The False Teaching (& Truth) of what happens at the Rapture.
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.....at the same time you earnestly await the antichrist.. woah.
What a farce, your teachers have developed in you.
You tirelessly mis characterize me while mocking and scoffing at Jesus command to watch and be ready.
That is the last thing you are thinking. To you, it would be folly ,and silly, to wait for Jesus return at any moment.
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What a farce, your teachers have developed in you.
You tirelessly mis characterize me while mocking and scoffing at Jesus command to watch and be ready.
That is the last thing you are thinking. To you, it would be folly ,and silly, to wait for Jesus return at any moment.
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Beckie said:
"""The scriptures tell us how high the water was. What you have lied to yourself and others about is saying the ark was over a mile in the heavens. Your words live with'em"""
My reply..."""Oh ok.
What verse is that?"""
Your input;
""".....15 cubits, covering the mountains"""
Glad we are on the same page that the ark was carried over a mile into the heavens.
I know there is no way you or becky think 15 cubits drowned 18 meter high dinosaurs, or covered mountains 3 miles high.
Please tell me you are not that ignorant.
"""The scriptures tell us how high the water was. What you have lied to yourself and others about is saying the ark was over a mile in the heavens. Your words live with'em"""
My reply..."""Oh ok.
What verse is that?"""
Your input;
""".....15 cubits, covering the mountains"""
Glad we are on the same page that the ark was carried over a mile into the heavens.
I know there is no way you or becky think 15 cubits drowned 18 meter high dinosaurs, or covered mountains 3 miles high.
Please tell me you are not that ignorant.
Rev 1:6
and has made ***us*** kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
Rev 5:9-10
And they sang a new song, saying:
“You are worthy to take the scroll,
And to open its seals;
For You were slain,
And have redeemed ***us*** to God by Your blood
Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,
And have made ***us*** kings and priests to our God;
And we shall reign on the earth.”
THE RAPTURE HAS HAPPENED. THE CHURCH IS IN HEAVEN BEFORE THE TRIBULATION JUDGEMENTS BEGIN IN CHAPTER 6....
Rev 5:3
And ***no man in heaven***, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
YES THERE ARE MEN IN HEAVEN AT THIS POINT. REDEEMED CHRISTIANS WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN RAPTURED VV. 9,10.
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THE RAPTURED CHURCH WILL BE WITH HIM AT HIS SECOND COMING TO THE EARTH
Col 3:4
When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Jde 1:14
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Rev 19:14
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
and has made ***us*** kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
Rev 5:9-10
And they sang a new song, saying:
“You are worthy to take the scroll,
And to open its seals;
For You were slain,
And have redeemed ***us*** to God by Your blood
Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,
And have made ***us*** kings and priests to our God;
And we shall reign on the earth.”
THE RAPTURE HAS HAPPENED. THE CHURCH IS IN HEAVEN BEFORE THE TRIBULATION JUDGEMENTS BEGIN IN CHAPTER 6....
Rev 5:3
And ***no man in heaven***, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
YES THERE ARE MEN IN HEAVEN AT THIS POINT. REDEEMED CHRISTIANS WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN RAPTURED VV. 9,10.
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THE RAPTURED CHURCH WILL BE WITH HIM AT HIS SECOND COMING TO THE EARTH
Col 3:4
When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Jde 1:14
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Rev 19:14
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
FreeGrace2 said:
Wrong again. It's all about context.
There was a LAST DAY of the Jewish Age.
When the King of kings returns to earth, there will be a LAST DAY for "everything as usual" on earth. Because the King will reign over the nations, and all believers will be in glorified bodies (supernatural).
Then there will be a LAST DAY of the Millennial Reign, when the present heaven and earth melt and there will be a new heaven and earth.
For the first "last day", being the last day of the Jewish Age, it's just before the age of grace. Yet, that exact day is a subject of discussion.
The last day before the Millennium is the last day of the Tribulation.
Do you really need verses for proof? Or are you not aware of these distinctions.
As for the 3rd example of a "last day", we have these:
2 Pet 3:12 - as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.
Rev 21:1 - Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
The point is: "last day" depends on what timeframe is meant.
Wrong again. It's all about context.
There was a LAST DAY of the Jewish Age.
When the King of kings returns to earth, there will be a LAST DAY for "everything as usual" on earth. Because the King will reign over the nations, and all believers will be in glorified bodies (supernatural).
Then there will be a LAST DAY of the Millennial Reign, when the present heaven and earth melt and there will be a new heaven and earth.
For the first "last day", being the last day of the Jewish Age, it's just before the age of grace. Yet, that exact day is a subject of discussion.
The last day before the Millennium is the last day of the Tribulation.
Do you really need verses for proof? Or are you not aware of these distinctions.
As for the 3rd example of a "last day", we have these:
2 Pet 3:12 - as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.
Rev 21:1 - Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
The point is: "last day" depends on what timeframe is meant.
Israel is the 144k, the first fruit, after them are those saints. It has always been the dispensationalists’ official belief that Israel will worship the Antichrist as the real Christ, while I believe in the opposite, that more Jews will turn to Christ, the REAL Yeshua HaMashiach, than ever before in history.
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