THE CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE, to go to The Wedding of the Lamb

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[h=1]Psalm 91 King James Version (KJV)[/h]91 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
 
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ELECT said:
Galatians 4:16King James Version (KJV)

16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
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True we are not enemies.
But what you are doing is just being silly with superficial rabbit trails.
 
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ELECT said:
Psalm 91 King James Version (KJV)

91 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
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Moses wrote that psalm. It is our banner.

That psalm ends with the AC
No protection.
He kills every last saint
It is his job.
 
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arent everyone God talk too here ? but God is a God of truth not lies like the rapture which was made for cowards

God rain stone in the time of Joshua not one touche an Israelite are you saying that God cannot do that again ?
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And when the shout from the archangel comes, "Bride, Come Forth!", and you find out that you were totally wrong all along,

"What are you going to tell GOD?"
 
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ELECT said:
Psalm 91 King James Version (KJV)

91 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
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So how do you explain your interpretation of that to
ALL THE CHRISTIAN MARTYRS OF PAST AND PRESENT?
 
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To Elect. Please, be ready at anytime, don't let death or the rapture overcome you like a thief. For me the tribulation which we are going thru now is enough for me. Christians are being killed every day. We are despised by the world. I don't need to go into the Time of Jacobs' trouble, that is for the Jews <ONLY> we will be gone. and I trust you will go with us, or it is curtains for you. This is my opinion. Love to all, Hoffco
 
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To Elect. the "Christian Jews, the 144,000, of Jacob's Trouble, are killed by the antichrist. They are not spared death by God. Love Hoffco
 
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To Elect. the "Christian Jews, the 144,000, of Jacob's Trouble, are killed by the antichrist. They are not spared death by God. Love Hoffco
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READ IT FOR YOURSELF:


Revelation 7:1-4 (ESV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Then I saw another angel ascending from the rising of the sun, with the seal of the living God, and he called with a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm earth and sea,
[SUP]3 [/SUP] saying, “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.”
[SUP]4 [/SUP] And I heard the number of the sealed, 144,000, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:

THEY ARE SEALED IN THEIR MORTAL BODIES FROM HARM, AND WHAT GOD SEALS, CANNOT BE UNSEALED BY THE DEVIL OR ANY OF HIS DEMONS, OR ANY MAN.

God's plan for them is to enter the 1000 year Kingdom in their Mortal Bodies to continue to possess the land of Canaan, KEEPING the everlasting covenant GOD made with Jacob, giving the land of Canaan forever to the descendants of ISRAEL.

1 Chronicles 16:13-20 (ESV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] O offspring of Israel his servant, children of Jacob, his chosen ones!
[SUP]14 [/SUP] He is the LORD our God; his judgments are in all the earth.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Remember his covenant forever, the word that he commanded, for a thousand generations,
[SUP]16 [/SUP] the covenant that he made with Abraham, his sworn promise to Isaac,
[SUP]17 [/SUP] which he confirmed to Jacob as a statute, to Israel as an everlasting covenant,
[SUP]18 [/SUP] saying, “To you I will give the land of Canaan, as your portion for an inheritance.”
[SUP]19 [/SUP] When you were few in number, of little account, and sojourners in it,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] wandering from nation to nation, from one kingdom to another people,

MORTAL JEWS THEREFORE HAVE TO BE THE INHABITANTS OF THE LAND OF CANAAN IN THE 1000 YEAR KINGDOM WITH JESUS CHRIST ON THE THRONE OF DAVID.
 
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It plainly says in Rev. 20:1-3 ,Satan will be bound up in the pit for 1,000yrs, so He can not deceive the nations of the earth during Jesus' and the Churches' rule of the earth. The SDA have a weird idea that the earth is desolate for the 1,000 yrs. but that is so obvious wrong, it is ridiculous. The nations are still here on earth. and we see in 20:4 that the 144,000 Jews, were beheaded during the terror of the antichrist as soon as the 666 is required , the 144,000. who are claimed for Jesus to save, "sealed" saved by God, in Rev. 7:1 for God, so God's wrath doesn't hurt them, but/so, they will refuse to take the 666 mark of the beast, so they are beheaded, by the Muslim antichrist and His beast. This is what it says in Rev.20:4 "...Then I saw the souls of those who had been BEHEADED for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, WHO HAD NOT WORSHIPED THE BEAST OR HIS IMAGE, AND HAD NOT RECEIVED HIS MARK ON THEIR FOREHEAD OR ON THEIR HANDS. And they LIVED and REIGNED with CHRIST for a thousand years. v.5 " But the rest of the dead(THE LOST, still in the grave and in Hell) did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection." The martyrs are the 2nd phase of the 1st res. unto life. The first phase was raised in the 6th seal. The Martyrs will not have to face the judgment seat of Christ. The righteous dead are raised 1,000 yrs before the wicked dead are raised; But this is STILL the LAST DAY. So Martha was right, the righteous dead rise on/in/during, the "LAST DAY" . prophetic DAY. We must remember, that God wants to keep the end time a mystery, only really understood in the end time,, the end time ,literal days, and yrs., the LAST prophetic DAY. MY OPINION. Love to all, Hoffco ps the 144,000 Jews are saved at the rapture but left on the earth, the only,mortal,saved persons left on the earth at the rapture. AND, the first resurrection is OVER, at the 2nd coming of Jesus; therefore, NO ONE will be saved during the 1,000 yr. reign of Jesus. The 2nd resurrection is only for the lost. This is a BIG mystery for me. ???? I may not understand God's plan; BUT, I am not supposed too. SO be it.! Hoffco
 
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It plainly says in Rev. 20:1-3 ,Satan will be bound up in the pit for 1,000yrs, so He can not deceive the nations of the earth during Jesus' and the Churches' rule of the earth. The SDA have a weird idea that the earth is desolate for the 1,000 yrs. but that is so obvious wrong, it is ridiculous. The nations are still here on earth. and we see in 20:4 that the 144,000 Jews, were beheaded during the terror of the antichrist as soon as the 666 is required , the 144,000. who are claimed for Jesus to save, "sealed" saved by God, in Rev. 7:1 for God, so God's wrath doesn't hurt them, but/so, they will refuse to take the 666 mark of the beast, so they are beheaded, by the Muslim antichrist and His beast. This is what it says in Rev.20:4 "...Then I saw the souls of those who had been BEHEADED for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, WHO HAD NOT WORSHIPED THE BEAST OR HIS IMAGE, AND HAD NOT RECEIVED HIS MARK ON THEIR FOREHEAD OR ON THEIR HANDS. And they LIVED and REIGNED with CHRIST for a thousand years. v.5 " But the rest of the dead(THE LOST, still in the grave and in Hell) did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection." The martyrs are the 2nd phase of the 1st res. unto life. The first phase was raised in the 6th seal. The Martyrs will not have to face the judgment seat of Christ. The righteous dead are raised 1,000 yrs before the wicked dead are raised; But this is STILL the LAST DAY. So Martha was right, the righteous dead rise on/in/during, the "LAST DAY" . prophetic DAY. We must remember, that God wants to keep the end time a mystery, only really understood in the end time,, the end time ,literal days, and yrs., the LAST prophetic DAY. MY OPINION. Love to all, Hoffco ps the 144,000 Jews are saved at the rapture but left on the earth, the only,mortal,saved persons left on the earth at the rapture. AND, the first resurrection is OVER, at the 2nd coming of Jesus; therefore, NO ONE will be saved during the 1,000 yr. reign of Jesus. The 2nd resurrection is only for the lost. This is a BIG mystery for me. ???? I may not understand God's plan; BUT, I am not supposed too. SO be it.! Hoffco
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Hoffco, try actually reading my posts next time.

The Bride of Christ is made up of three groups, NONE OF WHICH ARE PART OF THE 144,000 Jews that GOD seals in their mortal bodies, to Continue his Everlasting Covenant that He confirmed with Jacob.

The Bride of Christ is made up of these three groups of Believers, the Assembly HE has built:

O.T. Saints who Believed GOD that Messiah would come.
Church Age Saints who believed GOD that Messiah did come in the body of Jesus Christ.
Tribulation Saints who had not made a decision for Christ in the Church Age, but DO, and refuse to denounce Christ and then are beheaded for it.

ALL 144,000 sealed from HARM, go into the 1000 Year Kingdom in their living Mortal bodies, are all Descendents of ISRAEL, as GOD continues His EVERLASTING COVENANT WITH the descendents of ISRAEL, that GOD confirmed with Jacob. What part of Descendents of Israel and EVERLASTING COVENANT, do you not understand? LOOK IT UP. WE will be in our resurrected IMMORTAL bodies.

AND let me BLOW your wild theory out of the water, that NO BODY is getting Saved in the KINGDOM.

IT SAYS WE ARE GOING TO Reign with Him as Priests over those Mortals in the KINGDOM. The only way the No ONE would not be SAVED; is IF the Holy Spirit and everyone of us STOPS DOING OUR JOBS. Again, Look It Up.

The First Resurrection comes in three stages, The O.T and N.T. Saints First, the Tribulation Saints Second, Believers who die in the Kingdom Third. THEN AFTER THE 1000 Year Kingdom is OVER the Second Resurrection of the UNBELIEVERS will happen just before the Judgement Day.

Isaiah 65:20 (GW)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] There will no longer be an infant who lives for only a few days or an old man who doesn't live a long life. Whoever lives to be a hundred years old will be thought of as young. Whoever dies before he is a hundred years old will be cursed as a sinner. {IMPLYING THAT WHOEVER LIVES TO BE MUCH OLDER before he dies will NOT BE A SINNER. THUS THE HOLY SPIRIT IS STILL GETTING PEOPLE SAVED IN THE KINGDOM.}

It will be like the Garden of Eden, and people will live to be several hundred years old, but they are still Mortals and will die.
 
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So how do you explain your interpretation of that to
ALL THE CHRISTIAN MARTYRS OF PAST AND PRESENT?
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Did they get plagues by God as the pslam is addressing ?

you are so blinded by your fantacy rapt theory that you dont even see the true meaning of the plsams

plagues are for the wicked

[h=1]Psalm 116:15King James Version (KJV)[/h]15 Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints.
 
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Hoffco, try actually reading my posts next time.

The Bride of Christ is made up of three groups, NONE OF WHICH ARE PART OF THE 144,000 Jews that GOD seals in their mortal bodies, to Continue his Everlasting Covenant that He confirmed with Jacob.

The Bride of Christ is made up of these three groups of Believers, the Assembly HE has built:

O.T. Saints who Believed GOD that Messiah would come.
Church Age Saints who believed GOD that Messiah did come in the body of Jesus Christ.
Tribulation Saints who had not made a decision for Christ in the Church Age, but DO, and refuse to denounce Christ and then are beheaded for it.

ALL 144,000 sealed from HARM, go into the 1000 Year Kingdom in their living Mortal bodies, are all Descendents of ISRAEL, as GOD continues His EVERLASTING COVENANT WITH the descendents of ISRAEL, that GOD confirmed with Jacob. What part of Descendents of Israel and EVERLASTING COVENANT, do you not understand? LOOK IT UP. WE will be in our resurrected IMMORTAL bodies.

AND let me BLOW your wild theory out of the water, that NO BODY is getting Saved in the KINGDOM.

IT SAYS WE ARE GOING TO Reign with Him as Priests over those Mortals in the KINGDOM. The only way the No ONE would not be SAVED; is IF the Holy Spirit and everyone of us STOPS DOING OUR JOBS. Again, Look It Up.

The First Resurrection comes in three stages, The O.T and N.T. Saints First, the Tribulation Saints Second, Believers who die in the Kingdom Third. THEN AFTER THE 1000 Year Kingdom is OVER the Second Resurrection of the UNBELIEVERS will happen just before the Judgement Day.

Isaiah 65:20 (GW)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] There will no longer be an infant who lives for only a few days or an old man who doesn't live a long life. Whoever lives to be a hundred years old will be thought of as young. Whoever dies before he is a hundred years old will be cursed as a sinner. {IMPLYING THAT WHOEVER LIVES TO BE MUCH OLDER before he dies will NOT BE A SINNER. THUS THE HOLY SPIRIT IS STILL GETTING PEOPLE SAVED IN THE KINGDOM.}

It will be like the Garden of Eden, and people will live to be several hundred years old, but they are still Mortals and will die.
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what they go into the 1000 with their mortal bodies yet they are the firstfruits to God standining on the Mt
 
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READ IT FOR YOURSELF:


Revelation 7:1-4 (ESV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Then I saw another angel ascending from the rising of the sun, with the seal of the living God, and he called with a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm earth and sea,
[SUP]3 [/SUP] saying, “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.”
[SUP]4 [/SUP] And I heard the number of the sealed, 144,000, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:

THEY ARE SEALED IN THEIR MORTAL BODIES FROM HARM, AND WHAT GOD SEALS, CANNOT BE UNSEALED BY THE DEVIL OR ANY OF HIS DEMONS, OR ANY MAN.

God's plan for them is to enter the 1000 year Kingdom in their Mortal Bodies to continue to possess the land of Canaan, KEEPING the everlasting covenant GOD made with Jacob, giving the land of Canaan forever to the descendants of ISRAEL.

1 Chronicles 16:13-20 (ESV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] O offspring of Israel his servant, children of Jacob, his chosen ones!
[SUP]14 [/SUP] He is the LORD our God; his judgments are in all the earth.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Remember his covenant forever, the word that he commanded, for a thousand generations,
[SUP]16 [/SUP] the covenant that he made with Abraham, his sworn promise to Isaac,
[SUP]17 [/SUP] which he confirmed to Jacob as a statute, to Israel as an everlasting covenant,
[SUP]18 [/SUP] saying, “To you I will give the land of Canaan, as your portion for an inheritance.”
[SUP]19 [/SUP] When you were few in number, of little account, and sojourners in it,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] wandering from nation to nation, from one kingdom to another people,

MORTAL JEWS THEREFORE HAVE TO BE THE INHABITANTS OF THE LAND OF CANAAN IN THE 1000 YEAR KINGDOM WITH JESUS CHRIST ON THE THRONE OF DAVID.
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Are you saying the church is not sealed also ? Why or Why not ?
 
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To Elect. Please, be ready at anytime, don't let death or the rapture overcome you like a thief. For me the tribulation which we are going thru now is enough for me. Christians are being killed every day. We are despised by the world. I don't need to go into the Time of Jacobs' trouble, that is for the Jews <ONLY> we will be gone. and I trust you will go with us, or it is curtains for you. This is my opinion. Love to all, Hoffco
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those realize the rapture is a lie will cry when the world is going through tribulation and they are not able to through it Why because they thought they will be gone
 
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And when the shout from the archangel comes, "Bride, Come Forth!", and you find out that you were totally wrong all along,

"What are you going to tell GOD?"
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please tell me that God cannot send plagues and it only touch the wicked and not the righteous ? Are you saying that He cannot
 
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Note :There are seven trumpets mentioned in the Book of Revelation (Rev.8:6). From the first trumpet to the seventh trumpet the world will be undergoing the Great Tribulation (Rev. 8:7-13; 9:1-21 Rev 16:1-21).
It is only at the seventh trumpet after the tribulation Jesus appears for His Church
(Luke 21:25-28 Mark 13:24-28)


Will the saints be resurrected before or after the seven trumpets sound ?
1 Corinthians 15:51-53 Revelation 10:7


51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.


7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.


NOTE: THE SEVENTH ANGEL SOUNDS THE 7TH TRUMPET WHICH SIGNALS JESUS RETURN WITH THE TRUMP OF GOD TO RESURRECT THE SAINTS AND GATHER HIS CHURCH.


How many times does the bible say that Jesus will come again ?


Hebrews 9:28
28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
 
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And when the shout from the archangel comes, "Bride, Come Forth!", and you find out that you were totally wrong all along,

"What are you going to tell GOD?"
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Will the saints be gathered secretly or with a great sound of a trumpet ?
Matthew 24:31, 40-42
31 And he shall SEND HIS ANGELS WITH A GREAT SOUND OF A TRUMPET, and they shall gathertogether his elect ( SAINTS )from the four winds, from one end of heaven (THE AIR AND IN THE CLOUDS 1ST HEAVEN) to the other.
 
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Will the saints be gathered secretly or with a great sound of a trumpet ?
Matthew 24:31, 40-42
31 And he shall SEND HIS ANGELS WITH A GREAT SOUND OF A TRUMPET, and they shall gathertogether his elect ( SAINTS )from the four winds, from one end of heaven (THE AIR AND IN THE CLOUDS 1ST HEAVEN) to the other.
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I have told you before, there is NO SECRET RAPTURE, that description was coined by unbelievers in the Rapture who have NO IDEA what we really believe in.

In the RAPTURE, YES there will be a Trumpet call, and YES we believe the Rapture is described in this portion of Scripture, and YES we believe this can only happen before the Tribulation begins:

1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 (HCSB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the archangel’s voice, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Then we who are still alive will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so we will always be with the Lord.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Therefore encourage one another with these words.

As for any more questions:

Do the research for yourself, I grow weary of questions that appear to only have a motive of trying to find a flaw in what we believe.

I will give you a couple links to get you started, just in case I am wrong and you really want to learn, but I seriously doubt if you will even look at them. The study of the Seven Feasts of Israel answers a great deal about Christ choosing and calling out of the bride. Trumpets were used frequently in the Feasts practiced by and fulfilled by Christ in his days on Earth. The Feast of Trumpet is explained by Zola Levitt, in great detail. Also, Christ would have been familiar with the Trumpet calls of the Roman Army. The Roman Armies primary trumpet calls were as follows:

First Trump = Assembly Call!
Second Trump = Come to Attention, as our Drill Instructor in the Military would have shouted - TEN HUT!
Last Trump = Forward March!

Do I personally believe those are trumpets mentioned in 1 Thes. 4:16? NO! I believe it will the Jewish Ram's Horn, the Shofar that is talked about in the following video. A Trumpet was ALWAYS blow to Call the Assembly together to Celebrate a Jewish Feast. What greater TRUMPET Call can there be than to ASSEMBLE to go the Wedding of the Lamb, hence it is called the LAST TRUMP. I believe every born again Christian, including the dead, will HEAR that SHOUT and Trumpet Call in his or her heart and respond to it without any hesitation or thinking about it. As Lightning FLASHES from the east to the west, we will be gone.


[video=youtube;TL2R4vi2egI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL2R4vi2egI[/video]


ZLM Video Series: “The Seven Feasts of Israel”


The Marriage of Jesus and The Elect
 
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It does not surprise me, that if they want a reason to NOT BELIEVE,
they will always find one, even if it is a misinterpretation or complete falsehood;
and then ridicule and scoff at those who KNOW HIM and BELIEVE.
 
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