The End comes with a Flood

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Deadflesh

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Daniel 9:26
"Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined."


In Daniel, it says that the END will come with a Flood.

Yet God said "I establish my covenant with you, that never again shall all flesh be cut off by the waters of the flood, and never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth.” Genesis 9:11

SO..then the FLOOD CAN NOT BE PHYSICAL...SO..what is this Flood?


Mattthew 7:24-27
Every one therefore that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them, shall be likened unto a wise man, who built his house upon the rock: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and if fell not: for it was founded upon the rock. And every one that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and smote upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall thereof.

The ones who OBEYED the Words of JESUS, REMAINED When the Flood came.

The Ones who DISSOBEYED the Words of JESUS, FELL(Away), When the Flood Came.



Matthew 24: 37-41
And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man. For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and they knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall be the coming of the Son of man. Then shall two man be in the field; one is taken, and one is left: two women'shall be grinding at the mill; one is taken, and one is left.



Those ABIDING(obey) in the ARK(Jesus) REMAINED When the Flood Came.

The Ones who did NOT know, (the Unrighteous) Were taken(Fell away) When the Flood came.

Two men inthe Field, ONE taken by the FLOOD, the other LEFT Standing(abiding, on the rock)



Revelation 12:15
And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood


The WOMAN is the Church.

The FLOOD is lies comming from the MOUTH of Satan(John 8:44)


MATTHEW 13:19
When any one hears the word of the kingdom, and understands it not(knew not, did not know, had no UNDERSTANDING), then comes the wicked one, and catches away(Harpazo) that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.



Acts 7:51
"You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did."

Psalm 32:9
Be you not as the horse, or as the mule(stiff-necked and stubborn), which have no understanding: whose mouth must be held in with bit and bridle, lest they come near to you.


Proverbs 29:1
A man who remains stiff-necked after many rebukes will suddenly be destroyed--without remedy



The Stiffnecked, and stubborn, Resist the holy spirit. You RECEIVE the Holy spirit, when you REPENT, and then you OBEY Jesus Christ. THAT is building you house on the Rock.



Those that DO NOT build there house on the ROCK, which is hearing and obeying JESUS, Are building there house on SAND, And those who DO NOT obey, are Stiffnecked and Stubborn, and have NO LOVE for the Truth.



The TRUTH is Jesus Christ. If you LOVE Jesus, you OBEY HIM.

If You have NO Love for the TRUTH You are given over to The lies, By a deluding(deceiving) influence.


1 Thessalonians 2:9-11
that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false,



What is FALSE is the Deluding influence, its a FLOOD of LIES that Spews from the MOUTH of The Dragon/ SATAN, in the way of signs and Wonders(vs 9) THAT is the Sudden destruction.(1 Thess 5:3, prov 29:1)

...The end comes with a Flood..." Daniel 9:26
 
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Daniel 9:26
"Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined."


In Daniel, it says that the END will come with a Flood.

Yet God said "I establish my covenant with you, that never again shall all flesh be cut off by the waters of the flood, and never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth.” Genesis 9:11

SO..then the FLOOD CAN NOT BE PHYSICAL...SO..what is this Flood?


Mattthew 7:24-27
Every one therefore that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them, shall be likened unto a wise man, who built his house upon the rock: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and if fell not: for it was founded upon the rock. And every one that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand: and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and smote upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall thereof.

The ones who OBEYED the Words of JESUS, REMAINED When the Flood came.

The Ones who DISSOBEYED the Words of JESUS, FELL(Away), When the Flood Came.



Matthew 24: 37-41
And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man. For as in those days which were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and they knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall be the coming of the Son of man. Then shall two man be in the field; one is taken, and one is left: two women'shall be grinding at the mill; one is taken, and one is left.



Those ABIDING(obey) in the ARK(Jesus) REMAINED When the Flood Came.

The Ones who did NOT know, (the Unrighteous) Were taken(Fell away) When the Flood came.

Two men inthe Field, ONE taken by the FLOOD, the other LEFT Standing(abiding, on the rock)



Revelation 12:15
And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood


The WOMAN is the Church.

The FLOOD is lies comming from the MOUTH of Satan(John 8:44)


MATTHEW 13:19
When any one hears the word of the kingdom, and understands it not(knew not, did not know, had no UNDERSTANDING), then comes the wicked one, and catches away(Harpazo) that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.



Acts 7:51
"You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did."

Psalm 32:9
Be you not as the horse, or as the mule(stiff-necked and stubborn), which have no understanding: whose mouth must be held in with bit and bridle, lest they come near to you.


Proverbs 29:1
A man who remains stiff-necked after many rebukes will suddenly be destroyed--without remedy



The Stiffnecked, and stubborn, Resist the holy spirit. You RECEIVE the Holy spirit, when you REPENT, and then you OBEY Jesus Christ. THAT is building you house on the Rock.



Those that DO NOT build there house on the ROCK, which is hearing and obeying JESUS, Are building there house on SAND, And those who DO NOT obey, are Stiffnecked and Stubborn, and have NO LOVE for the Truth.



The TRUTH is Jesus Christ. If you LOVE Jesus, you OBEY HIM.

If You have NO Love for the TRUTH You are given over to The lies, By a deluding(deceiving) influence.


1 Thessalonians 2:9-11
that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false,



What is FALSE is the Deluding influence, its a FLOOD of LIES that Spews from the MOUTH of The Dragon/ SATAN, in the way of signs and Wonders(vs 9) THAT is the Sudden destruction.(1 Thess 5:3, prov 29:1)

...The end comes with a Flood..." Daniel 9:26
When Jesus spoke of the flood, He said that ALL of them were carried away by the flood. When the Bible speaks of remaining, it is not a physical remaining as well.

1 Thessalonians 4:14-18


14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

What happens when the trumpet sounds?

Isaiah 18:3-7

3All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign on the mountains; and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye.

4For so the LORD said unto me, I will take my rest, and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest.
5For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away and cut down the branches.
6They shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall summer upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall winter upon them. 7In that time shall the present be brought unto the LORD of hosts of a people scattered and peeled, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name of the LORD of hosts, the mount Zion.

Isaiah 27:9-13


9By this therefore shall the iniquity of Jacob be purged; and this is all the fruit to take away his sin; when he maketh all the stones of the altar as chalkstones that are beaten in sunder, the groves and images shall not stand up.
10Yet the defenced city shall be desolate, and the habitation forsaken, and left like a wilderness: there shall the calf feed, and there shall he lie down, and consume the branches thereof.
11When the boughs thereof are withered, they shall be broken off: the women come, and set them on fire: for it is a people of no understanding: therefore he that made them will not have mercy on them, and he that formed them will shew them no favour.
12And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall beat off from the channel of the river unto the stream of Egypt, and ye shall be gathered one by one, O ye children of Israel. 13And it shall come to pass in that day, that the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the LORD in the holy mount at Jerusalem.


The house on the Rock or the house on the sand.

1 Corinthians 9:1

1Am I am not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord?

Ephesians 2:8-10


8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

God is a Spirit, If we are indeed His workmanship, then how were we created?

Psalms 127:1

1Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.

2 Corinthians 5:1-3; 14-17


1For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
2For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: 3If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

The truth is this in a nutshell.


14For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 17Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.


All men are saved.
 
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I don't know what version of Daniel you're using, but Challoner's Douay-Rheims has 'the end will come like a torrent'. This means in a big rush, not an actual flood of water. In Revelation the woman with child is Israel, and the serpent was the Nazis. The flood that came out of the serpent's mouth refers to the Holocaust.
 
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Deadflesh

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I don't know what version of Daniel you're using, but Challoner's Douay-Rheims has 'the end will come like a torrent'. This means in a big rush, not an actual flood of water. In Revelation the woman with child is Israel, and the serpent was the Nazis. The flood that came out of the serpent's mouth refers to the Holocaust.
Oh? oh ok.

The Woman IS Israel, yes, and WHO does Matthew 2:15 say Israel is?


Btw The word used is Strongs H7857, the Word: "Sheteph" Which mean DELUGE, or more so

1. to wash, rinse, overflow, engulf, rinse or wash off
a. (Qal)
1. to overflow
2. to flow, run
3. to rinse or wash off
b. (Niphal) to be swept away, be rinsed out
c. (Pual) to be rinsed, be scoured and rinsed
Origin: a primitive root
TWOT: 2373,
Parts of Speech: Verb

So the End will come with a Washing, an OVER FLOW, Washed away, swept away in a flow of water. ....you CAN even use Torrent if you wish, Torrent MEANS deluge, or FLOOD.

umm...so your opinion can be an opinion. thats fine. But it doesnt change the meaning of a word.
 
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Deadflesh

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When Jesus spoke of the flood, He said that ALL of them were carried away by the flood. When the Bible speaks of remaining, it is not a physical remaining as well.

1 Thessalonians 4:14-18


14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

What happens when the trumpet sounds?

Isaiah 18:3-7

3All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign on the mountains; and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye.

4For so the LORD said unto me, I will take my rest, and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest.
5For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away and cut down the branches.
6They shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall summer upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall winter upon them. 7In that time shall the present be brought unto the LORD of hosts of a people scattered and peeled, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name of the LORD of hosts, the mount Zion.

Isaiah 27:9-13


9By this therefore shall the iniquity of Jacob be purged; and this is all the fruit to take away his sin; when he maketh all the stones of the altar as chalkstones that are beaten in sunder, the groves and images shall not stand up.
10Yet the defenced city shall be desolate, and the habitation forsaken, and left like a wilderness: there shall the calf feed, and there shall he lie down, and consume the branches thereof.
11When the boughs thereof are withered, they shall be broken off: the women come, and set them on fire: for it is a people of no understanding: therefore he that made them will not have mercy on them, and he that formed them will shew them no favour.
12And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall beat off from the channel of the river unto the stream of Egypt, and ye shall be gathered one by one, O ye children of Israel. 13And it shall come to pass in that day, that the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the LORD in the holy mount at Jerusalem.


The house on the Rock or the house on the sand.

1 Corinthians 9:1

1Am I am not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord?

Ephesians 2:8-10


8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

God is a Spirit, If we are indeed His workmanship, then how were we created?

Psalms 127:1

1Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.

2 Corinthians 5:1-3; 14-17


1For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
2For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: 3If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

The truth is this in a nutshell.


14For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. 17Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.


All men are saved.
WHY did JESUS, as well as the apostles tell people to REPENT and belive in JESUS, so he can save them from there SINS if ALL men are saved? SO you say there is no reason to repent(turn from) your life, self and sin?
 
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Somthing else to add

the WORD of GOD is Water.

"so that He(Messiah) might sanctify her(the Ekklisia, Church, his body, his bride), having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless" Ephesians 5:26-27


CHRIST washes his bride, with the water of the WORD.


SO, SATAN, the god of this WORLD, will try to pour the water of his OWN word down on them, but since the devil is the father of LIES...His WORD is a lie. And it brings Destruction.


So the Comming FLood(btw its been rainign for quite a while, i beleive) is not going to Pureify the BRIDE, like the water of GODS WORD does, but will defile her, THAT is what the Harlot Church is, Church that MAN built(rather SATAN) and not JESUS...I havent all the light on this, But I truly beleive the lord has been showing me these thigns...
 
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Deadflesh

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2 Timothy 3
But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. 2For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, 4treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these. 6For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, 7always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected in regard to the faith. 9But they will not make further progress; for their folly will be obvious to all, just as Jannes’s and Jambres’s folly was also.


I said what you should hear in the other thread. either take heed, or dont. But you are far from the Lord. This is the last thign i will say, and i suggest all Take Pauls words, for they are GOD speaking through HIM.
 
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Ugh, you fail so hard it's painful to watch. Don't even try to use Scripture against me. I put you losers on ignore a while ago anyway.
 
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Ramon

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May Jesus bless you Deadflesh. Amen!
 
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We are in a flood of deception, good is evil and evil is good and people vehemently defend sin. God's opinion is ignored. and that is in the church I am talking about.
 
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Deadflesh

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We are in a flood of deception, good is evil and evil is good and people vehemently defend sin. God's opinion is ignored. and that is in the church I am talking about.
Amen. Its all inside out and backwards. But The LORD is wakign up his remnant. He is calling out to the virgins.


And giantone, thank you for your avatar. It gives me the giggles everytime, no fail.

...yeah...i said giggles. Jesus bless you.
 
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Israel

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WHY did JESUS, as well as the apostles tell people to REPENT and belive in JESUS, so he can save them from there SINS if ALL men are saved? SO you say there is no reason to repent(turn from) your life, self and sin?

What is TRUE repentance? What is TRUE sin?


Isaiah 66:1-3

1Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

2For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

3He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.


Please harden not your heart and understand.

God said he that kills an ox, it is as if he killed a man! Again I only judge this. If one man died
for all, then all were DEAD. Therefore I judge no man after the flesh. I lean not on my own understanding in knowing that I know NOTHING as I ought to know.

All men are saved because it is the will of God. My Father takes NO pleasure in the death of the wicked. The funny thing about it is we all have one Father.

Revelation 4:11

11Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
 
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Israel

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Back on the subject of the flood, you are right on a few areas. Truth is truly cast to the ground. Again how deep is the deception? All men are saved. It is profitless, and is cast away and rejected. But who can believe our report?
 
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Interesting. Doesn't the bible say that destruction of the heaves and earth will come by fire in the end times? And that God promised Noah that He would not flood the earth again for destruction?

2 Peter 3:5-7

5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

2 Peter 3:10
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.