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Lanolin

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Wasnt it the jewish people who commited suicide at Masada rather than turn to pagan gods of the Romans. I am wondering what led them to that point. I dont know how they did it, but it wasnt a case of deliberately throwing themselves to the lions.
 

preston39

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[QUOTE="Deade, post: 3995899,.........a chance to know Him in the Great White Throne Judgment. That is when most will have their chance to serve Him.

Now to shineyourlight and everyone else, there will be no human beings being tortured in flames forever. God is not even going to torture Satan forever. Death is death, snuffsville. You cease to be anything. Read my second book "Prophecy Primer for the Twenty-First Century." :cool:[/QUOTE]

WOW...what nonsense.
You better study the Bible. G-d does not play games.
Our chance to qualify for eternal salvation is while we are on this earth....not after.
 

RickyZ

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Wasnt it the jewish people who commited suicide at Masada rather than turn to pagan gods of the Romans. I am wondering what led them to that point. I dont know how they did it, but it wasnt a case of deliberately throwing themselves to the lions.
The fathers killed their families, then drew lots to determine who would kill them. That person then committed suicide. Their position was it was better to be dead than slaves to the Romans.
 

RickyZ

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The miniseries with Peter Otoole is available on Amazon prime. Very interesting.
 

CharliRenee

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All I know is it is heartbreaking. I know for those who are in this deep pain are not thinking clearly. I pray for His revealing in the minds and hearts of those deeply broken. I also pray for the families and friends of those who took this extreme tragic measure.

I know of a young man who loved His Heavenly Father very much, who was actively seeking Him. His mother is very mentally ill and so was he. Unfortunately, one night he surrendered to the pain, instead of God and took his life. I believe God knows his heart and his mental illness and pardoned him. I don't know though. I pray now that his mother finds God's comfort.
 

Deade

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.........a chance to know Him in the Great White Throne Judgment. That is when most will have their chance to serve Him.

Now to shineyourlight and everyone else, there will be no human beings being tortured in flames forever. God is not even going to torture Satan forever. Death is death, snuffsville. You cease to be anything. Read my second book "Prophecy Primer for the Twenty-First Century." :cool:
preston39 said: WOW...what nonsense.
You better study the Bible. G-d does not play games.
Our chance to qualify for eternal salvation is while we are on this earth....not after.
First off, nobody is leaving this earth, at least for another thousand years. Everyone has God's promise to be resurrected. What they are resurrected for: antichrist had hid for the last two thousand years. That is where all our doctrines differ. The devil has you convinced you have a sadistic God and won't let you believe otherwise. 2cool.gif
 

Leastamongmany

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First off, nobody is leaving this earth, at least for another thousand years. Everyone has God's promise to be resurrected. What they are resurrected for: antichrist had hid for the last two thousand years. That is where all our doctrines differ. The devil has you convinced you have a sadistic God and won't let you believe otherwise. View attachment 202690

Are you ok @Deade?
 

Deade

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I am alright, I was just trying to comfort shineyourlight when preston started badmouthing God's GWTJ. I am sure he didn't even read about it before he bat it down nonchalantly. I don't get mad, I just defend God's word. I am in a mood to call a spade a spade when I see one. Hahaha... :giggle:
 

preston39

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All I know is it is heartbreaking. I know for those who are in this deep pain are not thinking clearly. I pray for His revealing in the minds and hearts of those deeply broken. I also pray for the families and friends of those who took this extreme tragic measure.

I know of a young man who loved His Heavenly Father very much, who was actively seeking Him. His mother is very mentally ill and so was he. Unfortunately, one night he surrendered to the pain, instead of God and took his life. I believe God knows his heart and his mental illness and pardoned him. I don't know though. I pray now that his mother finds God's comfort.
G-d will care for the mentally challenged....as with children.
 

RickyZ

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I pray you all pray for me. I've returned to the pit of hell and could use some back-up.
 

Leastamongmany

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I pray you all pray for me. I've returned to the pit of hell and could use some back-up.



Here for you!..... Heavenly Father,You love your children with a love we cannot fathom! You can reach beyond any pit and still there be not enough room to hold You! Take my brother to the ROCK that is higher than we can imagine and set his feet firmly on Your foundation! You are immovable against the forces that come against him and I rebuke them in Your name!Lord surround him under the protection of Your mighty wings! Shelter him in Your comfort and give peace in this storm. You are the same yesterday,today,and FOREVER! We cling to that hope and promise that Your grace is sufficient,and that You will not put more on us than we can bear without a way of escape! Lift him hold him close in Your love. In Jesus name! Amen!
I do pray for your deliverance daily! Cling to Him ,He will bring you thru any storm!
 

Deade

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I am alright, I was just trying to comfort shineyourlight when preston started badmouthing God's GWTJ. I am sure he didn't even read about it before he bat it down nonchalantly. I don't get mad, I just defend God's word. I am in a mood to call a spade a spade when I see one. Hahaha... :giggle:
I am sorry @preston39 for this railing I dumped on you. I was just disappointed of your heaven talk implied by while "on this earth." I just thought a son of Levi would know better. I have a saying: "If someone disappointed you, maybe your expectations were set too high."

I kinda cringe when someone talks "going to heaven" because I don't see scripture saying so. Do not confuse heavenly with heaven. There is a heavenly plane (or dimension) right here on earth. All the holy angels and demons are there. The Kingdom of Heaven will be coming to earth soon. 6cool.png
 

preston39

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First off, nobody is leaving this earth, at least for another thousand years.
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Wrong....there is no scripture which says when G-d will call an end to the current era of mans day, the church age, the day of grace.
But, (since you " stay with G-d's word"........which is highly questionable) you must have a basis....so please show supporting scripture...?
 

Deade

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Wrong....there is no scripture which says when G-d will call an end to the current era of mans day, the church age, the day of grace.
But, (since you " stay with G-d's word"........which is highly questionable) you must have a basis....so please show supporting scripture...?
I am wrong and yet you want me to show you something I said wasn't there. Sorry, I can't show a negative. You show me when it says someone goes to heaven (not the sky). 13Dunno.gif