The Coming Mark of the Beast

[christig]

huh interesting what made you think of a name inscribed on the forehead? is this something you have seen people mention a name on the forehead?

Some times things are right in the face up close in front of folks, though are hidden because of spiritual blindness.

Here are the scriptures concerning the name on the foreheads,

Then I looked and saw the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred forty-four thousand who had His name and His Father's name written on their foreheads. (Revelation 14:1)

They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. (Revelation 22:4 [NIV])

 

[valiant]

Here are the scriptures concerning the name on the foreheads,

Then I looked and saw the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred forty-four thousand who had His name and His Father's name written on their foreheads. (Revelation 14:1)

They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. (Revelation 22:4 [NIV])

Yes we will all have His name on our foreheads. For we are His elect.

 

[valiant]

Let me ask you something, are you aware that usury and interest are abominations?

They WERE not ARE. Israel as it was no longer exists,

 

[christig]

They WERE not ARE. Israel as it was no longer exists,

So according to you now it is now okay to exact interest and make profit from someone who needed to borrow? Hmmmmmm, I wonder what Ezekiel, or Nehemiah would say to you,

I took counsel with myself, and I brought charges against the nobles and the officials. I said to them, “You are exacting interest, each from his brother.” And I held a great assembly against them and said to them, “We, as far as we are able, have bought back our Jewish brothers who have been sold to the nations, but you even sell your brothers that they may be sold to us!” They were silent and could not find a word to say. So I said, “The thing that you are doing is not good. Ought you not to walk in the fear of our God to prevent the taunts of the nations our enemies? Moreover, I and my brothers and my servants are lending them money and grain. Let us abandon this exacting of interest. (Nehemiah 5:7-10 [ESV])

engages in usury… Will he live? He will not! Because he has done all these abominable deeds he will certainly die. He will bear the responsibility for his own death. (Ezekiel 18:13 [NETBIBLE])

…and shall not take money by usury; he shall turn his hand from injustice; he shall execute a just judgment between a man and his neighbor; (Ezekiel 18:8 [ABP])

…charges interest. Will he live? He will not! Because he has done all these abominable deeds he will certainly die. He will bear the responsibility for his own death. (Ezekiel 18:13 [NETBIBLE])

he shall not give his money with interest… he shall turn his hand from injustice; he shall execute a just judgment between a man and his neighbor; (Ezekiel 18:8 [ABP])​

 

[tourist]

Have you never heard of render unto Caesar what is Caesar's? And pay taxes? Hello?

So, you pay your taxes as you should into the system that you say is evil. How is this less than an abomination than having a social security number and paying taxes? Based on your replies I don't think that you even understand your own post that you wrote about participating in an evil system of usury and interest when you are doing the exact same thing. Doesn't make the least amount of sense to me.

 

[christig]

So, you pay your taxes as you should into the system that you say is evil. How is this less than an abomination than having a social security number and paying taxes? Based on your replies I don't think that you even understand your own post that you wrote about participating in an evil system of usury and interest when you are doing the exact same thing. Doesn't make the least amount of sense to me.

Because paying taxes does not involve usury, nor interest, but paying into social security, and using the banking system does. There is a distinction between these actions, of which the actions involving usury and interest are forbidden in accordance by scripture. Of course its not going to make sense to someone like you, because based on your responses it is clear that you don't want it to make sense. You're a fault finder and a grumbler,

These people are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage. (Jude 1:16 [NIV])

You've gone from different types of reasonings, to how could you pay taxes, or you must barter, and now that paying taxes is evil, these are just all ways to try to find fault to discredit the underlying truth that using systems of usury and interest are evil in accordance to scripture.

 

[GaryA]

Okay one "image" but there are two beasts in the book of Revelation. And I stated earlier, the mark is about the abominations taking place in the Temple, these people honor it. Where the people in Ezekiel mourned over the abomination that were being committed in the Temple. I think it's as simple as worship, no physical mark, satan always counterfeits what God does as in Ezekiel God's mark, Revelation satan's mark both based on worship.

Needless to say, the "essence" of what the mark represents has crept into our various societies at every level - in the form of the 'occult'. However, as a "proper" interpretation of scripture as to what the actual "mark of the beast" is and / or will be -- I believe in the literal interpretation of the 'mark' as a physical implementation "under the skin" or 'embedded' in the skin - "in" the hand or "in" the forehead. I believe that the 'details' of the passages concerning the "mark of the beast" indicate a very literal and physical thing -- it is described as a separate-but-related thing to "worship of the beast"...

 

[GaryA]

10/4?

October 4th?





No, no, no - I am just kidding. I know you are making use of the Citizens Band radio "ten" codes. However, you may wish to consider writing it in its "proper" form - with a dash / hyphen :

10-4

 

[88]

It is truly amazing to watch the word of God unfold before our very eyes. If we can see the stage being set for events that are to take place after the church has been gathered, then how close are we to our blessed hope?


i put a chip in my hand to replace my wallet - Bing video

**" chips are best kept in our hands for snacking...

 

[Katy-follower]

Maybe a chip will be the tool used, but simply having a chip does not send you to hell, so don't get paranoid when you flip through your credit cards, etc

It's possible that communism will require people to be "labeled" in such a way, so as to identify them as part of the system, like a sign of submission to a one world government system. Obviously this creates a God-less world and a dangerous thing to be a believer in Jesus. But the fact that you cannot buy or sell without the mark suggests you will need some kind of proof that you are associated with the beast system in some way, in order to have access to what you need.

It does not all come down to just a mark though. The scriptures state multiple things....

Rev 13:17: "...and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name" - so you either have the mark, or the name, or the number, so one of 3 in order to buy or sell.

Additionally....

Rev 13:4: "....the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed" - so failure to worship the image of the beast system results in death.

So no ability to run your business or buy anything unless you identify with the beast system through the mark, the name or the number of that system. And failure to worship the image of the beast results in death.

Sounds a lot like communism, does it not? Picture a world like North Korea. Scary thought!

I still need to look into this more. I've always believed a Pope will be the antichrist. It's very possible we could have a communist pope, with a communist agenda. It's very possible, as back in November pope Francis showed signs of supporting communism when he stated "communists think like christians" and also he stated "Jesus' life ended in failure, in the failure of the cross" !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow!!

 

[Ahwatukee]

It's possible that communism will require people to be "labeled" in such a way, so as to identify them as part of the system, like a sign of submission to a one world government system. Obviously this creates a God-less world and a dangerous thing to be a believer in Jesus. But the fact that you cannot buy or sell without the mark suggests you will need some kind of proof that you are associated with the beast system in some way, in order to have access to what you need.

Hello Katy-Follower,

The ATM's, the UPC and the POS systems have all been apart of the evolution of the electronic crediting and debiting system. This is the same system that the mark is going to run on and why it has evolved.

Currently buying and selling (crediting and debiting) is done via the swiping of cards, proximity devices such as bank apps on cell phones, Chase's "the square," etc. Currently we have people being implanted under the skin of the hand with RFID chips and that for the purpose of making purchases. What we are seeing is the final phase leading up to the coming mark.

Now, this RFID chip will most likely continue to evolve right up to the time of the beasts reign, becoming small and easier to apply. But what will remain consistent, is that whatever this device evolves into, it will go in/on the hand or the forehead. The mark/device will not need proof that an individual is associated with the beast, for that mark will be the proof.

The mark will be that proverbial line being drawn in the sand in that, all other methods of buying and selling will be made obsolete during the beasts reign so that only the mark will be a valid option for electronic crediting and debiting, which will force people to make a decision to receive the mark or reject it. Unfortunately, many will receive it because it will be the only way to pay for anything. This is the meaning of the scripture which says "He forces all both great and small, rich and poor, free and slave to receive a mark in the hand or the forehead and except anyone had the mark they would not be able to buy or sell." The forcing will not be by physical force, but by making all other methods of buying and selling invalid, leaving only that mark as a means of electronically crediting and debiting ones bank account.

Consequently, anyone who receives the mark will be aligning themselves with the beast providing undeniable identification, like a symbol giving irrefutable connection between parties, which is what the word "Charagma" translate "mark" means. This mark will not only affect communism, but the entire world.

 

[christig]

So, you pay your taxes as you should into the system that you say is evil. How is this less than an abomination than having a social security number and paying taxes? Based on your replies I don't think that you even understand your own post that you wrote about participating in an evil system of usury and interest when you are doing the exact same thing. Doesn't make the least amount of sense to me.

Do you even know what usury and interest are? If I lend to my brother who is in need, and exact interest from him, and make profit out of his need to have to borrow, that is the sin of interest. Or if put out money to make a profit, such as in gambling or insurance, predicated on chance and/or time, that is the sin of usury. In each instance, I am making an unrighteous profit of money, that God does not permit in accordance to his law. This is not the same as paying your taxes, for you are not making an unrighteous profit in paying your taxes, and even the Lord himself stated that we are to pay our taxes. There is no sin in paying taxes, but rather, we are instructed to do so, that we may be at peace with everyone. I have a study related to usury and interest here The Abomination of Usury and Interest, and the Slavery of Debt | Wisdom of God .

 

[willybob]

the supposed coming mark of the beast (stigma of sin) has been working for 6000 years ever since Cain....truth is stranger than fiction..

 

[hornetguy]

Do you even know what usury and interest are? If I lend to my brother who is in need, and exact interest from him, and make profit out of his need to have to borrow, that is the sin of interest. Or if put out money to make a profit, such as in gambling or insurance, predicated on chance and/or time, that is the sin of usury. In each instance, I am making an unrighteous profit of money, that God does not permit in accordance to his law. This is not the same as paying your taxes, for you are not making an unrighteous profit in paying your taxes, and even the Lord himself stated that we are to pay our taxes. There is no sin in paying taxes, but rather, we are instructed to do so, that we may be at peace with everyone. I have a study related to usury and interest here The Abomination of Usury and Interest, and the Slavery of Debt | Wisdom of God .

Do you strictly follow ALL the other Jewish/Hebrew laws? (you know... the ones that Jesus kind of fulfilled?)

There's a BUNCH of 'em, you know....

Strange that you are hung up just on usury and interest.... I might say that was interest-ing...

 

[christig]

Do you strictly follow ALL the other Jewish/Hebrew laws? (you know... the ones that Jesus kind of fulfilled?)

There's a BUNCH of 'em, you know....

Strange that you are hung up just on usury and interest.... I might say that was interest-ing...

Do you not follow them, like "do not murder", "do not commit adultery", "a man should not wear women's clothing"? The commands you discard as rubbish are the commands that Paul spoke of, "murders, adulterers, effeminate will not inherit the kingdom of God".

 

[hornetguy]

So, charging interest on a loan is as bad as murder.... hmmm.

Ok.... I see where you are coming from.

 

[mailmandan]

Cyborgs at work: employees getting implanted with microchips - https://www.yahoo.com/tech/cyborgs-employees-getting-implanted-microchips-125759240.html

 

[Blain]

Ok if social security is apparently the mark of the beast then I guess i have the mark huh? Now I have a this to say, I will let god himself be the judge of me and if in fact this social security is the mark then I will accept whatever cost I will have to face. However I also have this to say I will gamble that I belong to God and am marked by him and I will risk even burning in hell itself with my faith in this. As if something like social security could even begin to hope to challenge my security in him he himself has written the word mine on my forehead and has branded his name on my heart and I as well have written the word mine on his heart and have branded my love and affection on that heart of his with searing heat.

So I challenge this so called mark and lets see how it stacks up against the covenant of the hearts

 

[mailmandan]

One interesting theory is that the mark of the beast will be a computer chip, surgically implanted under the skin, by a totalitarian government wishing to exercise total control over its citizens. "Right hand or forehead." Certain people may have been injured and lost their right hand or even their whole arm, so in that case, the mark would have to go in their forehead. I can see the mark being something that is scanned (just as products in a store are scanned when you purchase them).

 

[Ahwatukee]

One interesting theory is that the mark of the beast will be a computer chip, surgically implanted under the skin, by a totalitarian government wishing to exercise total control over its citizens. "Right hand or forehead." Certain people may have been injured and lost their right hand or even their whole arm, so in that case, the mark would have to go in their forehead. I can see the mark being something that is scanned (just as products in a store are scanned when you purchase them).

Good day MailManDan,

Regarding your post, check out the following:

i put a chip in my hand to replace my wallet - Bing video