The absurdity and heresy of Preterism
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King David, a resurrected prince to rule again on earth?
What chapter in "Aesop's Fables" is that in
What chapter in "Aesop's Fables" is that in
- Ezekiel 34:20-24 My servant David. He shall feed them and be their shepherd.
- Ezekiel 37:25-28 My servant David shall be their prince forever.
- Jeremiah 30:8-10 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up for them.
The phrase "the Israel of God" (Gal6:16) refers to "those of Israel WHO BELIEVED" [or those of Israel WHO WILL BELIEVE].
It is not equivalent to the phrase "the Church which is His body".
IOW, it is not speaking of Gentiles who came/come to faith/believed/believe. It is speaking specifically of "those of Israel WHO BELIEVED/BELIEVE."
It is not equivalent to the phrase "the Church which is His body".
IOW, it is not speaking of Gentiles who came/come to faith/believed/believe. It is speaking specifically of "those of Israel WHO BELIEVED/BELIEVE."
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Christians who unconditionally support the state of Israel do so because they believe they will be cursed by God if they dont. If you add
the US Governments interest in keeping the very influential Jewish voters and fundamentalist Christians on side you have a very toxic mixture to deal with. The most ridiculous option for solving the Jewish/Arab conflict to date is digging a tunnel from the west bank
to Gaza. The real solution is for Israel to leave the occupied territories return to the pre 1967 border and make Jerusalem an
international city. This solution would in my opinion greatly diminish terrorist threats both in Israel and internationally. Lastly
Arab people are human beings that for the most part want a peacful secure life as we all do.
the US Governments interest in keeping the very influential Jewish voters and fundamentalist Christians on side you have a very toxic mixture to deal with. The most ridiculous option for solving the Jewish/Arab conflict to date is digging a tunnel from the west bank
to Gaza. The real solution is for Israel to leave the occupied territories return to the pre 1967 border and make Jerusalem an
international city. This solution would in my opinion greatly diminish terrorist threats both in Israel and internationally. Lastly
Arab people are human beings that for the most part want a peacful secure life as we all do.
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That is totally FALSE. And your idea is refuted in Revelation 7. Furthermore, the land of Israel was never promised to the Church, since the New Jerusalem is the eternal home of the Church.
REDEEMED ISRAEL: A MICROCOSM IN THE 144,000 FROM THE 12 TRIBES
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there weresealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses weresealed twelve thousand.
7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin weresealed twelve thousand.
THE CHURCH: FROM ALL NATIONS, KINDREDS, PEOPLE, AND TONGUES
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
This one chapter effectively refutes Replacement Theology. But the entire book of Ezekiel refutes it also. And there are numerous other passages throughout Scripture.
REDEEMED ISRAEL: A MICROCOSM IN THE 144,000 FROM THE 12 TRIBES
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there weresealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses weresealed twelve thousand.
7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin weresealed twelve thousand.
THE CHURCH: FROM ALL NATIONS, KINDREDS, PEOPLE, AND TONGUES
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
This one chapter effectively refutes Replacement Theology. But the entire book of Ezekiel refutes it also. And there are numerous other passages throughout Scripture.
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The Jerusalem Jesus knew was flattened and ploughed over by the Romans. A pagan city replaced it. Much of what we see now was built in the fourth century by order of Constantine and his Mother. Jerusalem today is a sort of Holy Disney land where you can visit places
like the ''upper room''. There are places outside Jerusalem that are more authentic. We visited Capernaum where the remains of first
century houses and the foundations of the Synagogue mentioned in the gospels have been unearthed. On the wall of one of the houses the Christian sign of the fish was discovered. Its speculated that Peter may have lived there. A Catholic church has been built on a platform above them. We also went to Caesarea and Jericho.
like the ''upper room''. There are places outside Jerusalem that are more authentic. We visited Capernaum where the remains of first
century houses and the foundations of the Synagogue mentioned in the gospels have been unearthed. On the wall of one of the houses the Christian sign of the fish was discovered. Its speculated that Peter may have lived there. A Catholic church has been built on a platform above them. We also went to Caesarea and Jericho.
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You Jew worshipers are killing me. You guys always twist scripture to fit your dispensational heresy. Seriously do you guys fear God at all! Do you think it's "OK" with God that you totally ignore the words of God and CHANGE them to your words.
Look at what you did. "All Israel" doesn't really mean "All Israel", what it REALLY MEANS is (TWIST) "all believing Israel". Why does it mean that? Because it fits your theology. How do you call that TRUE RELIGION.
I don't know why I waste my time discussing a book of truth with people who reject the truth." All Israel" means All of Israel, saved Jews (Spiritual Israel) and saved Gentiles (Spiritual Israel).... ALL Israel shall be saved, just like the verse you twisted said![/QUOTE]
Look at what you did. "All Israel" doesn't really mean "All Israel", what it REALLY MEANS is (TWIST) "all believing Israel". Why does it mean that? Because it fits your theology. How do you call that TRUE RELIGION.
I don't know why I waste my time discussing a book of truth with people who reject the truth." All Israel" means All of Israel, saved Jews (Spiritual Israel) and saved Gentiles (Spiritual Israel).... ALL Israel shall be saved, just like the verse you twisted said![/QUOTE]
