as above, does not mean the dream was sequential in terms of linear-time events (i.e.; First, in order in time, i saw; then the next thing that happened (in chronological-time order) was; then after that this happened; followed by such-and-such).
since my dream is a series of images and sounds (not always in chronological sequence), i might actually be trying to express my dream something more like this:
"Hi Cousin Jane - I had a dream last night about that summer we spent at Auntie Anne's, the summer our Uncle got sick, and i realized something important about the family in general i wanted to share with you":
First in my dream:
i looked....and we were kids in the hayloft playing....
and i saw...
then i saw....
and then i looked....
and i saw....
and....
and i heard....
and i saw....
then i saw....
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that prolly made no sense whatsoever GRA
maybe i need an exter coffee.
want one? large w'shot of espresso.
man, why doesn't Tim's automatically put the cozy on the cup anymore???
like....a paper cup isn't uber-hot???
o.p.p.zone
i looked at your chart.
brother, you have so much done!
amazing.
i can't agree with the order of things in the chart.
but i'm impressed nonetheless, for sure.
wish i could make charts.
the trouble for me is, i don't think we can successfully make a linear arrangement of things which are not listed in a linear chronology.
the prophesies, for example, in Revelation use grammatical devices such as the polysyndeton 'AND'....
the AND signifies we are possibly changing 'scenes' in the visions, or at the very least that much more is included than is "listed".
Polysyndeton
A rhetorical term for a sentence style that employs many coordinating conjunctions (the opposite of asyndeton). Adjective: polysyndetic.
"Despite their formidable names, polysyndeton and asyndeton are nothing more than different ways of handling a list or a series. Polysyndeton places a conjunction (and, or) after every term in the list (except, of course, the last). Asyndeton uses no conjunctions and separates the terms of the list with commas. Both differ from the conventional treatment of lists and series, which is to use only commas between all items except the last two, these being joined by a conjunction (with or without a comma--it is optional)."
(Thomas S. Kane, The New Oxford Guide to Writing. Oxford University Press, 1988)
~
here's what i mean.
if i wish to write to my Cousin about a dream i had which was a series of images with an overall message, i might do it something like this:
First (thing i remember in the beginning of my dream) was that i saw _______, and then I saw _____, and ______, and then _____, and _______, and then i saw ____, and i heard ____, etc.
just because i list the things "I saw" in my dream in an order such as above, does not mean the dream was sequential in terms of linear-time events (i.e.; First, in order in time, i saw; then the next thing that happened (in chronological-time order) was; then after that this happened; followed by such-and-such).
since my dream is a series of images and sounds (not always in chronological sequence), i might actually be trying to express my dream something more like this:
"Hi Cousin Jane - I had a dream last night about that summer we spent at Auntie Anne's, the summer our Uncle got sick, and i realized something important about the family in general i wanted to share with you":
First in my dream:
i looked....and we were kids in the hayloft playing....
and i saw...
then i saw....
and then i looked....
and i saw....
and....
and i heard....
and i saw....
then i saw....
~
that prolly made no sense whatsoever GRA
maybe i need an exter coffee.
want one? large w'shot of espresso.
man, why doesn't Tim's automatically put the cozy on the cup anymore???
like....a paper cup isn't uber-hot???
o.p.p.zone
It makes perfect sense...
I could have written your post...
(with a few differences in our views)
We are far more "in agreement" than you realize...
("Now I bet you are really confused...")
However, there ARE things we can know from the scriptures - based on "the grammar of the language"...
"Keep looking..."
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