The Best Church for You - By Brother James L. Melton
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Rachel, real Christians should defend and take a strong stand for the perfect word of God. Just like we King James Bible believers do.
Also, Christians should not be defending Satan's line of bibles. Satanic bibles like the NIV, ESV, NLT, The Message and all the other New Age, Ecumenical and satanic counterfeits that are there posing as bibles when they are really fake bibles.
And no, King James Onlyism is not idolatry. God's perfect and pure word is to be highly regarded and reverenced.
2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word. - Isaiah 66:2 (Holy Bible)
5 Hear the word of the Lord, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the Lord be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed. - Isaiah 66:5 (Holy Bible)
And Rachel, God highly values His word. God magnified His word above His very name. (See Psalm 138:2). Therefore the Bible Version Issue is very important.
And no, Hezekiah would not have done what you said if he was here.
Hezekiah would be a King James Bible believer if he were here today, I believe.
Blain, the modern versions like the NIV, ESV, NLT, Message, LB, CEV, TEB, etc. are not the word of God.
All those modern versions which I listed attack the deity of Jesus Christ and most of them if not all of them, make Jesus a sinner.
That's why the modern versions are satanic. Go look up Isaiah 14:12 in the modern versions and see how they remove Lucifer from the passage and replace it with either Morning Star or Day Star. Look this stuff up for yourself. Hence, what the new versions do with that passage is they claim that it was Jesus who fell from Heaven and not Lucifer. Therefore, the modern translations are indeed satanic and very wicked.
It was NOT Jesus. But It was Lucifer who fell from Heaven in Isaiah 14:12.
From what I could tell Blain, you live in the States, so you should have ready and easy access to a King James Bible somewhere. Check out Local Church Bible Publishers.
So we Bible believers, when we attack the new versions, we are attacking them because they are corrupt and satanic. Check out this video. And you'll see one of the ways that these new and modern bible translations are attacking the person and deity of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Modern bibles Make Jesus A Sinner!
[video=youtube;t-60Y1HxyB8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-60Y1HxyB8[/video]
All those modern versions which I listed attack the deity of Jesus Christ and most of them if not all of them, make Jesus a sinner.
That's why the modern versions are satanic. Go look up Isaiah 14:12 in the modern versions and see how they remove Lucifer from the passage and replace it with either Morning Star or Day Star. Look this stuff up for yourself. Hence, what the new versions do with that passage is they claim that it was Jesus who fell from Heaven and not Lucifer. Therefore, the modern translations are indeed satanic and very wicked.
It was NOT Jesus. But It was Lucifer who fell from Heaven in Isaiah 14:12.
From what I could tell Blain, you live in the States, so you should have ready and easy access to a King James Bible somewhere. Check out Local Church Bible Publishers.
So we Bible believers, when we attack the new versions, we are attacking them because they are corrupt and satanic. Check out this video. And you'll see one of the ways that these new and modern bible translations are attacking the person and deity of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Modern bibles Make Jesus A Sinner!
[video=youtube;t-60Y1HxyB8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-60Y1HxyB8[/video]
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how is that you have become so adament in this, as if the KJV is the only truth inerrant? And all others are Satanic? I know there are errors in the written word by man today, in the King James as well. Yet the truth in each Bible in there for the ones that God reveals truth to. For without the Spirit of God one can't know truth. Now God's truth is love to all mankind, and really to hold onto one version over all the rest is not setting one free or others free.
"IT IS NOT ANY BIBLE THAT SETS ONE FREE OR THE WORDS FOUND IN ANY OF THEM"
CHRIST HIMSELF IS THE WORD BROUGHT TO EARTH, AND IN CHRIST LIFE IS FOUND BY THE RESURRECTION FOR US ALL THAT BELEIVE,THEREFORE IT IS THE TRUTH OF THE WORD,CHRIST THAT SETS US ALL FREE IN FATHER, AND FATHER WHO REVEALS THE TRUTH TO US. GOD IS NOT LMMITED
[h=3]Matthew 3:7-9[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? [SUP]8 [/SUP]Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, [SUP]9 [/SUP]and do not think to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.
"IT IS NOT ANY BIBLE THAT SETS ONE FREE OR THE WORDS FOUND IN ANY OF THEM"
CHRIST HIMSELF IS THE WORD BROUGHT TO EARTH, AND IN CHRIST LIFE IS FOUND BY THE RESURRECTION FOR US ALL THAT BELEIVE,THEREFORE IT IS THE TRUTH OF THE WORD,CHRIST THAT SETS US ALL FREE IN FATHER, AND FATHER WHO REVEALS THE TRUTH TO US. GOD IS NOT LMMITED
[h=3]Matthew 3:7-9[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? [SUP]8 [/SUP]Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, [SUP]9 [/SUP]and do not think to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.
Nautilus, you are clearly ignorant and lack spiritual discernment if you don't see the blatant attacks on the person and deity of the Lord Jesus Christ in the modern versions.
Are concerns are very serious ones. Because are concerns are for the pure words of the living God. And you Nautilus don't seem to care one bit that Satan and his agents have perverted the words of the living God by all the modern, satanic bible perversions that have flooded the market since 1881.
And the more truth you are shown on this issue, the more accountable you will be held at the Judgment Seat of Christ.
So if you want to keep resisting the truth, well that's on you. But as for me, I am going to continue to expose the modern bible perversions because all they are are satanic counterfeits.
How much time have you even put into studying the Bible Version Issue Nautilus? I mean have you even read one book on the issue? Or have you at least watched a video on this issue? Probably not. And if you haven't done any due diligence in studying this matter out thoroughly, then all you are offering is your mere opinions and not any facts to this discussion.
And also Nautilus, keep this verse of Scripture in mind:
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him. - Proverbs 18:13 (Holy Bible)
Are concerns are very serious ones. Because are concerns are for the pure words of the living God. And you Nautilus don't seem to care one bit that Satan and his agents have perverted the words of the living God by all the modern, satanic bible perversions that have flooded the market since 1881.
And the more truth you are shown on this issue, the more accountable you will be held at the Judgment Seat of Christ.
So if you want to keep resisting the truth, well that's on you. But as for me, I am going to continue to expose the modern bible perversions because all they are are satanic counterfeits.
How much time have you even put into studying the Bible Version Issue Nautilus? I mean have you even read one book on the issue? Or have you at least watched a video on this issue? Probably not. And if you haven't done any due diligence in studying this matter out thoroughly, then all you are offering is your mere opinions and not any facts to this discussion.
And also Nautilus, keep this verse of Scripture in mind:
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him. - Proverbs 18:13 (Holy Bible)
Homwardbound, I am so adamant over this because this issue is very important. I am aware that there are plenty of translations out there. Some even before 1881. The modern translations which I attack are the ones produced since 1881. The very first "Modern Translation" technically speaking, was the Revised Version of 1881. Also called the English Revised Version, since it was published in England. Then about 20 years later, the American Standard Version came out in America in 1901. It was a revision of the English Revised Version. And in the American Standard Version, the Godhood and Deity of Jesus Christ was attacked in a footnote in John 9:38. Keep in mind Homwardbound, that both the Revised Version and the American Standard Version are considered the granddaddies of all the modern translations that are on the market today. Since they were the ones that initiated all the changes that are very common today.
Now I am going to share a quote of what Douglas D. Stauffer said in his book, One Book Stands Alone.
By Dr. Douglas Stauffer - Excerpt from One Book Stands Alone (Chapter 2.)
"Examining the footnotes found in these early versions (ERV & ASV), one can quickly ascertain the thoughts and intentions of the earliest revisers. Although its copyright page claims the ASV to be a revision of the King James Bible, it is not.
The claimed purpose of this older translation, as well as the stated purpose of today’s translations, is simply to modernize the language and render these versions easier to read and understand. If the intention of the revisers was merely to modernize the language of the King James Bible, why then do these modern versions all attack the deity of our Lord Jesus Christ?
Jesus — Accepts Worship
The American Standard Version died out long ago. It is no longer an acceptable version, having been The American Standard Version died out long ago. It is no longer an acceptable version, having been replaced by the more than 200 more modern choices. For this reason, only a single verse from the ASV, along with its corresponding footnote, will be considered in the present study.
(KJB) John 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Amazingly, we have agreement between the two texts. The ASV says the exact same thing as the King James Bible.
(ASV) John 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
In this case, the problem does not involve a change in the text itself. Instead, the attack manifests itself in the footnotes of the ASV. Both versions reveal that the Lord Jesus Christ received worship. However, the footnote corresponding to this verse in the ASV blasphemes God. Here, in the great granddaddy of all the modern versions, the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ is vehemently and overtly attacked. By examining this footnote, one can quickly see that the revisers did not believe Jesus to be God.
The footnote: "The Greek word denotes an act of reverence, whether paid to a creature (as here), or to the Creator." 2 Translators of the American Standard Version and the English Revised Version believed our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ to be a created being. Since Jesus was the One being worshipped in this passage, the translators reveal their unbelief that He is the Creator of the universe. Many other passages could be considered. However, such a flagrant attack on the deity of Christ should suffice to illustrate the point." - (Douglas Stauffer, One Book Stands Alone, Chapter 2. Deity Denied)
So Homwardbound, Dr. Douglas Stauffer asked a good question, if all these modern translations are simply "updating" the language of the Bible for the people, then why in all the modern versions and translations is the person and deity of the Lord Jesus Christ attacked so much?
The reason the deity of Jesus Christ is attacked shows the true nature of these modern translations. That the modern translations are satanic and are indeed false bibles. They are simply counterfeits. I mean think about it like this Homwardbound, Satan always tried to imitate God. That's why just like there are Ministers of God, there are also ministers of Satan. Just as you have the one true local New Testament church which consists of the assembling together of New Testament Christians, there are also many false churches out there (i.e. Seventh Day Adventist, Jehovah's Witnesses' Kingdom Hall, Mormon Church, Campebellite, Charismatic churches, Sacred Name Movement churches, etc.) Not only that, but just as you have genuine converts who are truly saved. There are also false converts, or false brethren. I mean if there are so many satanic imitations and counterfeits out there, what makes us think that there are not also false and satanic bibles out there?
Also Homwardbound, there are no errors in the King James Bible. The King James Authorized Bible is the perfect, inerrant and infallible word of God. I highly recommend you check out Will Kinney's website: Another King James Bible believer:
Home - Another King James Bible Believer
"Examining the footnotes found in these early versions (ERV & ASV), one can quickly ascertain the thoughts and intentions of the earliest revisers. Although its copyright page claims the ASV to be a revision of the King James Bible, it is not.
The claimed purpose of this older translation, as well as the stated purpose of today’s translations, is simply to modernize the language and render these versions easier to read and understand. If the intention of the revisers was merely to modernize the language of the King James Bible, why then do these modern versions all attack the deity of our Lord Jesus Christ?
Jesus — Accepts Worship
The American Standard Version died out long ago. It is no longer an acceptable version, having been The American Standard Version died out long ago. It is no longer an acceptable version, having been replaced by the more than 200 more modern choices. For this reason, only a single verse from the ASV, along with its corresponding footnote, will be considered in the present study.
(KJB) John 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Amazingly, we have agreement between the two texts. The ASV says the exact same thing as the King James Bible.
(ASV) John 9:38 And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
In this case, the problem does not involve a change in the text itself. Instead, the attack manifests itself in the footnotes of the ASV. Both versions reveal that the Lord Jesus Christ received worship. However, the footnote corresponding to this verse in the ASV blasphemes God. Here, in the great granddaddy of all the modern versions, the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ is vehemently and overtly attacked. By examining this footnote, one can quickly see that the revisers did not believe Jesus to be God.
The footnote: "The Greek word denotes an act of reverence, whether paid to a creature (as here), or to the Creator." 2 Translators of the American Standard Version and the English Revised Version believed our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ to be a created being. Since Jesus was the One being worshipped in this passage, the translators reveal their unbelief that He is the Creator of the universe. Many other passages could be considered. However, such a flagrant attack on the deity of Christ should suffice to illustrate the point." - (Douglas Stauffer, One Book Stands Alone, Chapter 2. Deity Denied)
So Homwardbound, Dr. Douglas Stauffer asked a good question, if all these modern translations are simply "updating" the language of the Bible for the people, then why in all the modern versions and translations is the person and deity of the Lord Jesus Christ attacked so much?
The reason the deity of Jesus Christ is attacked shows the true nature of these modern translations. That the modern translations are satanic and are indeed false bibles. They are simply counterfeits. I mean think about it like this Homwardbound, Satan always tried to imitate God. That's why just like there are Ministers of God, there are also ministers of Satan. Just as you have the one true local New Testament church which consists of the assembling together of New Testament Christians, there are also many false churches out there (i.e. Seventh Day Adventist, Jehovah's Witnesses' Kingdom Hall, Mormon Church, Campebellite, Charismatic churches, Sacred Name Movement churches, etc.) Not only that, but just as you have genuine converts who are truly saved. There are also false converts, or false brethren. I mean if there are so many satanic imitations and counterfeits out there, what makes us think that there are not also false and satanic bibles out there?
Also Homwardbound, there are no errors in the King James Bible. The King James Authorized Bible is the perfect, inerrant and infallible word of God. I highly recommend you check out Will Kinney's website: Another King James Bible believer:
Home - Another King James Bible Believer
Well Agricola, what you could do is first approach your pastor who is using a modern version. And show him the issue. Show him the Bible Version Issue and how the new versions like the NIV, ESV, NLT, Message all attack the Deity of Jesus Christ, and how they all attack the Blood Atonement, and how they pervert other important Bible Doctrines. And if he changes and converts to the King James Bible, then you can stay. But if after the pastor knows the truth of the Bible Version Issue and after he sees the blatant attacks against the Lord Jesus Christ, if he does not repent and change, but still persists in using the modern perversions then you need to leave. You need to do the right thing. Christians should have strong convictions over the words of the living God.
And once that pastor knows the real issue behind all the modern bible versions and he does not convert to the King James Bible. But decides to still use the Vatican versions then that Pastor is in sin and he is in error.
When you learn the truth, you need to do something with that truth. You shouldn't persist in error.
Ignorance is one thing. But willful ignorance is totally another.
And once that pastor knows the real issue behind all the modern bible versions and he does not convert to the King James Bible. But decides to still use the Vatican versions then that Pastor is in sin and he is in error.
When you learn the truth, you need to do something with that truth. You shouldn't persist in error.
Ignorance is one thing. But willful ignorance is totally another.
J
it seems to me that arguing over translations has discouraged people who would red the bible from ever opening it in the first place. most people that own a bible don't bother to read it as it is....regardless of what translation it is.....and that alone is sad enough. if a person begins reading a less than perfect translation in the beginning our God is able to redirect him on his path and provide for correcting any misconceptions they may have
What a load of horse plop.
Your King James only cult, is disgusting and evil.
You have been told countless times about the so called "differences" and how translation works, and the so called missing verses from NIV are not really missing at all. You still have not answered me from other posts which version of the King James do you consider the correct one. Is it the one which also includes the Apocrypha? What about the New King James?
Your King James only cult, is disgusting and evil.
You have been told countless times about the so called "differences" and how translation works, and the so called missing verses from NIV are not really missing at all. You still have not answered me from other posts which version of the King James do you consider the correct one. Is it the one which also includes the Apocrypha? What about the New King James?
Agricola, you simply do not know what you are talking about. Those omitted verses in the NIV are omissions. Each of those verses that the NIV and other modern translations take out, belong in the text. So you and anyone else who makes that claim that those omissions are not really omissions is wrong. They are omissions because they belong in the text. And you do not take away God's words out of His Book, there is a stiff penalty for those who take away or add to God's words.
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. - Revelation 22:18-21 (Holy Bible)
And I have refuted those claims from the Alexandrians trying to justify those changes made by the modern translations and new versions.
I have not answered you from other posts? I may have missed your question.
Which version of the King James do I consider correct? Agricola, there is only one King James Bible. The King James Bible is the 100% perfect, inerrant and infallible word of God.
Agricola, are you aware that not only is the text of the modern translations like the NIV and NASB constantly changing but also the underlying Hebrew and Greek texts behind those modern translations are also being revised?
That is the heart of higher textual criticism. And that is the mindset of the Alexandrian cult. No bible is perfect, but they are all getting better. That is exactly what the Alexandrian school of thought teaches. I am telling you Agricola, you need to reconsider your position on the Bible Version Issue, because you are on the wrong side.
The New King James is just another counterfeit bible version. The New King James Version is not even a revision of the King James Bible. A lot of people think it is but it is not. The New King James is more deceptive because it blends textus receptus readings with Nestle's readings. Hence, in certain passages the NKJV does agree with the KJV but in other passages where the NKJV disagrees with the KJV, it ends up agreeing with the modern translations like the NIV, ESV, NASB, etc.
So the New King James ain't good either. Which Bible is good? Simple, it's the King James Bible.
And in regard to the Apocrypha, here is a good article Sam Gipp wrote on the issue concerning the apocrypha being in the 1611 King James Bible:
The Answer Book
By Sam Gipp
QUESTION: Didn't the King James Bible when first printed contain the Apocrypha?
ANSWER: Yes.
EXPLANATION: Many critics of the perfect Bible like to point out that the original King James had the Apocrypha in it as though that fact compromises its integrity. But several things must be examined to get the factual picture.
First, in the days in which our Bible was translated, the Apocrypha was accepted reading based on its historical value, though not accepted as Scripture by anyone outside of the Catholic church. The King James translators therefore placed it betweenthe Old and New Testaments for its historical benefit to its readers. They did notintegrate it into the Old Testament text as do the corrupt Alexandrian manuscripts.
That they rejected the Apocrypha as divine is very obvious by the seven reasons which they gave for not incorporating it into the text. They are as follows:
1. Not one of them is in the Hebrew language, which was alone used by the inspired historians and poets of the Old Testament.
2. Not one of the writers lays any claim to inspiration.
3. These books were never acknowledged as sacred Scriptures by the Jewish Church, and therefore were never sanctioned by our Lord.
4. They were not allowed a place among the sacred books, during the first four centuries of the Christian Church.
5. They contain fabulous statements, and statements which contradict not only the canonical Scriptures, but themselves; as when, in the two Books of Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places.
6. It inculcates doctrines at variance with the Bible, such as prayers for the dead and sinless perfection.
7. It teaches immoral practices, such as lying, suicide, assassination and magical incantation.
If having the Apocrypha between the Testaments disqualifies it as authoritative, then the corrupt Vaticanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts from Alexandria, Egypt must be totally worthless since their authors obviously didn't have the conviction of the King James translators and incorporated its books into the text of the Old Testament thus giving it authority with Scripture.
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. - Revelation 22:18-21 (Holy Bible)
And I have refuted those claims from the Alexandrians trying to justify those changes made by the modern translations and new versions.
I have not answered you from other posts? I may have missed your question.
Which version of the King James do I consider correct? Agricola, there is only one King James Bible. The King James Bible is the 100% perfect, inerrant and infallible word of God.
Agricola, are you aware that not only is the text of the modern translations like the NIV and NASB constantly changing but also the underlying Hebrew and Greek texts behind those modern translations are also being revised?
That is the heart of higher textual criticism. And that is the mindset of the Alexandrian cult. No bible is perfect, but they are all getting better. That is exactly what the Alexandrian school of thought teaches. I am telling you Agricola, you need to reconsider your position on the Bible Version Issue, because you are on the wrong side.
The New King James is just another counterfeit bible version. The New King James Version is not even a revision of the King James Bible. A lot of people think it is but it is not. The New King James is more deceptive because it blends textus receptus readings with Nestle's readings. Hence, in certain passages the NKJV does agree with the KJV but in other passages where the NKJV disagrees with the KJV, it ends up agreeing with the modern translations like the NIV, ESV, NASB, etc.
So the New King James ain't good either. Which Bible is good? Simple, it's the King James Bible.
And in regard to the Apocrypha, here is a good article Sam Gipp wrote on the issue concerning the apocrypha being in the 1611 King James Bible:
The Answer Book
By Sam Gipp
ANSWER: Yes.
EXPLANATION: Many critics of the perfect Bible like to point out that the original King James had the Apocrypha in it as though that fact compromises its integrity. But several things must be examined to get the factual picture.
First, in the days in which our Bible was translated, the Apocrypha was accepted reading based on its historical value, though not accepted as Scripture by anyone outside of the Catholic church. The King James translators therefore placed it betweenthe Old and New Testaments for its historical benefit to its readers. They did notintegrate it into the Old Testament text as do the corrupt Alexandrian manuscripts.
That they rejected the Apocrypha as divine is very obvious by the seven reasons which they gave for not incorporating it into the text. They are as follows:
1. Not one of them is in the Hebrew language, which was alone used by the inspired historians and poets of the Old Testament.
2. Not one of the writers lays any claim to inspiration.
3. These books were never acknowledged as sacred Scriptures by the Jewish Church, and therefore were never sanctioned by our Lord.
4. They were not allowed a place among the sacred books, during the first four centuries of the Christian Church.
5. They contain fabulous statements, and statements which contradict not only the canonical Scriptures, but themselves; as when, in the two Books of Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places.
6. It inculcates doctrines at variance with the Bible, such as prayers for the dead and sinless perfection.
7. It teaches immoral practices, such as lying, suicide, assassination and magical incantation.
If having the Apocrypha between the Testaments disqualifies it as authoritative, then the corrupt Vaticanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts from Alexandria, Egypt must be totally worthless since their authors obviously didn't have the conviction of the King James translators and incorporated its books into the text of the Old Testament thus giving it authority with Scripture.
Also, I am going to share an excerpt and an article on the New King James Version. I am sure this will help you i regard to your question Agricola:
By David W. Daniels
Question: I know the New King James is said to be a "revision of the King James." But were the Greek and Hebrew texts for the New King James the same as they were for the King James?
Answer: The NKJV is not a revision of the King James Bible. It is a subtle perversion of the King James Bible. Though years of extensive research have shown that the Greek and Hebrew texts used for the main NKJV text were similar to those used for the KJV, there is a subtle and deadly poison injected into the NKJV: it changes the meaning of God's words and it lifts up other texts that disagree with the King James.
There is another side to the New King James that reveals its ugly alliances.
In most places where the NKJV disagrees with the King James Bible, it agrees with the translations of modern Alexandrian perversions, whether Prostestant like the NIV, NAS, RSV, ASV, etc., or Roman Catholic like the New American Bible.
The King James Bible is God's preserved words in English. The NKJV is just man's most subtle perversion of God's words. Don't be deceived. Insist on the King James Bible, not "New" King James, "Modern" King James, King James "2" or "21" or "Millennium,." Even thought it is very similar to a King James Bible, it is not a King James Bible. Insist on the one you can stake your faith on, the genuine King James Bible. God will bless you.
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[TD="width: 125"]Acts 3:26[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]God, having raised up his Son[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]His Servant[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]NIV, NASV, ASV, RSV, Roman Catholic New American Bible (NAB), etc.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 125"]Acts 17:22[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]very religious[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]NIV, NASV, ASV, RSV, Catholic NAB, etc.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 125"]Romans 1:25[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]Who changed the truth of God into a lie[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]who exchangedthe truth of God forthe lie[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]NIV, NASV, ASV, RSV, Catholic NAB, etc.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 125"]1 Corinthians 1:18[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]who are being saved [This teaches the Roman Catholic lie that salvation is a process.][/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]NIV, NASV, NASU, RSV, Catholic NAB, etc.[/TD]
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By David W. Daniels
Question: I know the New King James is said to be a "revision of the King James." But were the Greek and Hebrew texts for the New King James the same as they were for the King James?
Answer: The NKJV is not a revision of the King James Bible. It is a subtle perversion of the King James Bible. Though years of extensive research have shown that the Greek and Hebrew texts used for the main NKJV text were similar to those used for the KJV, there is a subtle and deadly poison injected into the NKJV: it changes the meaning of God's words and it lifts up other texts that disagree with the King James.
- The Latin Vulgate. This is not the preserved Vaudois Christian, Old Latin Vulgate. The NKJV "scholars" consulted the perverted, Roman Catholic Latin Vulgate.
- The Dead Sea Scrolls, or DSS. It is clear through Scripture that God preserved His words through the tribe of Levi (Deuteronomy 17:18, 31:9-13, 25-26, Nehemiah 8 and Malachi 2:7). The Qumran community that produced the DSS are never said to be Levites. But though God says "the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth" (Malachi 2:7), the NKJV committee instead consulted the DSS as well.
- The Majority Text, or MT. With a name like Majority Text it should be a compilation of the majority of Greek New Testament manuscripts. But it is not. The "Majority Text" is actually a hand-picked set of manuscripts grouped together by "pro-Alexandrian" liberal Hermann von Soden[SUP]2 [/SUP]Less than 8% of the over 5,000 Greek manuscripts were compared to each other by von Soden's team of collators! But the NKJV people give the MT great prominence, writing this inaccurate information in the footnotes.
So people think that the King James is wrong, since it disagrees with "the Majority Text." Who cares? The "Majority Text" is not the majority of texts! The "Majority Text" is a big fake. Don't believe it. And don't trust any Bible that does.
There is another side to the New King James that reveals its ugly alliances.
In most places where the NKJV disagrees with the King James Bible, it agrees with the translations of modern Alexandrian perversions, whether Prostestant like the NIV, NAS, RSV, ASV, etc., or Roman Catholic like the New American Bible.
The King James Bible is God's preserved words in English. The NKJV is just man's most subtle perversion of God's words. Don't be deceived. Insist on the King James Bible, not "New" King James, "Modern" King James, King James "2" or "21" or "Millennium,." Even thought it is very similar to a King James Bible, it is not a King James Bible. Insist on the one you can stake your faith on, the genuine King James Bible. God will bless you.
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[TD="width: 125"]Acts 3:26[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]God, having raised up his Son[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]His Servant[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]NIV, NASV, ASV, RSV, Roman Catholic New American Bible (NAB), etc.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 125"]Acts 17:22[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]very religious[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]NIV, NASV, ASV, RSV, Catholic NAB, etc.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 125"]Romans 1:25[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]Who changed the truth of God into a lie[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]who exchangedthe truth of God forthe lie[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]NIV, NASV, ASV, RSV, Catholic NAB, etc.[/TD]
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[TD="width: 125"]For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.[/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]who are being saved [This teaches the Roman Catholic lie that salvation is a process.][/TD]
[TD="width: 125"]NIV, NASV, NASU, RSV, Catholic NAB, etc.[/TD]
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by Terry Watkins
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[TD="align: center"][SIZE=+1]coun ter feit \'kaunt-er-fit\: to imitate or copy closely
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The greatest method of deception is to counterfeit.
And the master of counterfeit and deception is Satan.
The Bible in 2 Corinthians 11:14-15 warns of Satan's counterfeit: "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;. . ." Isaiah 14: 14 tells of Satan's ultimate counterfeit: ". . . I will BE LIKE the most High."
And among his greatest counterfeit's is the New King James Bible (NKJV). Christians that would never touch a New International Version (NIV), New American Standard (NASV), Revised Standard (RSV), the New Revised Standard (NRSV) or other per-versions are being "seduced" by the subtil NKJV.
And though the New King James does indeed bear a "likeness" to the 1611 King James Bible, as you'll soon see, there's something else coiled (see Genesis 3:1) "underneath the cover" of the NKJV.
[TABLE="width: 90%"]And the master of counterfeit and deception is Satan.
The Bible in 2 Corinthians 11:14-15 warns of Satan's counterfeit: "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;. . ." Isaiah 14: 14 tells of Satan's ultimate counterfeit: ". . . I will BE LIKE the most High."
And among his greatest counterfeit's is the New King James Bible (NKJV). Christians that would never touch a New International Version (NIV), New American Standard (NASV), Revised Standard (RSV), the New Revised Standard (NRSV) or other per-versions are being "seduced" by the subtil NKJV.
And though the New King James does indeed bear a "likeness" to the 1611 King James Bible, as you'll soon see, there's something else coiled (see Genesis 3:1) "underneath the cover" of the NKJV.
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Symbols are used throughout the occult. Harpers' Encyclopedia of Mystical & Paranormal Experience (p.594) says, "Symbols are important to all esoteric teachings, for they contain secret wisdom accessible only to the initiated."Many people have asked about the mysterious symbol on the NKJV.
Thomas Nelson Publishers (publishers of the NKJV) claim, on the inside-cover, the symbol, ". . .is an ancient symbol for the Trinity." But Acts 17:29, clearly FORBIDS such symbology: ". . . we ought NOT to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, GRAVEN BY ART and man's device."
And why does The Aquarian Conspiracy, a key New Age "handbook", bear a similar symbol? New Agers freely admit it represents three inter-woven "6"s or "666".
Constance Cumbey, author of The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow and a notable authority on the New Age Movement, said, "On the cover of the Aquarian Conspiracy is a Mobius, it is really used by them as triple six (666). The emblem on the cover of the New King James Bible is said to be an ancient symbol of the Trinity. The old symbol had gnostic origins. It was more gnostic than Christian. I was rather alarmed when I noticed the emblem..." (The New Age Movement, Southwest Radio Church, 1982 p.11)
The three esoteric "6"'s separated.
Plainly displaying the interlocked "666".
Thomas Nelson Publishers (publishers of the NKJV) claim, on the inside-cover, the symbol, ". . .is an ancient symbol for the Trinity." But Acts 17:29, clearly FORBIDS such symbology: ". . . we ought NOT to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, GRAVEN BY ART and man's device."
And why does The Aquarian Conspiracy, a key New Age "handbook", bear a similar symbol? New Agers freely admit it represents three inter-woven "6"s or "666".
Constance Cumbey, author of The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow and a notable authority on the New Age Movement, said, "On the cover of the Aquarian Conspiracy is a Mobius, it is really used by them as triple six (666). The emblem on the cover of the New King James Bible is said to be an ancient symbol of the Trinity. The old symbol had gnostic origins. It was more gnostic than Christian. I was rather alarmed when I noticed the emblem..." (The New Age Movement, Southwest Radio Church, 1982 p.11)
The three esoteric "6"'s separated.
Plainly displaying the interlocked "666".
The Triqueta is used as the centerpiece for the logo for The Institute of Transpersonal Psychology (ITP). The ITP is a new age school following the Jungian Psychology [occultist Carl Jung]. One of their stated goals is ". . . to reach the recognition of divinity within"(Oops! | Vantage Media) (see Genesis 3:5, "...ye shall be as gods...")
The same symbol (with a circle) is displayed by the rock group Led Zeppelin. Members of Led Zeppelin are deeply involved in satanism and the occult. Guitarist Jimmy Page, so consumed with satanism, actually purchased satanist Aleister Crowley's mansion. Most believe the symbol is from the teachings of Aleister Crowley and represents 666.
The following picture is "The Hierophant" taken from the Tarot card set designed by satanist Aliester Crowley. The "Hierophant" is a priest in the occult and Eleusinian. Notice the "three circles" at the top of the wand or rod in the Hierphant's hand. Inside the the three intertwined circles is the "NKJV symbol".
To the right is the top of the wand enlarged. Notice the "NKJV symbol" (upside down) inside the three circles.
One of the most occultic television shows ever aired is "Charmed". "Charmed" details the spells and occultic practices of three witches. The "NKJV symbol" is the show's primary symbol of witchcraft and is splattered throughout the series. Notice the "NKJV symbol" displayed on "The Book of Shadows". The Book of Shadows is commonly used in withcraft and satanism:
Book of Shadows: Also called a grimoire, this journal kept either by individual witches or satanists or by a coven or group, records the activities of the group and the incantations used. (Jerry Johnston, The Edge of Evil: The Rise of Satanism on North America, p. 269)
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[TD="align: center"]THE NKJV & WITCHCRAFT?The Craft: A Witch's Book of Shadows
The Witch's Book of Shadows or Grimoire is a book of spells, enchantments, and rituals. Includes Rituals, Spells, and Wicca Ethics
The Craft Companion: A Witch's Journal
By Dorothy Morrison, a high priest of Witchcraft.
NOTE: We circled (in YELLOW and RED), and also enlarged to the side The NKJV symbol.[/TD]
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[TD="align: center"]Here's some examples of Satanic and Pagan Jewelry which includes the NKJV logo.
LEFT BOX: Notice the satanic pentagram ring in the top right corner. The ring with the NKJV logo is the fourth down on the left, we highlighted it with a yellow circle.
BOTTOM BOX: Notice the very satanic Baphomet Goat.
We broke out and colored the NKJV symbol found in the other two satanic pieces of jewelry.
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LEFT: The image on the left is from the rock group Deicide's album "Once Upon the Cross". It is a triquetra (the NKJV logo) with pentagrams and upside down crosses. The group Deicide members are very serious Satanists. Lead Singer Glen Benton has an upside down cross branded on his forehead. The inside cover of the album "Once Upon the Cross" has the Lord Jesus Christ, sliced up the middle, with his insides removed. The name Deicide means the death of God.
RIGHT: The triquetra (the NKJV logo) is also the logo for the Rap / Metal band P.O.D.
The book "Blood on the Doorposts" by former Satanists, Bill and Sharon Schnoebelen, also documents the "trio of sixes (666)" in the "NKJV symbol" and goes so far as claim it is "symbolic of the anti-christ":
"A disguised interlocked trio of sixes, symbolic of the anti-christ. Also symbolizes the triple goddess of Wicca (three interlocked vesica pisces together). Commonly used in Catholic liturgical iconography, and has recently found its way into the logo of the New King James Bible." (Bill and Sharon Schnoebelen, Blood on the Doorposts, p. 150)
Dr. Cathy Burns writes in her book, Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated, concerning the "NKJV symbol":
"Marilyn Ferguson, a New Ager, used the symbol of the triquetra (another name for the triskele) on her book The Aquarian Conspiracy. This is a variation for the number 666. Other books and material have a similar design printed on them, such as books from David Spangler, the person who lauds Lucifer, and The Witch's Grimoire. As most people know, the number 666 is the number of the beast (see Revelation 13:18) and is evil, yet the occultists and New Agers love this number and consider it to be sacred.As stated earlier, many organizations, such as the World Future Society and the Trilateral Commission, incorporate this symbol into their logo. I think it is quite interesting to see that this same symbol appears on the cover of the New King James Bible as well!"(Dr. Cathy Burns, Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated, pp. 242-243)
For more info on the NKJV "mark"
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The Preface to the New King James Version (NKJV) reads, "A special feature of the New King James Version is ITS CONFORMITY to the thought flow of the 1611 Bible. . . the new edition, while much clearer ARE SO CLOSE to the traditional. . ."
Among the first changes that greets the reader of the NKJV is the removal of the much maligned "thee, thou and ye". The Preface to the NKJV states, ". . .thee, thou, and ye are replaced by the simple you,. . .These pronouns are no longer part of our language." But "thee, thou and ye" were "NO LONGER part of the language" during 1611 either. (just read the intro to the 1611 King James, there are no "thee", "thou" and "ye"). In fact, Webster's Third New International Dictionary, says of ye: "used from the earliest of times to the late 13th century. . ."(p.2648) And yet the 1611 King James was published 400 years later in the 17th century!
So why are they there?
The Greek and Hebrew language contain a different word for the second person singular and the second person plural pronouns. Today we use the one-word "you" for both the singular and plural. But because the translators of the 1611 King James Bible desired an accurate, word-for-word translation of the Hebrew and Greek text - they could NOT use the one-word "you" throughout! If it begins with "t" (thou, thy, thine) it's SINGULAR, but if it begins with "y" (ye) it's PLURAL. Ads for the NKJV call it "the Accurate One", and yet the 1611 King James, by using "thee", "thou", "ye", is far more accurate!
By the way, if the "thee's" and "thou's" are ". . .no longer part of our language" - why aren't the NKJV translators rushing to make our hymnbooks "much clearer"? "How Great Thou Art" to "How Great You Are", or "Come Thou Fount" to "Come You Fount" Doesn't sound right, does it? Isn't it amazing that they wouldn't dare "correct" our hymns - and yet, without the slightest hesitation, they'll "correct" the word of God!
The NKJV claims to make the "old" KJV "much clearer" by "updating obsolete words" (New King James Version, 1982e. p. 1235)
How about that "obsolete word" - "hell". The NKJV removes the word "hell" 23 times! And how do they make it "much clearer"? By replacing "hell" with "Hades" and "Sheol"!Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary defines Hades: "the underground abode of the dead in Greek MYTHOLOGY". By making it "much clearer" - they turn your Bible intoMYTHOLOGY! Not only that, Hades is not always a place of torment or terror! The Assyrian Hades is an abode of blessedness with silver skies called "Happy Fields". In the satanic New Age Movement, Hades is an intermediate state of purification!
Who in their right mind would think "Hades" or "Sheol" is "up-to-date" and "much clearer" than "hell"?
Matthew 16:18
KJV: "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
NKJV: "And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it."
Luke 16:23
Hell is removed in 2 Sam. 22:6, Job 11:8, 26:6, Psalm 16:10, 18:5, 86:13, 116:3, Isaiah 5:14, 14:15, 28:15,18, 57:9, Jonah 2:2, Matt. 11:23, 16:18, Luke 10:15, 16:23, Acts 2:27, 31, Rev. 1:18, 6:8, 20:13,14.
Then the NKJV decides that maybe "Hades" should be "grave"! So the NKJV makes 1 Corinthians 15:55 "much clearer" by changing "grave" to "Hades"! ". . . O Hades, where is your victory?"Clear as mud. . .
Another one of those "obsolete words" is "repent". They take it out 44 times! And how does the NKJV make it "much clearer"? In Matthew 21:32 they use "relent". Matthew 27:3 it's "remorseful" Or Romans 11:29 they change "repentance" to "irrevocable".
The term "new testament" is NOT in the NKJV! (see Matt. 26:28, Mark 14:24, Luke 22:20, 1 Cor. 11:25, 2 Cor. 3:6, Heb. 9:15,) The NKJV replaces "new testament" with "new covenant" (ditto NIV, NRSV, RSV, NASV). An obvious assault at the written word!
The word "damned", "damnation" is NOT in the NKJV! They make it "much clearer" by replacing it with "condemn" (ditto NIV, RSV, NRSV, NASV). "Condemned" is NO WHERE NEAR AS SERIOUS as "damned"! Damned is eternal! One can be "condemned" and not "damned". Romans 14:22 says, ". . . Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth." Webster defines "condemned": to declare to be wrong, but the much more serious and eternal "damn": "to condemn to hell".
The word "devils" (the singular, person called the "devil" is) is NOT in the NKJV! Replaced with the "transliterated" Greek word "demon" (ditto NIV, RSV, NRSV, NASV). The Theosophical Dictionary describes demon as: ". . . it has a meaning identical with that of 'god', 'angel' or 'genius'". Even Vines Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words (p.157)defines "demon" as: "an inferior deity, WHETHER GOOD OR BAD". Webster defines "demon" as: "divinity, spirit, an attendant power or spirit", but "devil" as: "the personal supreme spirit of EVIL. . ."
[/TD]Among the first changes that greets the reader of the NKJV is the removal of the much maligned "thee, thou and ye". The Preface to the NKJV states, ". . .thee, thou, and ye are replaced by the simple you,. . .These pronouns are no longer part of our language." But "thee, thou and ye" were "NO LONGER part of the language" during 1611 either. (just read the intro to the 1611 King James, there are no "thee", "thou" and "ye"). In fact, Webster's Third New International Dictionary, says of ye: "used from the earliest of times to the late 13th century. . ."(p.2648) And yet the 1611 King James was published 400 years later in the 17th century!
So why are they there?
The Greek and Hebrew language contain a different word for the second person singular and the second person plural pronouns. Today we use the one-word "you" for both the singular and plural. But because the translators of the 1611 King James Bible desired an accurate, word-for-word translation of the Hebrew and Greek text - they could NOT use the one-word "you" throughout! If it begins with "t" (thou, thy, thine) it's SINGULAR, but if it begins with "y" (ye) it's PLURAL. Ads for the NKJV call it "the Accurate One", and yet the 1611 King James, by using "thee", "thou", "ye", is far more accurate!
By the way, if the "thee's" and "thou's" are ". . .no longer part of our language" - why aren't the NKJV translators rushing to make our hymnbooks "much clearer"? "How Great Thou Art" to "How Great You Are", or "Come Thou Fount" to "Come You Fount" Doesn't sound right, does it? Isn't it amazing that they wouldn't dare "correct" our hymns - and yet, without the slightest hesitation, they'll "correct" the word of God!
The NKJV claims to make the "old" KJV "much clearer" by "updating obsolete words" (New King James Version, 1982e. p. 1235)
How about that "obsolete word" - "hell". The NKJV removes the word "hell" 23 times! And how do they make it "much clearer"? By replacing "hell" with "Hades" and "Sheol"!Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary defines Hades: "the underground abode of the dead in Greek MYTHOLOGY". By making it "much clearer" - they turn your Bible intoMYTHOLOGY! Not only that, Hades is not always a place of torment or terror! The Assyrian Hades is an abode of blessedness with silver skies called "Happy Fields". In the satanic New Age Movement, Hades is an intermediate state of purification!
Who in their right mind would think "Hades" or "Sheol" is "up-to-date" and "much clearer" than "hell"?
Matthew 16:18
KJV: "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
NKJV: "And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it."
Luke 16:23
KJV: "And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom."
NKJV: "And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom."
NKJV: "And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom."
Hell is removed in 2 Sam. 22:6, Job 11:8, 26:6, Psalm 16:10, 18:5, 86:13, 116:3, Isaiah 5:14, 14:15, 28:15,18, 57:9, Jonah 2:2, Matt. 11:23, 16:18, Luke 10:15, 16:23, Acts 2:27, 31, Rev. 1:18, 6:8, 20:13,14.
Then the NKJV decides that maybe "Hades" should be "grave"! So the NKJV makes 1 Corinthians 15:55 "much clearer" by changing "grave" to "Hades"! ". . . O Hades, where is your victory?"Clear as mud. . .
Another one of those "obsolete words" is "repent". They take it out 44 times! And how does the NKJV make it "much clearer"? In Matthew 21:32 they use "relent". Matthew 27:3 it's "remorseful" Or Romans 11:29 they change "repentance" to "irrevocable".
The term "new testament" is NOT in the NKJV! (see Matt. 26:28, Mark 14:24, Luke 22:20, 1 Cor. 11:25, 2 Cor. 3:6, Heb. 9:15,) The NKJV replaces "new testament" with "new covenant" (ditto NIV, NRSV, RSV, NASV). An obvious assault at the written word!
The word "damned", "damnation" is NOT in the NKJV! They make it "much clearer" by replacing it with "condemn" (ditto NIV, RSV, NRSV, NASV). "Condemned" is NO WHERE NEAR AS SERIOUS as "damned"! Damned is eternal! One can be "condemned" and not "damned". Romans 14:22 says, ". . . Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth." Webster defines "condemned": to declare to be wrong, but the much more serious and eternal "damn": "to condemn to hell".
The word "devils" (the singular, person called the "devil" is) is NOT in the NKJV! Replaced with the "transliterated" Greek word "demon" (ditto NIV, RSV, NRSV, NASV). The Theosophical Dictionary describes demon as: ". . . it has a meaning identical with that of 'god', 'angel' or 'genius'". Even Vines Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words (p.157)defines "demon" as: "an inferior deity, WHETHER GOOD OR BAD". Webster defines "demon" as: "divinity, spirit, an attendant power or spirit", but "devil" as: "the personal supreme spirit of EVIL. . ."
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New King James Version Counterfeit
By Terry Watkins (Part 2.)
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In 2 Timothy 2:15, the NKJV (like the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV) remove that "obsolete" word - "study"! The only time you're told to "study" your Bible. AND THEY ZAP IT! Why don't they want you to "study" your Bible? Maybe they don't want you to look too close - you might find out what they've ACTUALLY done to your Bible! The "real" KJV is the only English Bible in the world that instructs you to "study" your Bible!
That "obsolete" word "virtue" is replaced with "power" in Mark 5:30, Luke 6:19, 8:46! How does anybody confuse "virtue" with "power"? Simple - by being "bosom-buddies" with the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV! That's what they did!
One of the most absurd changes ever made is changing the word "servant" to "slave"! The NKJV in Romans 6:22, reads: "But now having been set FREE from sin, and having becomeSLAVES OF GOD. . ." The NKJV, in 1 Corinthians 7:22, calls the Christian, "Christ's slave". Talk about a contradiction! John 8:36 says, "If the Son therefore shall make you FREE, YE SHALL BE FREE INDEED." But isn't a Christian supposed to serve? Yes, in love. Not as a slave! Galatians 5:13 explains it, perfectly: "For, brethren, ye have been called unto LIBERTY;(not slavery!) only use not LIBERTY for an occasion to the flesh, but BY LOVE SERVE one another."
In order to "harmonize" with the satanic New Age Movement (and of course the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!), the NKJV changes "end of the WORLD" to "end of the AGE"! And in it's no longer the "WORLD to come" but "AGE to come". The New Age Movement teaches a series of ages (hence the name: New AGE). See Matthew 12:32, 13:39, 13:40, 13:49, 24:3, 28:20, Mark 10:30, Luke 13:30, 20:34,35, 1 Cor 1:21.
The New Age Movement and the occult are longing for one called the Maitreya. The Bible calls him the Anti-Christ. New Ager's refer to him as the "the Coming One" - AND SO DOES THE NKJV! In Luke 7:19, 20 (see also Matt 11:3) John told his disciples to ask Jesus: "Are You THE COMING ONE. . ." In the "The Great Invocation", a "prayer" highly reverenced among New Agers and chanted to "invoke" the Maitreya, says, "Let Light and Love and Power and Death, Fulfil the purpose of the Coming One."
And to REALLY show their sympathy with the satanic New Age Movement - BELIEVE IT OR NOT - in Acts 17:29 the New Age NKJV changes "Godhead" to "Divine Nature"! ( ditto NIV, NASV)
And if you think the NKJV just "innocently" updated the "obsolete words", removed the "thee's and thou's" - here's what the translators proudly admit: "IT IS CLEAR that this revisionREQUIRED more than the dropping of "-eth" endings, removing, "thee's" and "thou's," and updating obsolete words." (The New King James Version, 1982e. p. 1235)
AND THEY AIN'T JUST A KIDDIN'!
[TABLE]That "obsolete" word "virtue" is replaced with "power" in Mark 5:30, Luke 6:19, 8:46! How does anybody confuse "virtue" with "power"? Simple - by being "bosom-buddies" with the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV! That's what they did!
One of the most absurd changes ever made is changing the word "servant" to "slave"! The NKJV in Romans 6:22, reads: "But now having been set FREE from sin, and having becomeSLAVES OF GOD. . ." The NKJV, in 1 Corinthians 7:22, calls the Christian, "Christ's slave". Talk about a contradiction! John 8:36 says, "If the Son therefore shall make you FREE, YE SHALL BE FREE INDEED." But isn't a Christian supposed to serve? Yes, in love. Not as a slave! Galatians 5:13 explains it, perfectly: "For, brethren, ye have been called unto LIBERTY;(not slavery!) only use not LIBERTY for an occasion to the flesh, but BY LOVE SERVE one another."
In order to "harmonize" with the satanic New Age Movement (and of course the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!), the NKJV changes "end of the WORLD" to "end of the AGE"! And in it's no longer the "WORLD to come" but "AGE to come". The New Age Movement teaches a series of ages (hence the name: New AGE). See Matthew 12:32, 13:39, 13:40, 13:49, 24:3, 28:20, Mark 10:30, Luke 13:30, 20:34,35, 1 Cor 1:21.
The New Age Movement and the occult are longing for one called the Maitreya. The Bible calls him the Anti-Christ. New Ager's refer to him as the "the Coming One" - AND SO DOES THE NKJV! In Luke 7:19, 20 (see also Matt 11:3) John told his disciples to ask Jesus: "Are You THE COMING ONE. . ." In the "The Great Invocation", a "prayer" highly reverenced among New Agers and chanted to "invoke" the Maitreya, says, "Let Light and Love and Power and Death, Fulfil the purpose of the Coming One."
And to REALLY show their sympathy with the satanic New Age Movement - BELIEVE IT OR NOT - in Acts 17:29 the New Age NKJV changes "Godhead" to "Divine Nature"! ( ditto NIV, NASV)
And if you think the NKJV just "innocently" updated the "obsolete words", removed the "thee's and thou's" - here's what the translators proudly admit: "IT IS CLEAR that this revisionREQUIRED more than the dropping of "-eth" endings, removing, "thee's" and "thou's," and updating obsolete words." (The New King James Version, 1982e. p. 1235)
AND THEY AIN'T JUST A KIDDIN'!
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Genesis 2:18: The NKJV ought to make Hillary Clinton proud: "And the Lord God said, It is not good that man should be alone; I will make a helper COMPARABLE TO HIM"
Genesis 22:8: One of the greatest verses in the Bible proclaiming that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh: "God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering:" The NKJV adds that little word "for": "God will provide for Himself the lamb for a burnt offering" And destroys the wonderful promise! Where'd they get their little "for"? From the NASV!
Genesis 24:47: The "old" KJV reads: "I put the earring upon her face". But the NKJV has different plans for beautiful Rebekah: "I put the nose ring on her nose". Where did it get the ridiculous idea to "cannibalize" Rebekah? Just take a peek at the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!
Ezra 8:36: The KJV reads, "And they delivered the king's commissions unto the king's lieutenants. . ." The "much clearer" NKJV reads, "And they delivered the king's orders to the king's satraps. . ." Who in the world thinks "satraps" is "much clearer" than lieutenants? The NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV - they do! They put in the same "much clearer" word!
Psalms 109:6: removes "Satan". (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV).
Matthew 7:14: change "narrow is the way" to "difficult is the way". There's nothing "difficult" about the salvation of Jesus Christ! Jesus says in Matt. 11:30, "For my yoke is EASY, and my burden is light." THE EXACT OPPOSITE! Boy, you talk about a contradiction!
Matthew 12:40: change "whale" to "fish" (ditto NIV) I don't guess it matters (what's the truth got to do with it?), the Greek word used in Matthew 12:40 is ketos. The scientific study of whales just happens to be - CETOLOGY - from the Greek ketos for whale and logos for study! The scientific name for whales just happens to be - CETACEANS - from the Greek ketos for whale!
Matthew 18:26 & Matthew 20:20: The NKJV removes "worshipped him" (robbing worship from Jesus) (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)
Mark 13:6 & Luke 21:8: removes "Christ" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)
John 1:3: change "All things were made BY him;" to "All things were made THROUGH Him" (NIV, NRSV, RSV)
John 4:24: change "God is a spirit" to the impersonal, New Age pantheistic,"God is spirit" (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)
John 14:2: (NKJV 1979 edition) change "mansions" to "dwelling places" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)
John 14:16: change "comforter" to "helper"(refers to Holy Spirit) (NASV)
Acts 4:27, 30: change "holy child" to "holy servant" (refers to Jesus) (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)
Acts 12:4: change "Easter" to "Passover" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)
Acts 17:22: changes "superstitious" to "religious" (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)
Acts 24:14: change "heresy" to "sect" (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)
Romans 1:18: change "hold the truth" to "suppress the truth" (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)
Romans 1:25: change "changed the truth" to "exchanged the truth" (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)
Romans 5:8: change "commendeth" to "demonstrates" (NIV, NASV)
Romans 16:18: change "good words and fair speeches" to "smooth words and flattering speech" (NIV, NASV, NRSV)
1 Cor. 1:21: change "foolishness of preaching" to "foolishness of the message preached" (ditto NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV) There's nothing foolish about the gospel of Jesus Christ. Unless you're not saved! 1 Cor. 1:18 says: "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish FOOLISHNESS. . ." I wonder where that leaves the translators of the NKJV, NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV?
1 Cor. 1:22: change "require" to "request" (NASV)
1 Cor. 6:9: removes "effeminate" (NIV, NRSV, RSV)
1 Cor. 9:27: change "castaway" to "disqualified" (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)
2 Cor. 2:10: change "person of Christ" to "presence of Christ" (NASV, NRSV, RSV)
2 Cor. 2:17: With all the "corruptions" in the NKJV, you'd expect 2 Cor. 2:17 to change. IT DOES! They change, "For we not as many which CORRUPT the word of God" to "For we are not, as so many, PEDDLING the word of God" (ditto NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)
2 Cor. 5:17: change "new creature" to "new creation" (NIV, NRSV, RSV)
2 Cor. 10:5: change "imaginations" to "arguments". Considering New Age "imaging" and "visualization" is now entering the church, this verse in the "old" KJV just won't do. (NIV, RSV)
2 Cor. 11:6: change "rude in speech" to "untrained in speech" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)
Gal. 2:20: omit "nevertheless I live" (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)
Phil. 2:6: (NKJV 1979e.) change "thought it not robbery to be equal with God" to "did not consider equality with God something to be grasped". (robs Jesus Christ of deity) (NIV, NASV, RSV)
Phil. 3:8: change "dung" to "rubbish" (NIV, NASV, NRSV)
1 Thess. 5:22 change "all appearance of evil" to "every form of evil" (NASV, RSV, NSRV)
1 Timothy 6:5: The NKJV changes "gain is godliness" to "godliness is a MEANS OF gain". There are NO Greek texts with "means of" in them! Where, oh where, did they come from? Care to take a wild guess? YOU GOT IT! The NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!
1 Timothy 6:10: The NKJV changes "For the love of money is the root of all evil:" to "For the love of money is a root of all KINDS OF evil". The words "KINDS OF" are found in NO Greek text in the world! Where did they get them? Straight from the NIV, NASV, NRSV!
1 Tim. 6:20: change "science" to "knowledge" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)
Titus 3:10: change "heretic" to "divisive man" (NIV)
Hebrews 4:8 & Acts 7:45: "Jesus" is changed to "Joshua". (NIV, NASV, RSV)
2 Pet. 2:1: change "damnable heresies" to "destructive heresies" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)
1 John 3:16: remove "love of God"; (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)
1 John 5:13: The NKJV reads: "These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you mayCONTINUE TO believe in the name of the Son of God." They add "CONTINUE TO" without any Greek text whatsoever! Not even the perverted NIV, NASV, NRSV and RSV go that far! A cruel, subtil (see Genesis 3:1) attack on the believer's eternal security!
Rev. 2:13: change "Satan's seat" to "Satan's throne" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)
Rev. 6:14: "Heaven" is changed to "sky" in (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)
AND THAT DOESN'T SCRATCH THE SURFACE OF ALL THE CHANGES!
The NKJV removes the word "Lord" 66 times!
The NKJV removes the word God 51 times!
The NKJV removes the word "heaven" 50 times!
In just the New Testament alone the NKJV removes 2.289 words from the KJV!
The NKJV makes over 100,000 word changes!
And most will match the NIV, NASV, RSV, or RSV!
And Thomas Nelson Publishers have the audacity to claim in an ad for the NKJV (Moody Monthly, June 1982, back cover), "NOTHING HAS BEEN CHANGED except to make the original meaning clearer."
The New King James is a COUNTERFEIT!
It's NOT NEW! The changes are already in the NIV, NASV, NRSV, or RSV!
And it's certainly NOT true to the 1611 King James Bible!
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A simple single sentance would have sufficed, "new King James version is evil and will send you to Hell". Sorry, I am not wading through all that copy and paste, I just dont have the time.
I have also pointed out many a time that all the missing verses you post regarding NIV are clearly printed as a footnote in my NIV. There is also a comprehensive explanation as to why verses are "missing", but they are not actually missing.
Anyone with even an low IQ can work out what is being conveyed from reading several different translations and can easily spot any "differences". No one is going to hell because of reading a bible other than King James. People go to hell for rejecting Christ. Over the decades of Bible study, I have spotted quite a few errors in translation in the King James, its not perfect. No translation of a translation is going to be perfect, the only perfect copy is the original language. What were all the texts in Bible originally written in? It was not English that is for sure.
The King James Bible came about as a result of the English breaking away from Rome and setting up a Protestant church , the Church of England, therefore it was obvious having a Bible in English was important. Had we all been speaking Welsh then it would have been in Welsh, had we been speaking Nogu Noggin then it would have been in Nogu Noggin language.
Your King James only cult is wicked and evil as it spreads fear and condemnation. It is also amazingly flawed as it overlooks the fact not everyone in world speaks English, so I guess all non-English speaking people are going to hell as well for reading a non-english bible.
yes the King James Bible was a huge breakthrough and important, but to give it cult status that its the only true Bible is miles off the mark and to claim it is, is just nonsense .
I have also pointed out many a time that all the missing verses you post regarding NIV are clearly printed as a footnote in my NIV. There is also a comprehensive explanation as to why verses are "missing", but they are not actually missing.
Anyone with even an low IQ can work out what is being conveyed from reading several different translations and can easily spot any "differences". No one is going to hell because of reading a bible other than King James. People go to hell for rejecting Christ. Over the decades of Bible study, I have spotted quite a few errors in translation in the King James, its not perfect. No translation of a translation is going to be perfect, the only perfect copy is the original language. What were all the texts in Bible originally written in? It was not English that is for sure.
The King James Bible came about as a result of the English breaking away from Rome and setting up a Protestant church , the Church of England, therefore it was obvious having a Bible in English was important. Had we all been speaking Welsh then it would have been in Welsh, had we been speaking Nogu Noggin then it would have been in Nogu Noggin language.
Your King James only cult is wicked and evil as it spreads fear and condemnation. It is also amazingly flawed as it overlooks the fact not everyone in world speaks English, so I guess all non-English speaking people are going to hell as well for reading a non-english bible.
yes the King James Bible was a huge breakthrough and important, but to give it cult status that its the only true Bible is miles off the mark and to claim it is, is just nonsense .
Heres a thought for you. Why does the Holy Spirit show me stuff reading the NIV? If King James was only "true Bible" then dont you think all the people like myself who know Jesus and Holy Spirit will have red flags thrown up and be told "Do not read this"?
Its same with many other points, proof of the pudding is in the eating, you can argue all you like, but actions speak louder than words. People say you should not do XYZ or such and such is not right, yet in my life and in my walk I do those things with belssing of God and experience then with Christ and Holy Spirit, so it is with King James only, if it really was bad, then dont you think Holy SPirit would have red flagged it for me and I would know within my own spirit it was wrong.
The only reason I am posting these things is that people need to know King James only cult is dangerous and should be avoided, sure read the King James if you can understand that archaic language, but people should know its are not going to hell for reading anything else.
Its same with many other points, proof of the pudding is in the eating, you can argue all you like, but actions speak louder than words. People say you should not do XYZ or such and such is not right, yet in my life and in my walk I do those things with belssing of God and experience then with Christ and Holy Spirit, so it is with King James only, if it really was bad, then dont you think Holy SPirit would have red flagged it for me and I would know within my own spirit it was wrong.
The only reason I am posting these things is that people need to know King James only cult is dangerous and should be avoided, sure read the King James if you can understand that archaic language, but people should know its are not going to hell for reading anything else.