The "Days" of Creation

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Every organism has some sort of life force, that runs the genetic program. I would label this a soul. What separates humans is higher consciousness that allows us to see beyond the moment, identify our position in our environment, including the ability to change it, and contemplate God/afterlife.

We know about good and evil, the other 3 forms of flesh do not know that and they are like Adam in the new earth.
They do not know about good and evil in the new earth but they are the same as Adam as far as having a relationship with God. They will be eternal beasts and they will live as long as they have food and that is supplied by the pastures mankind will build. One of the Re:21 Law mentions murder, immortal men cannot be murdered but if a person was to give some fruit from the tree of knowledge they would die and God would sent the person to the fiery lake

 

[Dan_473]

Every organism has some sort of life force, that runs the genetic program. I would label this a soul. What separates humans is higher consciousness that allows us to see beyond the moment, identify our position in our environment, including the ability to change it, and contemplate God/afterlife.

Why God included these attributes into our make up is His knowledge alone. However, to whom much is given, much is expected. Perhaps that is why along with this blessing/curse is attached immortality. Since our actions can transcend many generations our punishments and rewards must be equally impactive. To my understanding the resurrection will be our consciousness and essence being implanted into an immortal body. I don’t think there has been provisions made for the animals.

was Adam the first "animal" to have
higher consciousness?

was that God blowing into Adam's nose
?

 

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was Adam the first "animal" to have
higher consciousness?

was that God blowing into Adam's nose
?

The breath of life. Eve would seem to have been the first to know about good and evil. Adam taught Eve everything God showed him in the garden. Adam threw in the bit about 'not even touch' part of Eve's answer to Satan.

Ec:3:20:
All go unto one place;
all are of the dust,
and all turn to dust again.

Ec:12:7:
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

 

[Dan_473]

what did Adam look like when good breathed I his nose?

eve when she was formed

basically, adults?

 

[trofimus]

Really??
Ge:1:14-18:
And God said,
Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;
and let them be for signs,
and for seasons,
and for days,
and years:
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth:
and it was so.
And God made two great lights;
the greater light to rule the day,
and the lesser light to rule the night:
he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
And to rule over the day and over the night,
and to divide the light from the darkness:
and God saw that it was good.

Technically, there are no lights in any firmanent.

But humans and animals standing on the surface of the Earth can see stars far away from us to shine in our atmosphere.

That is what the author of Genesis is talking about. Its a description from our point of view.

 

[Hungry]

We know about good and evil, the other 3 forms of flesh do not know that and they are like Adam in the new earth.
They do not know about good and evil in the new earth but they are the same as Adam as far as having a relationship with God. They will be eternal beasts and they will live as long as they have food and that is supplied by the pastures mankind will build. One of the Re:21 Law mentions murder, immortal men cannot be murdered but if a person was to give some fruit from the tree of knowledge they would die and God would sent the person to the fiery lake

We teach dogs the knowledge of good and evil when we train them. The fruit of the knowledge of good and evil is guilt. Animals eat instinctively in nature and go to the washroom where seems right. If our pets did what seems instinctive in the living room we chastise them. Once they are trained and “misbehave” they hide when we enter the house......just like Adam and Eve.

 

[MHz]

Technically, there are no lights in any firmanent.

But humans and animals standing on the surface of the Earth can see stars far away from us to shine in our atmosphere.

That is what the author of Genesis is talking about. Its a description from our point of view.

It was angelic beings that were there rather than people or animals. Hot, very hot.

Eze:28:14:
Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth;
and I have set thee so:
thou wast upon the holy mountain of God;
thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

 

[Hungry]

was Adam the first "animal" to have
higher consciousness?

was that God blowing into Adam's nose
?

God put us over all other earthly creations as stewards. Perhaps it’s expected that we problem solve have understanding to serve Him better. I assume it is a hardwired thing.

 

[MHz]

I assume it is a hardwired thing.

Apparently God has to show us how to do things rather than we can channel it from His as we see fit.

Joh:5:19:
Then answered Jesus and said unto them,
Verily,
verily,
I say unto you,
The Son can do nothing of himself,
but what he seeth the Father do:
for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

 

[Gabriel2020]

The sun don't have to shine for it to be daylight. the sun and the moon assist the daylight, and the night.

 

[Gabriel2020]

Adam was not an animal, he was man. the only creature made from the dust of the earth. not the dirt that the animals was made from. that is why we are the most delicate creatures on earth, because we were made from dust.

 

[trofimus]

It was angelic beings that were there rather than people or animals. Hot, very hot.

Eze:28:14:
Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth;
and I have set thee so:
thou wast upon the holy mountain of God;
thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

I do not see any provable connection between these verses...

 

[trofimus]

The sun don't have to shine for it to be daylight. the sun and the moon assist the daylight, and the night.

Day and night on our planet is because the planet is rotating and the sun shines on just one side of our planet during that rotation.

So, you have your answer. Our sun is needed for our day/daylight.

 

[Hungry]

Apparently God has to show us how to do things rather than we can channel it from His as we see fit.

Joh:5:19:
Then answered Jesus and said unto them,
Verily,
verily,
I say unto you,
The Son can do nothing of himself,
but what he seeth the Father do:
for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

There is a big leap between raising the dead and realizing that the circumference of a circle is about 3.14 times it’s diameter. People like Albert Einstein, Edgar Casey and Nikola Tesla operated at a different level of consciousness. People didn’t teach them, they just knew things. Then they used human logic to teach it to others (not Casey) I believe this too also supports theories of a cosmic consciousness, like a radio frequency that some antennas can pick up.

 

[MHz]

It is true that one person in the OT was resurrected from the dead.
I was referencing the plagues that Moses uses is the same that Christ will use when He pours out the 7 vials. That is why God hardened Pharaoah's heart, so they would all be used. The fire on Sodom didn't really solve the problem of sin but it is the same fire that destroy's Satan's Babylon (Jerusalem for the 4 days the two witnesses are dead) at the same time the vials are poured out on the world.

 

[Dan_473]

God put us over all other earthly creations as stewards. Perhaps it’s expected that we problem solve have understanding to serve Him better. I assume it is a hardwired thing.

so that was God blowing into Adam's nose?

 

[nddreamer]

When it comes to the creation story debate, I go to:
"Gen. 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens."

"These are the generations" can mean long passages of time.
"In the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens" can also mean long passages of time.

The creation story was written as a simple tutorial so anyone who reads it gets the same basic understanding. All that's important to know is that the LORD God created everything. He is in control. Does it really matter how long it took him to do it?

As I read it, science does not contradict God's word. To me, it validates it. After all, the LORD God is the ultimate scientist. My conclusion is that the LORD gave us the 6 day creation story to bring it down to our level of understanding so we would understand the importance of the 7th day.

"Gen. 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."

"Is. 58:13-14 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it."

Keeping the sabbath is not just spending 1 hour in church on Sat. or Sun. morning. This is the 24 hours that really matter. If you want to be blessed, if you want your children to be blessed, honor the LORD on the 7th day. Keep it holy unto him.

"Ezek. 20:19-20 I am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them; And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God."

Remember that GOD can't lie. So all the promises he has made to those who keep the sabbath days holy unto him, are yours.

 

[MarcR]

As "law" in science does not mean the same thing as in common speech, so also the word "theory".

Scientific law (for example the law of gravity) are short definitions, in several sentences.

When the description is longer, its called theory - the theory of relativity, the Big bang theory etc.

The genetic code of a paramecium ( a one celled protozoid) is sufficiently complex that if if could be linguistically represented it would fill at least a 300 word essay.

It is a basic premise of both Set theory in Mathematics and of the discipline of Philosophy that information can not be created by random events.

You can easily test your Big Bang Theory.

Take any novel of your choice (War and Peace is a good long one). Print it out 1 letter at a time on 3X5 cards.
Bring the cards to the 135th floor observation deck of the Empire State Building, and try to publish a 300 word essay on 5th Avenue.

 

[MHz]

The creation story was written as a simple tutorial so anyone who reads it gets the same basic understanding. All that's important to know is that the LORD God created everything. He is in control. Does it really matter how long it took him to do it?

Very good point. There is as few pages on creation and 24 long passages about the 'day of the Lord' the the topic with the most words is the more important topic in the book. Perhaps these small unimportant topics are a way to avoid exploring the more difficult subjects.

 

[MarcR]

I didn't cover you whole post as these few points are long enough as it is. The earth was like that at the end of day 1 as the only created thing on it was light from the sun. It had a form then so to be without a form would be at the beginning of day 1 when God spoke the words and the holy spirit manifested it into reality.
A wasteland can still be 'visited'. The 'void' in the Bible seems to be more like the universe if it kept expanding until matter was spread so far apart from each other that on even 1 star was shedding light

This also applies does it not?
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Water of the deep is associated with the void as water on earth seems to be a day 2 event rather than it being accomplished in day 1.


All I get is this.
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How about if I use a term that simply means something that can be touched. In this case it is liquid water on the surface of the earth (for the first time) and as clouds of water above the surface of the earth. A place for these beings to exist.

Ge:1:20:
And God said,
Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life,
and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.


Light was spoken into existence at the end of day 1, that would put a crimp in living on earth before that would it not? Even the sun and moon were not given names before day 4 yet they existed when day 1 ended.

You seem to be taking your (so called) definitions from Strong's concordance. Strongs definitions are helpful to see the way a word is most commonly translated in Scripture. They will not give you a clue what a word means in context and will often not give you a clue what a word means at all. Try using a lexicon! I believe Brown, Driver, Briggs is the best available.