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Maybe I should call CC my Christian coffeehouse?! (meh. My luck. Also don't like coffee. lol)
Really not a church, but this is about it for like-minded folks for me, apart from hubby. And other than his insistence that it's green eggs, but not green ham, and there are no other inhabited worlds in the entire universe, we agree with each other on most stuff. So, really not rubbing elbows or working at fellowship with him. We agree too often, so don't usually get on each other's nerves. (I say that knowing he's on my nerve today, and yet, probably because I misunderstood something, but have to wait for him to wake up before finding out if he should be on my nerve. lol) Can't really flex the Christian muscles, when we're together so much.
And, I'm all for getting people to put on their big boy/girl pants, however, it's much harder than that to tell if someone is old enough to do that themselves. After all, a 14 year old can be wearing men's pants, and yet a 54 year old might still be wearing diapers, spiritually speaking.
I'm very anti wanting babes in Christ thinking they're in pants, when really they're being told to wear a two-ton truck as pants, yet they just don't know they're being sold a bill of goods for something that isn't even Christian. (Proper eschatology = saving grace. Saving grace = be sinless. Sinless = don't drink, don't dance, don't chew, and spurn the ones who do.
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Really not a church, but this is about it for like-minded folks for me, apart from hubby. And other than his insistence that it's green eggs, but not green ham, and there are no other inhabited worlds in the entire universe, we agree with each other on most stuff. So, really not rubbing elbows or working at fellowship with him. We agree too often, so don't usually get on each other's nerves. (I say that knowing he's on my nerve today, and yet, probably because I misunderstood something, but have to wait for him to wake up before finding out if he should be on my nerve. lol) Can't really flex the Christian muscles, when we're together so much.
And, I'm all for getting people to put on their big boy/girl pants, however, it's much harder than that to tell if someone is old enough to do that themselves. After all, a 14 year old can be wearing men's pants, and yet a 54 year old might still be wearing diapers, spiritually speaking.
I'm very anti wanting babes in Christ thinking they're in pants, when really they're being told to wear a two-ton truck as pants, yet they just don't know they're being sold a bill of goods for something that isn't even Christian. (Proper eschatology = saving grace. Saving grace = be sinless. Sinless = don't drink, don't dance, don't chew, and spurn the ones who do.
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Hello louis,
The "key point" is that the TRUTH is taught because false teachers can teach a LIE "in love."
Here's the difference, JESUS CHRIST IS LORD - HE IS THE SON OF GOD - HE IS GOD IN THE FLESH. Any teacher that does NOT acknowledge Jesus Christ's deity is a false teacher, even if they are speaking "in love."
Also, false teachers try to put us back under the Law of Works, which denies the FINISHED WORK OF JESUS CHRIST FOR OUR SALVATION.
So, we must take heed as to how we hear and what enters into our hearts. Lord, give us ears to hear only what the Spirit is saying and hearts to understand. Amen.
The "key point" is that the TRUTH is taught because false teachers can teach a LIE "in love."
Here's the difference, JESUS CHRIST IS LORD - HE IS THE SON OF GOD - HE IS GOD IN THE FLESH. Any teacher that does NOT acknowledge Jesus Christ's deity is a false teacher, even if they are speaking "in love."
Also, false teachers try to put us back under the Law of Works, which denies the FINISHED WORK OF JESUS CHRIST FOR OUR SALVATION.
So, we must take heed as to how we hear and what enters into our hearts. Lord, give us ears to hear only what the Spirit is saying and hearts to understand. Amen.
Why would someone who loves their brethren willingly choose to preach to them what they are not sure of?
False teachers teach others for motives that are from other than for love for their neighbor.
The reason why some teach others to follow the letter of the law rather than to love ones neighbor (which completes the law according to Romans 13:8 & 10, and Galatians 5:13), is that these individuals are among the goats in Matthew 7:22-23 who upon their resurrection will say to the Lord did we not prophesy in thy name, cast out demons, and do many good works; to whom the Lord will respond: "get away from me, I (love) never knew you...", which is the same to say that these individuals never knew love, who is God (1 John 4:8 & 16).
Romans 13:8 [FONT="]Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
[/FONT]10 [FONT="]Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
[/FONT]Galatians 5:14 [FONT="]For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.[/FONT]
Matthew 7:22 [FONT="]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?[/FONT][FONT="]23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.[/FONT]
[FONT="]16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.[/FONT]
False teachers teach others for motives that are from other than for love for their neighbor.
Here's the difference, JESUS CHRIST IS LORD - HE IS THE SON OF GOD - HE IS GOD IN THE FLESH. Any teacher that does NOT acknowledge Jesus Christ's deity is a false teacher, even if they are speaking "in love."
Also, false teachers try to put us back under the Law of Works, which denies the FINISHED WORK OF JESUS CHRIST FOR OUR SALVATION.
So, we must take heed as to how we hear and what enters into our hearts. Lord, give us ears to hear only what the Spirit is saying and hearts to understand. Amen.
Also, false teachers try to put us back under the Law of Works, which denies the FINISHED WORK OF JESUS CHRIST FOR OUR SALVATION.
So, we must take heed as to how we hear and what enters into our hearts. Lord, give us ears to hear only what the Spirit is saying and hearts to understand. Amen.
Romans 13:8 [FONT="]Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
[/FONT]10 [FONT="]Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
[/FONT]Galatians 5:14 [FONT="]For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.[/FONT]
Matthew 7:22 [FONT="]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?[/FONT][FONT="]23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.[/FONT]
[FONT="]16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.[/FONT]
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RobO is a pastor? Is he nuts? (Just kidding RobO, if you read this.) Sooo, all he does is pastor, raise a family, and power this site. I just got visions of him getting the 48-hour day some of us wish we did have. Pastoring is a 364 hour week. Running this site is a 364 hour week. Let's just skip seeing family on occasion. How does anyone do that?
I have only ever talked to him on live chat once and he is a very kind and compassionate man. He lets his teenage daughters on here so he keeps it perv free as much as he can.
It's why I stick around,
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Lynn....I am taking a class learning how to be a Stephen minister and I think it would be useful to hear what they told us....don't get into the put with them.
And....have good boundaries.
As I said I am a TRAINEE so don't speak for Stephen ministries as a whole or any legal stuff (just to be clear, because apparently the whole issue of being sued is troubling for some people...sigh..,maybe that might be part of my melancholy...the idea folks would sue folks who they ask to help them. Or maybe it's the family members? I don't know it's over my paygrade)
Anyway I will type what I learned today and maybe it will help you?
And....have good boundaries.
As I said I am a TRAINEE so don't speak for Stephen ministries as a whole or any legal stuff (just to be clear, because apparently the whole issue of being sued is troubling for some people...sigh..,maybe that might be part of my melancholy...the idea folks would sue folks who they ask to help them. Or maybe it's the family members? I don't know it's over my paygrade)
Anyway I will type what I learned today and maybe it will help you?
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Signs of boundary problems:
Seems to need the care receiver or the caring relationship to be happy
* take on an unreasonable degree of responsibility for the care receiver's growth and well being
Is very self critical about the care receiver's lack of progress
There are two more but have to get to a meeting.
Have a blessed day.
Seems to need the care receiver or the caring relationship to be happy
* take on an unreasonable degree of responsibility for the care receiver's growth and well being
Is very self critical about the care receiver's lack of progress
There are two more but have to get to a meeting.
Have a blessed day.