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ResidentAlien

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FollowingtheWay said:
is it tightrope though? Or is it balance a vigilance of the heart and where our heart moves on these divisive issues ? understanding the human heart can be swerved into cold,rigid and formal, knowing scriptures, being straight as a gunbarrel theologically but being empty of the spirit and of love inside, which is just as off course and sinning as giving license to sin.Satan really doesn’t care how he gets you to sin. Weather by sexual immorality or by spiritual pride.

“You shall be careful therefore to do as the Lord your God has commanded you. You shall not turn aside to the right hand or to the left.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭5‬:‭32‬ ‭ESV‬‬

“Let your eyes look directly forward, and your gaze be straight before you. Ponder the path of your feet; then all your ways will be sure. Do not swerve to the right or to the left; turn your foot away from evil.”
‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭4‬:‭25‬-‭27‬ ‭ESV‬‬
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You don't need to know scripture or have precision theology to understand what The Chosen, Inc. is doing is wrong. That's what's so maddening. It's not loving to tell people that wrong is right or to tell them only what they want to hear; but that seems to be what people have come to expect these days. If you don't accommodate them you're a hateful Pharisee.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
You don't need to know scripture or have precision theology to understand what The Chosen, Inc. is doing is wrong. That's what's so maddening. It's not loving to tell people that wrong is right or to tell them only what they want to hear; but that seems to be what people have come to expect these days. If you don't accommodate them you're a hateful Pharisee.
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My comments a few pages ago were about what the man Dallas had said.
I have not watched the program but a couple times. I did not care for the what i saw but none of my objection were Biblical . My objection were to the drabness and dim light filming. What is it in your opinion the show has wrong?
 
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ResidentAlien said:
You don't need to know scripture or have precision theology to understand what The Chosen, Inc. is doing is wrong. That's what's so maddening. It's not loving to tell people that wrong is right or to tell them only what they want to hear; but that seems to be what people have come to expect these days. If you don't accommodate them you're a hateful Pharisee.
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sounds like something you might need to take to God in prayer and just check yourself. Keeping in mind “I am a sinner, first then sinned against.” I don’t personally know you to speak further. But I’d just ask God in prayer . “Lord. If You are the narrow road and the road is defined by two ditches that we can fall off into - Carnal Christianity giving license to sin and the opposite side being stiff necked, cold, formal and full of religious pride? God where am I on this road? “ Ask Him and He will reveal that to you in His time and ways.
 
HeIsHere

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FollowingtheWay said:
is it tightrope though? Or is it balance a vigilance of the heart and where our heart moves on these divisive issues ? understanding the human heart can be swerved into cold,rigid and formal, knowing scriptures, being straight as a gunbarrel theologically but being empty of the spirit and of love inside, which is just as off course and sinning as giving license to sin.Satan really doesn’t care how he gets you to sin. Weather by sexual immorality or by spiritual pride.

“You shall be careful therefore to do as the Lord your God has commanded you. You shall not turn aside to the right hand or to the left.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭5‬:‭32‬ ‭ESV‬‬

“Let your eyes look directly forward, and your gaze be straight before you. Ponder the path of your feet; then all your ways will be sure. Do not swerve to the right or to the left; turn your foot away from evil.”
‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭4‬:‭25‬-‭27‬ ‭ESV‬‬
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Yes I see you point.

On social media it is not really possible to tailor your comments to suit all the different types of people that might be listening. Those who have staying power and success are those who stick to their view with good reasoning rather than pandering to the audience.
I agree with @ResidentAlien, ultimately there cannot be love without truth and sometimes the issue is the hearer not the messenger.
The promo video was reviewed and they made a decision to leave the flag in it, they did not have to.
Can you really watch a show when two of the actors are on Twitter speaking their contempt towards Christians?

How ironic the actors despise their own audience for believing in the authentic Jesus. Can the western society become any more messed up, and people on here still defend the show.
 
HeIsHere

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FollowingtheWay said:
sounds like something you might need to take to God in prayer and just check yourself. Keeping in mind “I am a sinner, first then sinned against.” I don’t personally know you to speak further. But I’d just ask God in prayer . “Lord. If You are the narrow road and the road is defined by two ditches that we can fall off into - Carnal Christianity giving license to sin and the opposite side being stiff necked, cold, formal and full of religious pride? God where am I on this road? “ Ask Him and He will reveal that to you in His time and ways.
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That is not at all what I read in @ResidentAlien post. There was no religious pride, it is about defending the character of the authentic Jesus who never once made light of sin.

Some things really are black and white, we are not speaking about if the lights should be on or off during service.
 
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HeIsHere said:
we are not speaking about if the lights should be on or off during service.
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Neither am I. I’m addressing something a bit deeper. Like what is the position of our hearts when we get to some controversy like this? Do we lovingly rebuke with a heart of compassion “gently restoring” or do we drop a hard, rigid hammer of condemnation on even the slightest disagreement. Which may not even be a disagreement biblically but perhaps different “church culture” . Are we bring our own bias into how we judge a production? I’m not saying the Chosen inc walks on clouds , clearly they have some issues to sort out ….. Lest we bring up Mel Gibsons personal issues as a producer of The Passion? Should we cancel The Passion of Christ and boycot it because of Mel’s AntiJew rants? Where is the voice of reason. What should guide our thoughts and emotions simply pausing to Ask WWJD solves 90% of these issues. And I’m just as guilty at this as anyone.
 
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Neither am I. I’m addressing something a bit deeper. Like what is the position of our hearts when we get to some controversy like this? Do we lovingly rebuke with a heart of compassion “gently restoring” or do we drop a hard, rigid hammer of condemnation on even the slightest disagreement. Which may not even be a disagreement biblically but perhaps different “church culture” . Are we bring our own bias into how we judge a production? I’m not saying the Chosen inc walks on clouds , clearly they have some issues to sort out ….. Lest we bring up Mel Gibsons personal issues as a producer of The Passion? Should we cancel The Passion of Christ and boycot it because of Mel’s AntiJew rants? Where is the voice of reason. What should guide our thoughts and emotions simply pausing to Ask WWJD solves 90% of these issues. And I’m just as guilty at this as anyone.
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Who are trying to restore here, Dallas Jenkins?
 
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Who are trying to restore here, Dallas Jenkins?
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Anyone reading whom the Holy Spirit convicts. So If the shoe fits… I will leave the rest to Him.
 
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FollowingtheWay said:
Anyone reading whom the Holy Spirit convicts. So If the shoe fits… I will leave the rest to Him.
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I just disagree, sometimes condemnation is required because somethings are like a cancer they spread and take over because they were not stopped and dealt with at the beginning.

My point is to be aware and informed and not dismiss what are obvious problems/concerns just like in the Passion of the Christ and every other movie about Jesus.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
You don't need to know scripture or have precision theology to understand what The Chosen, Inc. is doing is wrong. That's what's so maddening. It's not loving to tell people that wrong is right or to tell them only what they want to hear; but that seems to be what people have come to expect these days. If you don't accommodate them you're a hateful Pharisee.
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Progressive Christians ... I think that may be an oxymoron or certainly a case of profound cognitive dissonance.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
You don't need to know scripture or have precision theology to understand what The Chosen, Inc. is doing is wrong.
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Agreed, is it as equal as this?
Southern Baptist hiding multi-cases of Sex Abuse, to which, the Department of Justice needed to do its own investigation?

That's what's so maddening.
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Incredible huh?
Largest Protestant Denomination and people are still scrambling to cover up for them.

It's not loving to tell people that wrong is right or to tell them only what they want to hear; but that seems to be what people have come to expect these days.
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How many like Doctrines, of the Southern Baptist, do you adhere to?

If you don't accommodate them you're a hateful Pharisee.
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Tell me about it, I know, from first hand experience!
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
Agreed, is it as equal as this?
Southern Baptist hiding multi-cases of Sex Abuse, to which, the Department of Justice needed to do its own investigation?
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Why do people compare apples to oranges? :unsure:
 
The_Watchers_2017

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HeIsHere said:
Indeed.... bored fruit, I say let the dog play with them, that should solve the problem!! :)
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I shut down your pre-Mill buddy today with Fact, since I am well aware of all of the False Doctrines that you adhere to, it is very important to understand what your level of Wrong is.

So far, it is CONVENIENT!
 
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I shut down your pre-Mill buddy today with Fact, since I am well aware of all of the False Doctrines that you adhere to, it is very important to understand what your level of Wrong is.

So far, it is CONVENIENT!
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Wow, I have a pre-mill buddy, who knew!

Funny I am not even pre-mill, I will need to set him straight asap who is it?
 
The_Watchers_2017

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HeIsHere said:
Wow, I have a pre-mill buddy, who knew!

Funny I am not even pre-mill, I will need to set him straight asap who is it?
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Do we, or do we not, have a Post History, that includes you thinking, Apostle John, wrote Revelation before 70 AD and that Revelation is explaining 70 AD?

I can look?
 
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