The Believers and The Bride of Christ...The Navy and The Navy Seals...

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Lafftur

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Ever ask God if there is a difference between a Believer and The Bride of Christ?

I have. The answer I got was.... “All Navy soldiers are Navy soldiers but, are all Navy Seals?”

The seven letters in chapters 2 and 3 of Revelation are calling to The Bride from among all Believers.....

All Believers receive salvation and various rewards but, are all the Bride of Christ?

The Bride must endure and overcome everything written in those seven letters. She will pass through the fiery furnace 7 times.....

Don’t be dismayed if other Christians seem to have hardly any trials and you so often feel overwhelmed, forgotten or abandoned.... remember that the Navy Seal must suffer more and overcome more.

All is well. You shall be what God has created you to be, in the Name of Yeshua/Jesus, amen. :love:(y)
 
JohnRH

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Lafftur said:
Ever ask God if there is a difference between a Believer and The Bride of Christ?

I have. The answer I got was.... “All Navy soldiers are Navy soldiers but, are all Navy Seals?”

The seven letters in chapters 2 and 3 of Revelation are calling to The Bride from among all Believers.....

All Believers receive salvation and various rewards but, are all the Bride of Christ?

The Bride must endure and overcome everything written in those seven letters. She will pass through the fiery furnace 7 times.....

Don’t be dismayed if other Christians seem to have hardly any trials and you so often feel overwhelmed, forgotten or abandoned.... remember that the Navy Seal must suffer more and overcome more.

All is well. You shall be what God has created you to be, in the Name of Yeshua/Jesus, amen. :love:(y)
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The word "bride" doesn't occur in Revelation chapters 2&3. Neither does the word "believer(s)".
The bride of Christ consists of all believers and only believers. It's not an elite group of believers.
 
stonesoffire

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JohnRH said:
The word "bride" doesn't occur in Revelation chapters 2&3. Neither does the word "believer(s)".
The bride of Christ consists of all believers and only believers. It's not an elite group of believers.
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Holy Spirit spoke this to her. I don't doubt this one bit.
 
stonesoffire

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Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

This is not the only one.

And then....the Spirit and the Bride say come.
 
Melach

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stonesoffire said:
Holy Spirit spoke this to her. I don't doubt this one bit.
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unfortunately this spirit isnt aware that all true believers are part of the body of Christ, the bride of Christ, the saved. there is no saved and supersaved.

this is the same mistake of the people who teach some people have 50% Holy Spirit and some have 100% and you need to get 'filled' with the Spirit after you've been saved for a decade.... either you have it, or not. there is no inbetween.

i will stick with what the bible teaches rather than extra-biblical revelations.

if you arent in the body of Christ you arent saved and no reward is coming. be not deceived
 
posthuman

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stonesoffire said:
Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

This is not the only one.

And then....the Spirit and the Bride say come.
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Who is 'thee' in this passage?

Believers?
 
posthuman

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Ephesians 5:25-27
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to Himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.


Is this a misprint?

Is it supposed to say He only gave Himself for the 'special-forces-believers'?

Did He only cleanse the super-christians to present them to Himself?

What do the rest of us do for eternity? Be jealous?
 
posthuman

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Lafftur said:
You shall be what God has created you to be
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Isaiah 54:5-6
".. For your Maker is your husband— the LORD Almighty is His name— the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer; He is called the God of all the earth. The LORD will call you back as if you were a wife deserted and distressed in spirit— a wife who married young, only to be rejected," says your God.
 
posthuman

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There's a song that goes, "wish i was special; you're so #### special.. "

... but i'm a creep...

smh
 
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I served in the US Army with the 101st Airborne Division and that was no picnic either. For sure though, the Navy Seals are an elite fighting force.
 
posthuman

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posthuman said:
The Bridegroom says

Behold!​
I am coming quickly! ​
(Revelation 22:12)​
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so who are the Spirit and the bride talking to, saying "come" ?

is this the 'super-special-forces-saved' talking to the 'ordinary grunt' saved?

or is it 'not only me, but all those who love His appearing' saying this as we are 'looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day' ?
 
posthuman

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tourist said:
I served in the US Army with the 101st Airborne Division and that was no picnic either. For sure though, the Navy Seals are an elite fighting force.
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join with me in suffering, like a good soldier of Christ Jesus​
(2 Timothy 2:3)​
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♥ ​
 
Lafftur

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I've enjoyed all your comments and everyone is free to believe according to their faith so, no need to be upset.

I just often ponder and ask the Lord a lot of questions during the day..............

Why did Yeshua/Jesus on rare secret healings and mt. of transfiguration only take with Him Peter, James and John. There were 12 disciples yet, He would only take those same three.

In the Song of Solomon, the Shulamite searches for her Beloved and speaks to the virgins and daughters of Jerusalem - virgins and daughters of Jerusalem are clean and holy yet, they are not the Shulamite.

All believers are called into the Kingdom of God but, I do not believe that all are the Bride of Christ. In the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, not all those in attendance are the Bride but, all have been called to the Supper, to the celebration.

Yeshua/Jesus spoke a parable......

Matthew 22 King James Version (KJV)
22 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,

2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

When Yeshua/Jesus told this parable, I believe He was speaking of the Marriage Supper of the Lamb that His Father was preparing for His Son. Notice in the parable there are guests that are given a wedding garment to wear to the marriage but, they are not the bride.

The Marriage of the Lamb is discussed in Revelation 19.

Revelation 19:7-9 King James Version (KJV)
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

If all believers are saved by grace, why does Yeshua/Jesus in the seven letters of Revelation Ch. 2 and 3 speak to us about doing works to overcome and receive special rewards and if we don't overcome there is a consequence?

We know that we are saved by grace. I do not believe that any true believer loses their salvation. Why do those letters mandate that we overcome?

These 7 letters are calling the Bride. The Bridegroom is calling for His Bride....... The Bride will hear the voice of her Beloved.......... and make haste! :love:(y)

No one is more special than the other.......I'm simply saying that if when you read the 7 letters and you hear what the Spirit is saying, do it! :D(y)
 
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