The Biblical Truth About Hell & How Yeshua (Joshua) Became Jesus (Learn the Hebrew origin of our Lord's teaching & our "Christianity" )

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Feb 28, 2016
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knuckle-heads =

who has the last word -
who thinks that they are the only one who is right -
who can't hear their own mouths -
who thinks that Jesus is their 'subservient???
 

jb

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Strange as it may seem there are literally millions of none Muslims in London. The way the US media reports it one would think
we are all barracked up in shelters as hoards of terrorists roam the streets as they do in Syria. Yes we have had some terrorist incidents
as there have been in other European countries. but not as many compared to the situation we had in the 70's and 80.s when IRA terrorism was rife. So far no one has attempted to blow up our government at a seaside conference yet.
Dear Maggie had a real lucky escape that day (it actually occurred late in the evening if I remember correctly), I'm sure the Lord had a hand in that...

PIRA/Republican terrorism on the mainland back then occurred quite regularly, however In NI at that time it was an absolute nightmare, something that I lived through on a daily basis for 16 years after which time I went and lived in Bournemouth, which was so different, a lovely civilized place!
 
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The same tenor as the other minor number of persons here who hope to rewrite the Bible regardless of what Christ actually had to say.
People get it. It's impossible to miss when it is so brazen and sarcastic purporting to further its agenda.

There is a minor faction of people here who hope to extricate the Jewish prophecy of Messiah from the scriptures. Their Jesus becomes a Caucasian who came to the world to establish Christianity. Because he was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Christianity.....

Did Jesus break with Judaism and the Torah?

Sisters and brothers in Christ take note, that faction will never read the article above. But if you do you will know what they are about.

don't you mean fellow Sabbath keepers? let's try to keep things accurate in who you are actually addressing here

that faction, Sabbath keepers, will never stop working and make an idol out of the 4th commandment, thereby disobeying the first one
 

Grandpa

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The same tenor as the other minor number of persons here who hope to rewrite the Bible regardless of what Christ actually had to say.
People get it. It's impossible to miss when it is so brazen and sarcastic purporting to further its agenda.

There is a minor faction of people here who hope to extricate the Jewish prophecy of Messiah from the scriptures. Their Jesus becomes a Caucasian who came to the world to establish Christianity. Because he was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Christianity.....

Did Jesus break with Judaism and the Torah?

Sisters and brothers in Christ take note, that faction will never read the article above. But if you do you will know what they are about.
You forgot to play the "anti-semite" card.

Are you saving that for later?

Here's some more scripture if you want to learn instead of pushing your vain imaginings.

Galatians 3:2-3
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit(Christianity), are ye now made perfect by the flesh(Judaism)?

Galatians 3:24-26
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

That seems pretty simple and straightforward. THe law, set forth by Judaism, Moses law, the 10 commandments, was to bring us to Christ. And BY the Authority and Power of Christ we are no longer under that schoolmaster. Why? Because Christ FULFILLED, FINISHED, that covenant that we couldn't bear, (Judaism), and gave us something much better. Himself. The New Covenant.

Galatians 4:4-6
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Galatians 4:23-31
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.


It doesn't take too much reading for this to become pretty clear.


Do you ever wonder if true hatred would be telling a jewish person who is practicing Judaism that its ok they are on the precise path to God and His Kingdom that God intended?

I'm sorry but no. All of the traditions that came before must be abandoned in favor of Faith In Christ and His Work of Salvation.

Not hoping that there is some "dual covenant" situation and maybe in a few thousand years some of these mis-interpreted prophecies will come true for the physical people of the state of Israel instead of the Real Spiritual People of Christ.
 
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Chritian God chosen people They were first called Christians in Antioch. That was an insult in those days. We were first called, the people of the way. Or, the people of the Book.
Jesus first Disciples were Jews who accepted him as the prophesied Messiah. Christianity, as most of us know, has Jewish roots. Our Savior was a Jew. :)

Learn the scriptures by learning what foundation they were built upon. Very short engaging videos. I look forward to your thoughts.
His foundation is systematic theology according the doctrine of God, inspired from above. Not earthly inspired from the father of lies.

They are built on God not seen and not any man seen. Christian the new name God promised to name His people Zion the heavenly city in Isaiah 62 also called Jerusalem .

For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.Isaiah 62:1-2

The name he named us in Acts fulfills His promise above

God is not a unconverted Jew as a Jewish bigot. Jews stand in the same place as gentile sinners .No eternal Spirit of Christ, the new birth. No salvation as born again

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his

Christian is not a derogatory name. It simply mean without adding any other meaning exactly what he in intended it to mean as a reflection of the heavenly City the New heavenly Jerusalem prepared as His bride

.Christians with no other meaning added is simply .... residents of the city of Christ .

God who is no respecter of persons is not a man as us and neither is there any earthen fleshly mediator between God and man as a infallible umpire set between God and man .

For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.Job :32-33

When the son of man, Jesus was called good teacher he did not accept it as worship but rather gave glory to the father unseen, and said: only God is good. and if he did not go disappearing out of sight....the Holy Spirit would not come. We are to call no man "good teacher" on earth for one is our Rabbi( Master) in heaven .Just as in the same way we are to call no man on earth father for one is our father not seen in heaven. we are sister and brothers .

No man can serve two teaching masters one sen and the other not seen . For any man will love the one and hate the other or hate the one and love the other. We continue to walk by faith (the unseen eternal)

Christians are made aware of the wiles of the devil.

32 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment.


33 Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.
 

OstrichSmiling

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His foundation is systematic theology according the doctrine of God, inspired from above. Not earthly inspired from the father of lies.

They are built on God not seen and not any man seen. Christian the new name God promised to name His people Zion the heavenly city in Isaiah 62 also called Jerusalem .

For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.Isaiah 62:1-2

The name he named us in Acts fulfills His promise above

God is not a unconverted Jew as a Jewish bigot. Jews stand in the same place as gentile sinners .No eternal Spirit of Christ, the new birth. No salvation as born again

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his

Christian is not a derogatory name. It simply mean without adding any other meaning exactly what he in intended it to mean as a reflection of the heavenly City the New heavenly Jerusalem prepared as His bride

.Christians with no other meaning added is simply .... residents of the city of Christ .

God who is no respecter of persons is not a man as us and neither is there any earthen fleshly mediator between God and man as a infallible umpire set between God and man .

For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.Job :32-33

When the son of man, Jesus was called good teacher he did not accept it as worship but rather gave glory to the father unseen, and said: only God is good. and if he did not go disappearing out of sight....the Holy Spirit would not come. We are to call no man "good teacher" on earth for one is our Rabbi( Master) in heaven .Just as in the same way we are to call no man on earth father for one is our father not seen in heaven. we are sister and brothers .

No man can serve two teaching masters one sen and the other not seen . For any man will love the one and hate the other or hate the one and love the other. We continue to walk by faith (the unseen eternal)

Christians are made aware of the wiles of the devil.

32 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment.


33 Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.
In Antioch when we were first called Christian , it was meant to be derogatory.