The Best Church for You - By Brother James L. Melton

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ChosenbyHim

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The Best Church for You

20 Questions to Ask before Joining Any Church

By Brother James L. Melton


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[TD="bgcolor: #CCFFFF"]Do you attend church services regularly? Are you a member of a church? If so, why? Over the years, I have learned that most church goers are going to all the wrong churches for all the wrong reasons. "My wife likes it there," one says. Another says, "We have always went there." "They have a good youth program." "My kid's friends go there." "Well, that's just where most people go." "My boyfriend goes there." "They have a large nursery." "I get to sing in the choir." "I teach a Sunday school class." "I like the preacher."
Every reason given above is an UNSCRIPTURAL reason. God never told you to attend "the church of your choice." The devil told you that. God's word is supposed to be your Final Authority in life. God's word is your measuring stick. With God's word you can discern which church is the best church.
The primary issue in choosing a church is DOCTRINE. What does the church believe? No matter how many exciting "programs" the church may have, if they do not believe the right things, then you have no business attending or joining. You are to attend the church of GOD'S CHOICE, not the church of your choice.
Before joining any church, ask for a Statement of Faith and check it carefully. If one is not available, at least speak with the Pastor personally and get answers to the following questions. This concerns YOUR spiritual well- being. You have every right to ask questions. In fact, a genuine Bible-believing Pastor will appreciate you asking doctrinal questions.
The answer to every question should be a very definite "Yes." If the answer is "No" or "I'm not sure," then keep looking because there are better churches to join. A "Yes" answer to each question doesn't guarantee that the church in question will be the best one for you, but it does help you to guard yourself from many of the heresies in our midst.[/TD]
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I.
Do you believe God has preserved an infallible copy of His word for us today? Psalm 12:6-7; Mat. 24:35

II.
Do you believe the King James Bible is God's infallible word for the English speaking people? If the answer is "No," then ask "What is God's infallible word? Can I see a copy?" See question I.

III.
Do you believe that God is a Holy Trinity, consisting of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? I John 5:7; Mat. 28:19

IV.
Do you believe that the Lord Jesus Christ was born of a virgin, without a man being involved, and lived a sinless life for thirty-three years as God manifest in the flesh? Isa. 7:14; Mat. 1:23; I Tim. 3:16

V.
Do you believe that the Lord Jesus Christ died and paid for our sins on Calvary's cross through the shedding of His own sinless blood? Mat. 26:28; Heb. 9:22; I Tim. 2:5-6; Heb. 10:10- 14; Rom. 5; Rev. 1:5

VI.
Do you believe that the Lord Jesus Christ rose physically from the dead for our justification? Rom. 1:4; I Cor. 15:1-4; Rom. 10:9-10; Rev. 1:5; Luke 24:36-39

VII.
Do you believe that the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, currently sits at the right hand of God the Father as our High Priest? Heb. 3:1; 4:14-15; 8:1; 10:21

VIII.
Do you believe that the Holy Spirit is a Divine Person who convicts the world of sin, righteousness, and judgment? John 16:7-15; 14:15-17

IX.
Do you believe that the Holy Spirit is the Supernatural Agent in regeneration, baptizing all believers into the body of Christ? I Cor. 12:13; Mat. 3:11

X.
Do you believe that the apostolic sign gifts of the Holy Spirit, such as speaking in tongues and the gift of healing, are not for today, since they were for the purpose of confirming the preached word of God to Israel in the first century? Heb. 2:3-4; II Cor. 12:12; I Cor. 13:8; 1:22; 14:22

XI.
Do you believe that all men are born with a sin nature, and that salvation through Christ is needful for all? Rom. 3:10-23; 5:12; 5:8; Isa. 64:6; Psa. 39:5; 51:5; John 3:16; Rom. 10:9-10

XII.
Do you believe in the eternal security of those who have received Christ as Saviour? Eph. 4:30; John 10:28-29; Rom. 8:38-39; Philip. 1:6

XIII.
Do you believe that the church is the bride of Christ, consisting of all born-again believers? Eph. 5:25-32; Rev. 19:7-8; 21:9

XIV.
Do you believe in the autonomy of the local church? It functions alone without any external administration or control. There are no conventions, associations, or hierarchies mentioned in the Bible.

XV.
Do you recognize water baptism and the Lord's Supper as Scriptural ordinances of obedience for the church? Mat. 28:18-20; Acts 8:37-38; Mat. 26:26-30; I Cor. 11:23-34

XVI.
Do you agree that the majority of professing Christianity is in apostasy, and that true Christians need to practice Biblical separation from such people? II Tim. 3:1-7; II Ths. 2:3; II Cor. 6:14-18; II Tim. 2:20-21

XVII.
Do you believe in the literal, physical, imminent Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ? Luke 12:40; Tit. 2:13; Acts 1:11; Rev. 19:11-16; 22:20

XVIII.
Do you believe in a literal glorious New Jerusalem for the saved, and in a literal burning Hell for the lost? Rev. 21; 20:15; Mat. 25:41; Luke 16:19-31; John 14:1-3; Gal. 4:26

IXX.
Do you believe that Satan is a literal living being who opposes God, and who will be condemned to eternal punishment in the Lake of Fire? Rev. 12:9; Isa. 14:12-15; Ezk. 28:13-17; Job 1:6-12; Rev. 20:10

XX.
Do you believe in the literal word-for-word Genesis account of creation? Gen. 1-2; Mat. 19:4; Mark 13:19; John 1:1-3; Heb. 1:1-3; Col. 1:16



What is the Church Doing?
In addition to finding out what a church believes, you should also find out what a church is doing. Many churches believe all the right things, yet they are little more than social clubs. A New Testament church should be a working group of Christian soldiers who strive for three primary goals:


(1) The evangelization of sinners. Lost people need the Gospel, and it is the local church's duty to give it to them. Don't join a church where regular efforts are not being made to turn sinners to Christ. This may be done by door-to-door soul winning, street preaching, tract distribution, jail ministries, nursing home ministries, etc. (Acts 20:20; Luke 14:23)


(2) The edification of the saints. Christians need to grow from the word of God. Don't join a church where such activities as chili suppers, donkey rides, hay rides, skating parties and ball games have taken the place of God's word. The sound preaching and teaching of God's word will produce mature Christian ladies and gentlemen who can go on to live Christ honoring lives. Activities alone will produce carnal babies who will hinder the spiritual growth of the church. (I Peter 2:2)


(3) The glorification of the Saviour. Jesus Christ is the head of the church, and He deserves all the glory. Beware of churches which spend lots of time boasting about their attendance, their ministries, or their offerings. Look for Jesus Christ in a church. If you don't see Him real quick, then look for a better church.(Col. 1:14-18; John 16:13-14)
Also, keep in mind that the size of a church is very seldom an indication of its strength. More often than not, the largest churches in a town are the deadest churches in town. By contrast, there are many small churches which God is using mightily. Never make a decision about a church based solely on its size.
 
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I have stopped going to church. I probably only go there once a year. I don't find what I need in church. I don't believe in some of these preachers. When I go to church I want to hear a real sermon, a good one that is. If the preacher happens to be wise and funny it would be a bonus to me. I'm tired with all these doctrines some of them preach about. When they started to mix the sermon with politics, that's it...I'm done! Instead of finding the truth from the right ones, I learned the scriptures by myself, interpreted them as what I like, because that's what I wanted to believe, it's horrible I know. I almost lost my faith years back. I even considered myself an atheist. My past made me lose hope. Going to Catholic schools for 9 years and a Protestant college didn't change my life. I don't want to go to church because of routinity. I want to go to church because I want to hear God speak. This is my struggle.
 

ChosenbyHim

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I have stopped going to church. I probably only go there once a year. I don't find what I need in church. I don't believe in some of these preachers. When I go to church I want to hear a real sermon, a good one that is. If the preacher happens to be wise and funny it would be a bonus to me. I'm tired with all these doctrines some of them preach about. When they started to mix the sermon with politics, that's it...I'm done! Instead of finding the truth from the right ones, I learned the scriptures by myself, interpreted them as what I like, because that's what I wanted to believe, it's horrible I know. I almost lost my faith years back. I even considered myself an atheist. My past made me lose hope. Going to Catholic schools for 9 years and a Protestant college didn't change my life. I don't want to go to church because of routinity. I want to go to church because I want to hear God speak. This is my struggle.
Hello there LadyOscar,

at least you are being honest.

Of course you do know that we are supposed to allow the Scriptures to interpret themselves.


13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. - 1 Corinthians 2:13 (Holy Bible)


Now I noticed you said that you want to hear real sermon. I will give you a sermon that I encourage you to listen to, it is a very good sermon. I am going to post a separate thread for it in the Bible Discussion Forum. But again, I highly encourage you to listen to this sermon. It is a very powerful sermon preached by Dr. Lester Roloff.


Lester Roloff - Loving Right & Hating Wrong


[video=youtube;sBt9RkAWvN0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBt9RkAWvN0[/video]



Now LadyOscar, I also noticed that you said that you went to Catholic school for nine years. Let me ask you Ladyoscar, have you ever trusted the Lord Jesus Christ as your Personal Lord and Saviour?

If you were to die tonight are you 100% certain and confident that you would be in Heaven with the Lord Jesus Christ?
 
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Hello there LadyOscar,

at least you are being honest.

Of course you do know that we are supposed to allow the Scriptures to interpret themselves.


13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. - 1 Corinthians 2:13 (Holy Bible)


Now I noticed you said that you want to hear real sermon. I will give you a sermon that I encourage you to listen to, it is a very good sermon. I am going to post a separate thread for it in the Bible Discussion Forum. But again, I highly encourage you to listen to this sermon. It is a very powerful sermon preached by Dr. Lester Roloff.


Lester Roloff - Loving Right & Hating Wrong


[video=youtube;sBt9RkAWvN0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBt9RkAWvN0[/video]



Now LadyOscar, I also noticed that you said that you went to Catholic school for nine years. Let me ask you Ladyoscar, have you ever trusted the Lord Jesus Christ as your Personal Lord and Saviour?

If you were to die tonight are you 100% certain and confident that you would be in Heaven with the Lord Jesus Christ?
Thank you so much! :) My 1st time of listening this sermon. I am not American so I don't relate much to this drinking issue but I agree with the Bible teaching concept in school. I experienced that before. It helps kids at some points though it didn't affect me much back then. I was so numb, those years of Bible classes only felt like routinity.

To answer your question, I'm not so sure. I believe in Jesus Christ but I don't think I trust Him enough to allow Him into my heart to change me into a better person, to be my personal Lord and Saviour. I want Him to but I feel like I'm holding something against Him and I just can't let go. So yes, I'm not that 100% certain and confident.
 

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Thank you so much! :) My 1st time of listening this sermon. I am not American so I don't relate much to this drinking issue but I agree with the Bible teaching concept in school. I experienced that before. It helps kids at some points though it didn't affect me much back then. I was so numb, those years of Bible classes only felt like routinity.

To answer your question, I'm not so sure. I believe in Jesus Christ but I don't think I trust Him enough to allow Him into my heart to change me into a better person, to be my personal Lord and Saviour. I want Him to but I feel like I'm holding something against Him and I just can't let go. So yes, I'm not that 100% certain and confident.
Absolutely Ladyoscar, you are welcome. Anytime :)

I am glad that you enjoyed Brother Lester Roloff's Sermon, that is wonderful :)
Well I will let you know LadyOscar, that you can be 100% sure and confident that you are going to Heaven once you die. Some people refer to it as assurance of salvation.


1 John 5:10-14 KJV
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. [11] And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. [12] He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. [13] These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. [14] And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:


You see LadyOscar, we can indeed know that we are saved and going to Heaven. That is how God wants it to be.

So it sounds like to me Ladyoscar, that you are just not sure whether there was a genuine time in your life where you did repent and come to God as a sinner and accepted Him and believed on Him.

Now let me ask you LadyOscar, would you like to be able to know that if you were to die, that you are going to heaven beyond a shadow of a doubt?
 
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Absolutely Ladyoscar, you are welcome. Anytime :)

I am glad that you enjoyed Brother Lester Roloff's Sermon, that is wonderful :)
Well I will let you know LadyOscar, that you can be 100% sure and confident that you are going to Heaven once you die. Some people refer to it as assurance of salvation.


1 John 5:10-14 KJV
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. [11] And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. [12] He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. [13] These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. [14] And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:


You see LadyOscar, we can indeed know that we are saved and going to Heaven. That is how God wants it to be.

So it sounds like to me Ladyoscar, that you are just not sure whether there was a genuine time in your life where you did repent and come to God as a sinner and accepted Him and believed on Him.

Now let me ask you LadyOscar, would you like to be able to know that if you were to die, that you are going to heaven beyond a shadow of a doubt?
You mean just by trusting Him I'm going to heaven? Or do I have to do what He's told all us to do first? That's going to be difficult for me. I consider myself as a sinner, no matter how many times I do good deeds. I feel like my good deeds would never be enough to erase all the sins I've made. I made sins out of anger. Some people probably would never consider them as crimes but still I keep having this guilt and it's ruining me. I keep this anger especially towards my parents ever since I was a kid. I feel very guilty for treating them bad now that I am older but sometimes they gave me no choice but to hate them. This anger has ruined my relationship with my parents and friends. There were times I couldn't control it. It's easier to hate than to love. I'm trying to change though. Doubt is my middle name so yes, I'd like to be able to know that I'm going to heaven beyond a shadow of doubt. :eek:
 

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You mean just by trusting Him I'm going to heaven? Or do I have to do what He's told all us to do first? That's going to be difficult for me. I consider myself as a sinner, no matter how many times I do good deeds. I feel like my good deeds would never be enough to erase all the sins I've made. I made sins out of anger. Some people probably would never consider them as crimes but still I keep having this guilt and it's ruining me. I keep this anger especially towards my parents ever since I was a kid. I feel very guilty for treating them bad now that I am older but sometimes they gave me no choice but to hate them. This anger has ruined my relationship with my parents and friends. There were times I couldn't control it. It's easier to hate than to love. I'm trying to change though. Doubt is my middle name so yes, I'd like to be able to know that I'm going to heaven beyond a shadow of doubt. :eek:
Well that is a start LadyOscar.

And you are right in regard to not being able to do anything to erase all your old past sins. Only one person can erase your old past sins away and that and is God.

In Christianity it is either done or not done. In all religions on the earth, it is you have to Do this and you have to Do that.

In Christianity, it has already been done. All we have to do is accept the free gift of salvation which God the Father offers through His son Jesus Christ.

You see LadyOscar, we cannot do anything of our own efforts to earn or inherit salvation. The best that a man can do will land him flat on his back in Hell.

It is only through the grace and mercy of God, and through the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ that we can receive salvation.

Also LadyOscar, the difficult part is over. Because you already see yourself as a sinner. You have acknowledged the fact that you are a sinner. And that is the very first step towards New Testament Salvation. Repentance must come Before Belief.

So now here is how you can know for sure LadyOscar that if you were to die tonight, that you would be in Heaven with the Lord beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Again, the first step is to come to God as a sinner seeking His mercy. It seems to me that you already have a repentant heart, seeing that you are remorseful over the past sins which you have done in your life. So the hard part is over. In terms of salvation, the only difficult thing or aspect to it is repentance. After you have repented, then comes the easy part. And that is simply trusting and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Believing on Him for salvation.

And how you can go about this process is by praying a prayer similar to this one:

Dear LORD God,

I come to you in the Name of Jesus, and I come to you with a broken heart, realizing that there is nothing which I could do to earn Heaven. I understand that your Son Jesus Christ came to this Earth about 2,000 years ago and that He died on the Cross of Calvary by shedding His precious blood for my sins and for the sins of all mankind that whosoever would come to Him for salvation that He would in no wise cast out. And so I come to you today Lord, asking for mercy and for forgiveness. I know I am a lost sinner on the road to Hell and that you are my only hope to escape the eternal fires of Hell. So I ask you Lord Jesus to save me. To cleanse me from all unrighteousness. And to wash away all my sins. I thank you Father that I am now a child of yours. A child of Heaven. Thank you Lord Jesus for saving me. Amen.

Now if you prayed that prayer or a prayer similar to that one, and if you meant it with your heart, then you are saved LadyOscar. And you can know for certain that you are going to Heaven when you die.


10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: - 1 John 5:10-14 (King James Bible)



Also LadyOscar, let me ask you do you have a Bible by any chance?

And do you and your parents attend a church already?
 

ChosenbyHim

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You mean just by trusting Him I'm going to heaven? Or do I have to do what He's told all us to do first? That's going to be difficult for me. I consider myself as a sinner, no matter how many times I do good deeds. I feel like my good deeds would never be enough to erase all the sins I've made. I made sins out of anger. Some people probably would never consider them as crimes but still I keep having this guilt and it's ruining me. I keep this anger especially towards my parents ever since I was a kid. I feel very guilty for treating them bad now that I am older but sometimes they gave me no choice but to hate them. This anger has ruined my relationship with my parents and friends. There were times I couldn't control it. It's easier to hate than to love. I'm trying to change though. Doubt is my middle name so yes, I'd like to be able to know that I'm going to heaven beyond a shadow of doubt. :eek:

Furthermore, you see LadyOscar, salvation is very simple :)

The hard part is always repentance. Many people do not get saved because they understand that Salvation means a changed life. They understand after they get saved, that would mean they would have to give up going to the bars, they would have to stop fornicating, and they would have to stop stealing or whatever else the sin may be. Lost people understand that they would have to change their way of living if they become a Christian. And that is why most of them never get saved.

And what is sad is that a lot of ministries that are out there totally leave out repentance when it comes to evangelizing the lost.

Whenever you are dealing with a lost soul, it is very, very important to make sure they understand that repentance is necessary for salvation. And that they know that once they get saved, they will have to live differently. They will have to change and give up their old way of living, which was a life of serving divers lusts and sins in times past.

See, lost people understand that. And it is so unfortunate that they allow some petty sins and some pleasure to stop them from getting saved.
 
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This isn't about what is the best church for me,
but what JAMES L. MELTON thinks is the best church for me...

and for himself obviously.
 

homwardbound

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best place for me to worship and be is, and is waht we are called to for his kingdom is not here of this earth, and we are to worship in Spirit not flesh

[h=3]Hebrews 8:1-4[/h]New International Version (NIV)

[h=3]The High Priest of a New Covenant[/h]8 Now the main point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, [SUP]2 [/SUP]and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by a mere human being.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices, and so it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer. [SUP]4 [/SUP]If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests who offer the gifts prescribed by the law.

John 4:23
Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
John 4:24God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
John 14:17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

So what are we scalled to choose Flkesh or the Spirit of God? And Christ was raised in the Spirit of God and so are we not to be the same dead to carnal nature thoughts and alive to God by the resurrection hmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wonder do you
 

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Furthermore, you see LadyOscar, salvation is very simple :)

The hard part is always repentance. Many people do not get saved because they understand that Salvation means a changed life. They understand after they get saved, that would mean they would have to give up going to the bars, they would have to stop fornicating, and they would have to stop stealing or whatever else the sin may be. Lost people understand that they would have to change their way of living if they become a Christian. And that is why most of them never get saved.

And what is sad is that a lot of ministries that are out there totally leave out repentance when it comes to evangelizing the lost.

Whenever you are dealing with a lost soul, it is very, very important to make sure they understand that repentance is necessary for salvation. And that they know that once they get saved, they will have to live differently. They will have to change and give up their old way of living, which was a life of serving divers lusts and sins in times past.

See, lost people understand that. And it is so unfortunate that they allow some petty sins and some pleasure to stop them from getting saved.
well I see it this way, after being sorry for mny sinful ways and I ask for salvation from God through christ, I recieve it from God right then and there it is done. God did it all

Romans 3:21[ Righteousness Through Faith ] But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify.

Romans 3:22This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile,
Romans 3:27Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith.
Romans 3:28For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

So it is not for me to stop it is for God for me to agree with God that my nature that I repented of is not good for me. therfore I quit going to bars as in being a drunkard, I quit fornicating, from hurting myself and others, all in agreeing with God that this new life is better for me than that old one that only gave temporary satisfaction
So in essence I by Faith in God's cross, I give up what I think I need at the moment for what I need in the long run
Hope that helps in ones new walk, God and you having a personal relationship, seeing all things from God'soint of view, reneweing our minds to God's truth, looking through and from God's vantage point, that teaches us to say no to harming self or anyone else
 
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Well that is a start LadyOscar.

And you are right in regard to not being able to do anything to erase all your old past sins. Only one person can erase your old past sins away and that and is God.

In Christianity it is either done or not done. In all religions on the earth, it is you have to Do this and you have to Do that.

In Christianity, it has already been done. All we have to do is accept the free gift of salvation which God the Father offers through His son Jesus Christ.

You see LadyOscar, we cannot do anything of our own efforts to earn or inherit salvation. The best that a man can do will land him flat on his back in Hell.

It is only through the grace and mercy of God, and through the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ that we can receive salvation.

Also LadyOscar, the difficult part is over. Because you already see yourself as a sinner. You have acknowledged the fact that you are a sinner. And that is the very first step towards New Testament Salvation. Repentance must come Before Belief.

So now here is how you can know for sure LadyOscar that if you were to die tonight, that you would be in Heaven with the Lord beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Again, the first step is to come to God as a sinner seeking His mercy. It seems to me that you already have a repentant heart, seeing that you are remorseful over the past sins which you have done in your life. So the hard part is over. In terms of salvation, the only difficult thing or aspect to it is repentance. After you have repented, then comes the easy part. And that is simply trusting and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Believing on Him for salvation.

And how you can go about this process is by praying a prayer similar to this one:

Dear LORD God,

I come to you in the Name of Jesus, and I come to you with a broken heart, realizing that there is nothing which I could do to earn Heaven. I understand that your Son Jesus Christ came to this Earth about 2,000 years ago and that He died on the Cross of Calvary by shedding His precious blood for my sins and for the sins of all mankind that whosoever would come to Him for salvation that He would in no wise cast out. And so I come to you today Lord, asking for mercy and for forgiveness. I know I am a lost sinner on the road to Hell and that you are my only hope to escape the eternal fires of Hell. So I ask you Lord Jesus to save me. To cleanse me from all unrighteousness. And to wash away all my sins. I thank you Father that I am now a child of yours. A child of Heaven. Thank you Lord Jesus for saving me. Amen.

Now if you prayed that prayer or a prayer similar to that one, and if you meant it with your heart, then you are saved LadyOscar. And you can know for certain that you are going to Heaven when you die.


10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: - 1 John 5:10-14 (King James Bible)



Also LadyOscar, let me ask you do you have a Bible by any chance?

And do you and your parents attend a church already?
Once again thank you. For the prayer and the good advices. They're all I need to comfort my soul. I do have my Bible, the one given by my father when he sent me to college 11 years ago. But don't get me wrong. He's way far from a good Christian. He barely goes to church, my mother does. My mother is the one I call a believer. She's the epitome of a good Christian. She's probably the only one in the family I know who prays for me and for everyone every single day and I thank God for that.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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several of these questions...if asked in the affirmative...would indicate that the church is a cult...

also i noticed that the questions about the king james version came before questions about the trinity...the incarnation...salvation...and so on...

this is what we call 'mixed up priorities'...another common characteristic of cults...
 

Nautilus

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lol at question number 2. An affirmative to that usually means im in the wrong church.
 

ChosenbyHim

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lol at question number 2. An affirmative to that usually means im in the wrong church.
Well why would anyone want to go to a church that does not preach the word of God?

Any church that stops preaching the Authorized King James Version, that same church becomes apostate.
 

ChosenbyHim

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several of these questions...if asked in the affirmative...would indicate that the church is a cult...

also i noticed that the questions about the king james version came before questions about the trinity...the incarnation...salvation...and so on...

this is what we call 'mixed up priorities'...another common characteristic of cults...
No Rachel. It is called having the right priorities in the right place. Where do we get Doctrine from? The Bible.

If we did not have God's word, then we would be clueless about important doctrines such as: salvation by grace through faith alone, the Godhead, the Incarnation, etc. Doctrine comes from the Bible. Therefore to get the right Doctrine, you need the right Bible.

The new catholic bible versions (NIV, ESV, NASV, etc.) change and distort important Bible doctrines like the Deity of Jesus Christ, the sinlessness of Jesus Christ, the Virgin Birth, repentance and so forth.

So your statement about mixed priorities is totally wrong. Brother James Melton has the right priorities, because he honors and uplifts the word of God.


2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. - Psalm 138:2 (Holy Bible)

17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. - John 17:17 (Holy Bible)
 

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Once again thank you. For the prayer and the good advices. They're all I need to comfort my soul. I do have my Bible, the one given by my father when he sent me to college 11 years ago. But don't get me wrong. He's way far from a good Christian. He barely goes to church, my mother does. My mother is the one I call a believer. She's the epitome of a good Christian. She's probably the only one in the family I know who prays for me and for everyone every single day and I thank God for that.
You are welcome LadyOscar. To God be all the glory. Amen!

I am glad that you have a mother that prays a lot. That's a blessing. Also if they have King James Bibles where you live, make sure you get yourself one if you don't have one already. Also, I take it that you go to the same church which your mother goes to, right?

Or do you visit and attend another church?
 

homwardbound

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No Rachel. It is called having the right priorities in the right place. Where do we get Doctrine from? The Bible.

If we did not have God's word, then we would be clueless about important doctrines such as: salvation by grace through faith alone, the Godhead, the Incarnation, etc. Doctrine comes from the Bible. Therefore to get the right Doctrine, you need the right Bible.

The new catholic bible versions (NIV, ESV, NASV, etc.) change and distort important Bible doctrines like the Deity of Jesus Christ, the sinlessness of Jesus Christ, the Virgin Birth, repentance and so forth.

So your statement about mixed priorities is totally wrong. Brother James Melton has the right priorities, because he honors and uplifts the word of God.


2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. - Psalm 138:2 (Holy Bible)

17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. - John 17:17 (Holy Bible)
So you know exactly that this man is for God, just because he sounds so good, and are you taking his words over God's. God came to die for us, and by this sanctification of making us perfect in front of his Father, we are restored to right felloowshiop with Father being born agian by the resurrection of christ and serve Father in heaven where the true Church is at the onr Father built not man.
Father put his Spirit in the ines that have treust(faith) in God,and by this God has become my teacher, yuor teacher and all that he has empowered through their believing the full Gospel, death, burial, and resurrection, then the ascenscion so the Holy Ghost could come and empower us to truth that sets us free.
There is only one mediator between God and man, and that is Christ Jesus
[h=3]Hebrews 8:1-4[/h]King James Version (KJV)

8 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
[SUP]2 [/SUP]A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

God does talk to us still, God is not silent and there was no word before Moses written before Moses, and God today has chosen all to belive in him through his Son, who is the way, the truth and the life. The invitation is to all whoever will believe God, that God plain and simple just love you, me and all that willsee this.
Problem is that mankind ahs done so much evil in deception to others by acting and pretending to be good and we get decieved and stolen from, taken advantage of, that this has gotten in the way of the only one true God that is Merciful, and this Mercy is shown by the cross of christ
 
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No Rachel. It is called having the right priorities in the right place. Where do we get Doctrine from? The Bible.

If we did not have God's word, then we would be clueless about important doctrines such as: salvation by grace through faith alone, the Godhead, the Incarnation, etc. Doctrine comes from the Bible. Therefore to get the right Doctrine, you need the right Bible.

The new catholic bible versions (NIV, ESV, NASV, etc.) change and distort important Bible doctrines like the Deity of Jesus Christ, the sinlessness of Jesus Christ, the Virgin Birth, repentance and so forth.

So your statement about mixed priorities is totally wrong. Brother James Melton has the right priorities, because he honors and uplifts the word of God.


2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. - Psalm 138:2 (Holy Bible)

17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. - John 17:17 (Holy Bible)
without the doctrine of the trinity you wouldn't even know whose word the bible is...

and the modern bibles very clearly proclaim the deity and sinlessness of christ...and the virgin birth...and everything else... holding cultish 'king james only' beliefs is not a requirement for understanding true doctrine...in fact many members of king james only cults teach false doctrines...

also like i said in another thread...the king james version was translated from a text that was compiled by a devoted roman catholic...and changes were made under pressure from the roman catholic authorities...it was even dedicated to a pope...so calling the modern bible versions 'catholic bible versions' is hypocritical...your version has more roman catholic roots than almost any other...

the king james only cult does not honor the word of God...the king james only cult worships an idol...
 

homwardbound

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without the doctrine of the trinity you wouldn't even know whose word the bible is...

and the modern bibles very clearly proclaim the deity and sinlessness of christ...and the virgin birth...and everything else... holding cultish 'king james only' beliefs is not a requirement for understanding true doctrine...in fact many members of king james only cults teach false doctrines...

also like i said in another thread...the king james version was translated from a text that was compiled by a devoted roman catholic...and changes were made under pressure from the roman catholic authorities...it was even dedicated to a pope...so calling the modern bible versions 'catholic bible versions' is hypocritical...your version has more roman catholic roots than almost any other...

the king james only cult does not honor the word of God...the king james only cult worships an idol...
And if I amy say, it is not the Bible or any translation of it that sets one free, It is the truth of the word, and the word is God. so all that is read and learned needs to be from God personally to you, you and you over there. God is the one that gets each one of us to stand, not ourselves and or others
Romans 14:4Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

knowing this truth above, I listen now and hear now, and sift all thropugh my heart where I serve God from by the hidden man of my heart Thanks to all for their insights