The Error of KJV-Onlyism
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So - you do mean it in its 'literal' sense - but, "not literally"... 
I see. Okay. Appreciate the above quoted explanation.
I bookmarked the video. I will probably watch it.
I see. Okay. Appreciate the above quoted explanation.
I bookmarked the video. I will probably watch it.
We both agree that the KJV is the best and far superior to any of the Critical Text Bibles available today.
There will be a Q&A session in the latter half of the debate.
I hope you can join live to ask questions.
I enjoy being challenged.
Most of my reasons focus on defending the King James Bible as the perfect Word of God for today, particularly for the English-speaking people. I will share a few of my reasons from my "150 Reasons for the KJV" PDF write-up.
Just to let you know, I am not against Textus Receptus-based translations in other languages;
in fact, we definitely need more of them.
However, my position on the Bibliology topic is a unique one.
I believe a person can be saved through the gospel message found in a Modern Bible. Additionally, while I believe Modern Translations are corrupt, I also believe they can be used as a tool to help understand the 17th-century English of the KJV in personal, private study—much like one would use a dictionary. However, when it comes to church fellowship, group worship, and group Bible study, I believe English-speaking Christians should only use the KJV.
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Precious brother, thanks for the invite - I used to have a ministry on u-tube until they started
deleting my posts - will check it out Friday.
Best Wonders Of His Grace to you too.
deleting my posts - will check it out Friday.
Best Wonders Of His Grace to you too.
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Hello Grace Ambassador.
Look forward to seeing you in the live comments.
On YouTube, unless you select the “newest” feature button (which is not default), your posts will make it seem like they are missing. YouTube also used to shadow ban. Videos can get banned because of certain controversial content or words. Live comments on Nick Sayers channel will not be deleted. Nick only deletes comments that are overly disruptive. So, you shouldn’t have any issues.
God bless you greatly.
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Look forward to seeing you in the live comments.
On YouTube, unless you select the “newest” feature button (which is not default), your posts will make it seem like they are missing. YouTube also used to shadow ban. Videos can get banned because of certain controversial content or words. Live comments on Nick Sayers channel will not be deleted. Nick only deletes comments that are overly disruptive. So, you shouldn’t have any issues.
God bless you greatly.
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In all that you said here, I do not see anything that I disagree with.
Most churches that I have ever attended - all of them that I have ever been a member of - firmly adhere(d) to the idea represented in that last sentence.
Never in my life have I had a YT account - and, don't really feel that I need or want one - gonna kinda affect that 'live questions' thing - don't think YT allows anonymous anything...
If I have a question, I will have to ask you later on CC.
It might have been better if you had started a new thread with post #3590 instead of putting it in this thread.
Most churches that I have ever attended - all of them that I have ever been a member of - firmly adhere(d) to the idea represented in that last sentence.
Never in my life have I had a YT account - and, don't really feel that I need or want one - gonna kinda affect that 'live questions' thing - don't think YT allows anonymous anything...
If I have a question, I will have to ask you later on CC.
It might have been better if you had started a new thread with post #3590 instead of putting it in this thread.
If you change your mind, you can post comments anonymously on any YouTube video. I like posting comments on Nick’s channel when I have the time. Nick Sayers encourages KJV / TR Christians to post live while he does videos. Nick will many times take the time to talk live from any comments if they defend the KJV and TR.
Anyway, may the Lord Jesus bless you.
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Anyway, may the Lord Jesus bless you.
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KJV ONLY People:
I have a lot of good friends that are KJV ONLY people, and most of them are very fine Christians.
They have a high view of scripture, they are very devout, and they're filled with both courage and zeal.
Many of them know the Bible very well, and are excellent at teaching core doctrine and core principles.
I respect them and love them very much.
However, I find the entire KJV ONLY position (and thus debate on the matter) to be irrational, and a disruption to our time.
Why?
2 Categories of Claims.
The KJV ONLY position has 2 types of claims, and carefully distinguishing these 2 types of claims will quickly sort the entire issue:
1. Rational Claims:
They make some claims that are rational, and thus at least plausible, and should therefore be open for debate and discussion.
(Example: They feel certain manuscripts and texts are more reliable than others. Perfectly rational to discuss this.)
2. Irrational Claims:
They make some claims that are not rational, and which are therefore simply not possible.
So these claims have to be discarded by default.
If we discard the irrational claims (which we must), then all that remains is a very modest, and very different position altogether.
(Example: Most of them believe God's word is somehow "perfectly" preserved in the English language even better than in the original languages. This is simply irrational, and there's no logical way to defend this. They also use certain verses to support their views, and almost every verse they use for this is pulled completely out of historical context.)
Conclusion:
A.) I love the KJV ONLY brethren, and most of them are fine and devout Christians who deeply love God, and deeply love his word. I find no fault in this. They are fine Christians, and fine friends.
B.) I usually don't debate people on the KJV ONLY position, because they've let this strange issue become far too conflated with their core beliefs of the gospel... I always fear, deeply fear, debate with them will injure their faith.
God Bless.
Have a great week everyone.
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I have a lot of good friends that are KJV ONLY people, and most of them are very fine Christians.
They have a high view of scripture, they are very devout, and they're filled with both courage and zeal.
Many of them know the Bible very well, and are excellent at teaching core doctrine and core principles.
I respect them and love them very much.
However, I find the entire KJV ONLY position (and thus debate on the matter) to be irrational, and a disruption to our time.
Why?
2 Categories of Claims.
The KJV ONLY position has 2 types of claims, and carefully distinguishing these 2 types of claims will quickly sort the entire issue:
1. Rational Claims:
They make some claims that are rational, and thus at least plausible, and should therefore be open for debate and discussion.
(Example: They feel certain manuscripts and texts are more reliable than others. Perfectly rational to discuss this.)
2. Irrational Claims:
They make some claims that are not rational, and which are therefore simply not possible.
So these claims have to be discarded by default.
If we discard the irrational claims (which we must), then all that remains is a very modest, and very different position altogether.
(Example: Most of them believe God's word is somehow "perfectly" preserved in the English language even better than in the original languages. This is simply irrational, and there's no logical way to defend this. They also use certain verses to support their views, and almost every verse they use for this is pulled completely out of historical context.)
Conclusion:
A.) I love the KJV ONLY brethren, and most of them are fine and devout Christians who deeply love God, and deeply love his word. I find no fault in this. They are fine Christians, and fine friends.
B.) I usually don't debate people on the KJV ONLY position, because they've let this strange issue become far too conflated with their core beliefs of the gospel... I always fear, deeply fear, debate with them will injure their faith.
God Bless.
Have a great week everyone.
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