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Who is the ignorant one (not you) who denies God in His administration of the Spirit leading one's spirit home?
Do you not know we all read from Holy Scripture?
We know what God has said about giving. Everything He wants us to know is WRITTEN.
Have you YET done a study on being LED by the Spirit?
C
Settle down you said this:
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If all we do is what God does through us, then who is the one to blame when the human does not listen to Him when He said, 'STOP!. Give that family some money to eat."
And the one who is led by the Spirit are?
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Originally Posted by marianna
Are you claiming God gives you specific personalized daily instructions in words? -- And is she not the one who thinks God's Spirit as a thing, it?
That He tells you when to stop and when to go throughout the day?
If you want to know about what He has said about helping people in need, go to the source and read it.
Like we all do. He hasn't changed His mind on that.
Are you suggesting we start listening to voices in our heads giving us moment by moment personalized directives?
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she asked that and you say this"
And here comes the worse one of them all
Read the post before you post your ignorant words
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If all we do is what God does through us, then who is the one to blame when the human does not listen to Him when He said, 'STOP!. Give that family some money to eat."
And the one who is led by the Spirit are?
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Originally Posted by marianna
Are you claiming God gives you specific personalized daily instructions in words? -- And is she not the one who thinks God's Spirit as a thing, it?
That He tells you when to stop and when to go throughout the day?
If you want to know about what He has said about helping people in need, go to the source and read it.
Like we all do. He hasn't changed His mind on that.
Are you suggesting we start listening to voices in our heads giving us moment by moment personalized directives?
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she asked that and you say this"
And here comes the worse one of them all
Read the post before you post your ignorant words
C
I asked you to show the mockery...who is denying scripture? show that
Who is the fool who believes God did not mean half of the stuff He inspired?
Who is the ignorant one (not you) who denies God in His administration of the Spirit leading one's spirit home?
Who is the deceived one who says that hearkening to God is not needed for salvation?
This is the answer, you deal with it.
C
Isa. 50:11 Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that encompass yourselves with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled. This shall ye have of my hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow.
C
"who is the one to blame when the human does not listen to Him when He said, 'STOP!. Give that family some money to eat." "
Does God give you directives like this?
No wonder you live in terror.
Does God give you directives like this?
No wonder you live in terror.
No wonder you live in terror.
C
Are you attempting to follow subjective leadings? -- I am attempting to follow my Lord, The same Lord who said He will send His Spirit. Are you attempting to say Jesus was lying and that He is not real? My God is real because of His Spirit which leads me to Truth.
Do you not know we all read from Holy Scripture? --then accept all Scriptures.
We know what God has said about giving. Everything He wants us to know is WRITTEN. -- And what is written in your heart? Then that do.
Have you YET done a study on being LED by the Spirit? -- Have you yet done a study on hearkening. You, he who has an ear, hearken unto what the Spirit says?
Do you not know we all read from Holy Scripture? --then accept all Scriptures.
We know what God has said about giving. Everything He wants us to know is WRITTEN. -- And what is written in your heart? Then that do.
Have you YET done a study on being LED by the Spirit? -- Have you yet done a study on hearkening. You, he who has an ear, hearken unto what the Spirit says?
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And that would be: the one who denies half of Scriptures or the one who accepts all of Scripture?
Who is the fool who believes God did not mean half of the stuff He inspired?
Who is the ignorant one (not you) who denies God in His administration of the Spirit leading one's spirit home?
Who is the deceived one who says that hearkening to God is not needed for salvation?
This is the answer, you deal with it.
Who is the fool who believes God did not mean half of the stuff He inspired?
Who is the ignorant one (not you) who denies God in His administration of the Spirit leading one's spirit home?
Who is the deceived one who says that hearkening to God is not needed for salvation?
This is the answer, you deal with it.
saying im a fool, ignorant, and deceived?
The problem isnt that i dont believe all of scripture. Its only that
i dont spin it like you do...you deal with that.
I do believe we obey the Lord. He is deserving of total obedience
and honor.
I just wont peddle it the way you do, because its NOT His will to do so
A
And that fire is the mockey of God and His Scripture so that one can stand justified in his doctrine. That is the mockery
and go about representing Him. When all thats happenning is they are imagining stuff in their own heads
making there own fire.
C
Really?? you think just because you Obfuscate your not outright
saying im a fool, ignorant, and deceived?
The problem isnt that i dont believe all of scripture. Its only that
i dont spin it like you do...you deal with that.
I do believe we obey the Lord. He is deserving of total obedience
and honor.
I just wont peddle it the way you do, because its NOT His will to do so
saying im a fool, ignorant, and deceived?
The problem isnt that i dont believe all of scripture. Its only that
i dont spin it like you do...you deal with that.
I do believe we obey the Lord. He is deserving of total obedience
and honor.
I just wont peddle it the way you do, because its NOT His will to do so
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Originally Posted by marianna
Are you claiming God gives you specific personalized daily instructions in words? -- And is she not the one who thinks God's Spirit as a thing, it?
That He tells you when to stop and when to go throughout the day?
If you want to know about what He has said about helping people in need, go to the source and read it.
Like we all do. He hasn't changed His mind on that.
Are you suggesting we start listening to voices in our heads giving us moment by moment personalized directives?
Are you claiming God gives you specific personalized daily instructions in words? -- And is she not the one who thinks God's Spirit as a thing, it?
That He tells you when to stop and when to go throughout the day?
If you want to know about what He has said about helping people in need, go to the source and read it.
Like we all do. He hasn't changed His mind on that.
Are you suggesting we start listening to voices in our heads giving us moment by moment personalized directives?
C
Really?? you think just because you Obfuscate your not outright
saying im a fool, ignorant, and deceived?
The problem isnt that i dont believe all of scripture. Its only that
i dont spin it like you do...you deal with that. -- but you spon it in a way that denies half of Scriptures...you deal with that
I do believe we obey the Lord. He is deserving of total obedience
and honor. And if we don't even though He is worthy? Will He kick us out like He did Adam and Eve?
I just wont peddle it the way you do, because its NOT His will to do so
saying im a fool, ignorant, and deceived?
The problem isnt that i dont believe all of scripture. Its only that
i dont spin it like you do...you deal with that. -- but you spon it in a way that denies half of Scriptures...you deal with that
I do believe we obey the Lord. He is deserving of total obedience
and honor. And if we don't even though He is worthy? Will He kick us out like He did Adam and Eve?
I just wont peddle it the way you do, because its NOT His will to do so
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C
Are you suggesting that God does not talk to His children? Then, who may I ask, has been speeking to my wife and I? And the voice we hear is not in the head, it is in the heart. There is a big difference. The head will die, the heart never dies. And the heart is not in the head, I believe that would be where the soul is.
? Perhaps somewhere you are misreading something?
A
Read it as you wish, I cannot convince you otherwise. So if it speaks to you then it does and is meant for you.
that if i abide in Him and His words abide in me that i wont have fruit?
Or that if im faithful..i still should worry?
Is He Lord? Didnt He make promises? Did He ask me to trust Him?
Cast all my cares on Him? There are hundreds of verses people could have brought to your
thread.
Only thing i see in what you teach is that ill fall away. Or because
I trust Him more than me...even tho the word says a man who trusts in himself is a fool.
I shouldnt have hope.
Im not against anyone warning people with truth. Im not a grace only teacher.
Youd like to think so. But then you may think since i have my trust in the Lord
its because im wallowing in sin. But thats not even logical although its been all over
these threads.
C
convince me of what? that the Lord i serve will not help me? -- Who said that the Lord will not HELP you?
that if i abide in Him and His words abide in me that i wont have fruit? -- So we all better start producing fruit or be like the unproductive servant who take what he had taken away from him and thrown in out darkness (give over to the tormentors).
Or that if im faithful..i still should worry? -- if you produice fruit than no. But if not then yes
Is He Lord? Didnt He make promises? --- Did not God make promises to the Hebrews and some did not hearken to His Voice and thus did not receive His promises. Simple faith, if you become disobedient, rest in the assurance that God will remain faithful.
Did He ask me to trust Him? Do you? YES! then no worries. If you do not trust Him in His leading you? Then what? As a broken record, yes I trust Him to lead me home and I trust that what He has said is True. Why not simply accept one can fall.
Cast all my cares on Him? Amen.
There are hundreds of verses people could have brought to your thread. -- and yet there are still thousands more which they ignore.
Only thing i see in what you teach is that ill fall away. -- yes there is that possbility, otherwise the God would not have said so.
Or because
I trust Him more than me...even tho the word says a man who trusts in himself is a fool.
I shouldnt have hope. -- Hope is only given to those who trust. So, if one falls and remains there, does he still trust?
Im not against anyone warning people with truth. Im not a grace only teacher. -- Hmmm
Youd like to think so. -- who then approves of yuour posts if not the ones you say you are not a part of? One is know by the flock they flock with.
But then you may think since i have my trust in the Lord
its because im wallowing in sin. -- that would be between you and God.But I will say that God's Spirit is not to be denied His leading. I trust my Lord and I have salvation. You say you have trust in Him, and accordingly, you have salvation. But never foget, that the reward is at the end of the race, not in the middle where there is pitfalls.
But thats not even logical although its been all over
these threads.
that if i abide in Him and His words abide in me that i wont have fruit? -- So we all better start producing fruit or be like the unproductive servant who take what he had taken away from him and thrown in out darkness (give over to the tormentors).
Or that if im faithful..i still should worry? -- if you produice fruit than no. But if not then yes
Is He Lord? Didnt He make promises? --- Did not God make promises to the Hebrews and some did not hearken to His Voice and thus did not receive His promises. Simple faith, if you become disobedient, rest in the assurance that God will remain faithful.
Did He ask me to trust Him? Do you? YES! then no worries. If you do not trust Him in His leading you? Then what? As a broken record, yes I trust Him to lead me home and I trust that what He has said is True. Why not simply accept one can fall.
Cast all my cares on Him? Amen.
There are hundreds of verses people could have brought to your thread. -- and yet there are still thousands more which they ignore.
Only thing i see in what you teach is that ill fall away. -- yes there is that possbility, otherwise the God would not have said so.
Or because
I trust Him more than me...even tho the word says a man who trusts in himself is a fool.
I shouldnt have hope. -- Hope is only given to those who trust. So, if one falls and remains there, does he still trust?
Im not against anyone warning people with truth. Im not a grace only teacher. -- Hmmm
Youd like to think so. -- who then approves of yuour posts if not the ones you say you are not a part of? One is know by the flock they flock with.
But then you may think since i have my trust in the Lord
its because im wallowing in sin. -- that would be between you and God.But I will say that God's Spirit is not to be denied His leading. I trust my Lord and I have salvation. You say you have trust in Him, and accordingly, you have salvation. But never foget, that the reward is at the end of the race, not in the middle where there is pitfalls.
But thats not even logical although its been all over
these threads.
M
Are you suggesting that God does not talk to His children? Then, who may I ask, has been speeking to my wife and I? And the voice we hear is not in the head, it is in the heart. There is a big difference. The head will die, the heart never dies. And the heart is not in the head, I believe that would be where the soul is.
Tongues is just the evidence of one filled with the Spirit of God.
A
convince me of what? that the Lord i serve will not help me? -- Who said that the Lord will not HELP you?
that if i abide in Him and His words abide in me that i wont have fruit? -- So we all better start producing fruit or be like the unproductive servant who take what he had taken away from him and thrown in out darkness (give over to the tormentors).dont think you understand the tormenters, but anyway...we cant produce fruit...we only bear it.
Or that if im faithful..i still should worry? -- if you produice fruit than no. But if not then yeslike i said you dont understand you CANT rpoduce fruit...just wood hay and stubble
Is He Lord? Didnt He make promises? --- Did not God make promises to the Hebrews and some did not hearken to His Voice and thus did not receive His promises. Simple faith, if you become disobedient, rest in the assurance that God will remain faithful.Of coarse they were disobedient...they didnt believe. you know that.If they had they would have been obedient
Did He ask me to trust Him? Do you? YES! then no worries. If you do not trust Him in His leading you? Then what? As a broken record, yes I trust Him to lead me home and I trust that what He has said is True. Why not simply accept one can fall.Well i know people will fall, never said they couldnt..done it myself. But Guess whose arms i fell in when i did?
Cast all my cares on Him? Amen.
There are hundreds of verses people could have brought to your thread. -- and yet there are still thousands more which they ignore.I just think you have the wrong attitude and perspective...the ones youve contended with do not ignore any scripture they have been wonderful faithfull upright believers that didnt like your position and how you are dealing with scripture. Most of them have walked many many years with the Lord and have deep understanding of all the scripture you provided and seen your point and understand your sentament.
Only thing i see in what you teach is that ill fall away. -- yes there is that possbility, otherwise the God would not have said so.like i said i have, but thats not the end of the story.
Or because
I trust Him more than me...even tho the word says a man who trusts in himself is a fool.
I shouldnt have hope. -- Hope is only given to those who trust. So, if one falls and remains there, does he still trust?Not according to my experience, i guess when He pulled me into His arms i could have jacked Him in the face...but it just didnt come into my mind
Im not against anyone warning people with truth. Im not a grace only teacher. -- Hmmm
Youd like to think so. -- who then approves of yuour posts if not the ones you say you are not a part of? One is know by the flock they flock with.Oh im sure everyone here that opposed you have rebuked many folks as often as it was necessary..but maybe
with words seasoned with grace and always with the intent to restore...unless it was time
to bid them farewell till they repented. And surely they all believe in total obedience to bad you never thought to ask.
But then you may think since i have my trust in the Lord
its because im wallowing in sin. -- that would be between you and God.But I will say that God's Spirit is not to be denied His leading. I trust my Lord and I have salvation. You say you have trust in Him, and accordingly, you have salvation. But never forget, that the reward is at the end of the race, not in the middle where there is pitfalls.Im not forgetting the race isnt over. But the race isnt with
God on the sidelines waiting for me to fall so He can laugh and condemn me...He died for me..He wants to purify me. Do you know why job didnt pack it in? maybe not.
But thats not even logical although its been all over
these threads.
that if i abide in Him and His words abide in me that i wont have fruit? -- So we all better start producing fruit or be like the unproductive servant who take what he had taken away from him and thrown in out darkness (give over to the tormentors).dont think you understand the tormenters, but anyway...we cant produce fruit...we only bear it.
Or that if im faithful..i still should worry? -- if you produice fruit than no. But if not then yeslike i said you dont understand you CANT rpoduce fruit...just wood hay and stubble
Is He Lord? Didnt He make promises? --- Did not God make promises to the Hebrews and some did not hearken to His Voice and thus did not receive His promises. Simple faith, if you become disobedient, rest in the assurance that God will remain faithful.Of coarse they were disobedient...they didnt believe. you know that.If they had they would have been obedient
Did He ask me to trust Him? Do you? YES! then no worries. If you do not trust Him in His leading you? Then what? As a broken record, yes I trust Him to lead me home and I trust that what He has said is True. Why not simply accept one can fall.Well i know people will fall, never said they couldnt..done it myself. But Guess whose arms i fell in when i did?
Cast all my cares on Him? Amen.
There are hundreds of verses people could have brought to your thread. -- and yet there are still thousands more which they ignore.I just think you have the wrong attitude and perspective...the ones youve contended with do not ignore any scripture they have been wonderful faithfull upright believers that didnt like your position and how you are dealing with scripture. Most of them have walked many many years with the Lord and have deep understanding of all the scripture you provided and seen your point and understand your sentament.
Only thing i see in what you teach is that ill fall away. -- yes there is that possbility, otherwise the God would not have said so.like i said i have, but thats not the end of the story.
Or because
I trust Him more than me...even tho the word says a man who trusts in himself is a fool.
I shouldnt have hope. -- Hope is only given to those who trust. So, if one falls and remains there, does he still trust?Not according to my experience, i guess when He pulled me into His arms i could have jacked Him in the face...but it just didnt come into my mind
Im not against anyone warning people with truth. Im not a grace only teacher. -- Hmmm
Youd like to think so. -- who then approves of yuour posts if not the ones you say you are not a part of? One is know by the flock they flock with.Oh im sure everyone here that opposed you have rebuked many folks as often as it was necessary..but maybe
with words seasoned with grace and always with the intent to restore...unless it was time
to bid them farewell till they repented. And surely they all believe in total obedience to bad you never thought to ask.
But then you may think since i have my trust in the Lord
its because im wallowing in sin. -- that would be between you and God.But I will say that God's Spirit is not to be denied His leading. I trust my Lord and I have salvation. You say you have trust in Him, and accordingly, you have salvation. But never forget, that the reward is at the end of the race, not in the middle where there is pitfalls.Im not forgetting the race isnt over. But the race isnt with
God on the sidelines waiting for me to fall so He can laugh and condemn me...He died for me..He wants to purify me. Do you know why job didnt pack it in? maybe not.
But thats not even logical although its been all over
these threads.