The BAC must endure in the faith to the end of life to be saved

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
A

AtonedFor

Guest
#101
#101
ChristIsGod said:
AtonedFor wrote: There will come a time soon when ...
some real BACs will choose to be disobedient and take the mark of the beast.

Just the black lines, Brother. A "real" BAC will never take the mark. Hope you know that.
Click to expand...
Sorry, I got messed up in semantics!

God's elect, whom I define as those described in Romans 8:28-30,
will NOT take the mark (and be lost).

But, IMO, some who are BACs WILL take the mark of the beast (and be lost).

As I told Elin, there must be 2 groups of BACs, IMO.

Further with this ...
Are the verses threatening loss of eternal life (something they already have)
written to the unsaved?
No, that does not make any sense, and it would be a waste of time!
 
Last edited by a moderator:
S

Sophia

Guest
#102
#102
AtonedFor said:
Sorry, I got messed up in semantics!

God's elect, whom I define as those described in Romans 8:28-30,
will NOT take the mark (and be lost).

But, IMO, some who are BACs WILL take the mark of the beast (and be lost).

As I told Elin, there must be 2 groups of BACs, IMO.

Further with this ...
Are the verses threatening loss of eternal life (something they already have)
written to the unsaved?
No, that does not make any sense, and it would be a waste of time!
Click to expand...
On that idea of "wasting time", does God ever waste His time? Nope. All things work to His Plan and to His Glory. So does He give new birth to people, and then allow them to waste His time and efforts by them aborting their spiritual selves? If they are reborn, then they will not be lost, because they are no longer their own to lose. God doesn't save people to then unsaved them later. It's not something earned in the first place.

There are two categories of people who call themselves Christians (or BAC, or Believers), but God's salvation doesn't rest on how we label ourselves, but on whether or not we were elected unto Belief. "If it were possible, even the elect would be deceived", but praise God it is NOT possible. Only those fooling themselves will be fooled.

Perseverance is from the Spirit, and out of love, because He first loved us. We can't judge the heart, BUT GOD SURELY WILL! We can fool those around us into believing that we have Faith, and we can even fool ourselves into thinking we have Faith, BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL GOD. He knows His Sheep, and keeps His Sheep, and will not lose a single one.

If we have Faith, we will express Faith through faithfulness, resulting in Good works and the fruit of the Spirit.
Yes, we must endure, and if we are in Christ, then we WILL endure. No one who has been adopted shall be disowned, and no Bride will be divorced... either He knows you... or He NEVER knew you. There is no "BAC" who will be forgotten about on the Last Day... only those who pretended to be "BAC" that will have a rude realization of where their belief was truly placed, and who they had actually been serving.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
A

AtonedFor

Guest
#103
#103
Sophia said:
There are two categories of people who call themselves Christians (or BAC, or Believers),
but God's salvation doesn't rest on how we label ourselves, but on whether or not we were elected unto Belief.
If we have Faith, we will express Faith through faithfulness, resulting in Good works and the fruit of the Spirit. Yes, we must endure, and if we are in Christ, then we WILL endure.
No one who has been adopted shall be disowned, and no Bride will be divorced
... either He knows you... or He NEVER knew you.
There is no "BAC" who will be forgotten about on the Last Day
... only those who pretended to be "BAC" that will have a rude realization of where their belief was truly placed, and who they had actually been serving.
Click to expand...
Yes, and Andrew Murray has been making it clearer to me.
He explains:
Those who truly are BACs are Christ's sheep
... they will practice obedience, righteousness, and will endure.
Those who merely think they are BACs are the tares.

These 2 groups are quite indistinguishable to almost everyone.
Having the gift of spiritual discernment can help to separate them.
"By their fruits will you know them" can also help to separate them.

But, who are the many dozens of warnings written to?
I believe it was Erin who said they are there to help the true BAC walk the walk.

Note: there are several reasons why God keeps all of this quite hidden indeed!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.