The False Teaching (& Truth) of what happens at the Rapture.
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Nehemiah 8:18
John 6:39
John 6:40
John 6:44
John 6:54
John 7:37
John 11:24
John 12:48
Now if we add these mathematically get 8. If we add cultically we can just chose any sum we want. Or we can interpret the passages cultically and the term in question, ' last day', can be defined as anything other than last day. the last possibility is the least popular, we could simply believe what Jesus said and go from there.
Nehemiah 8:18
John 6:39
John 6:40
John 6:44
John 6:54
John 7:37
John 11:24
John 12:48
Now if we add these mathematically get 8. If we add cultically we can just chose any sum we want. Or we can interpret the passages cultically and the term in question, ' last day', can be defined as anything other than last day. the last possibility is the least popular, we could simply believe what Jesus said and go from there.
FOR IN THE DAYS BEFORE THE FLOOD
doesn't have to do SO MUCH with THE TIMING OF CHRISTS return
AS IT DOES THE EVENTS THAT WERE TAKING PLACE...ANGELS ON THE EARTH WITH MAN.
AND ANGELS ON THE EARTH MEANS THAT SATAN WAS CAST OUT OF HEAVEN (ALONG WITH THE ANGELS )
BEFORE CHRIST comes to the earth
CHRIST DOESN'T RETURN UNTIL The day of the Lord, which is the day we are gathered to him, aka The day of vengeance
which is
AFTER THE WORKINGS OF SATAN WITH ALL HIS LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS.
AFTER THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED.
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood (BEFORE IT STARTED TO RAIN AND FLOOD)
THEY
WHO IS THIS 'THEY'?
Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
'the daughters of men' WERE TAKEN by the 'fallen angels' AND the flood came AND TOOK THEM away.
'BEING TAKEN'? no thank you.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
ONCE ONE IS 'TAKEN' THEY CERTAINLY ARE NO LONGER WATCHING
doesn't have to do SO MUCH with THE TIMING OF CHRISTS return
AS IT DOES THE EVENTS THAT WERE TAKING PLACE...ANGELS ON THE EARTH WITH MAN.
AND ANGELS ON THE EARTH MEANS THAT SATAN WAS CAST OUT OF HEAVEN (ALONG WITH THE ANGELS )
BEFORE CHRIST comes to the earth
CHRIST DOESN'T RETURN UNTIL The day of the Lord, which is the day we are gathered to him, aka The day of vengeance
which is
AFTER THE WORKINGS OF SATAN WITH ALL HIS LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS.
AFTER THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED.
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood (BEFORE IT STARTED TO RAIN AND FLOOD)
THEY
WHO IS THIS 'THEY'?
Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
'the daughters of men' WERE TAKEN by the 'fallen angels' AND the flood came AND TOOK THEM away.
'BEING TAKEN'? no thank you.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
ONCE ONE IS 'TAKEN' THEY CERTAINLY ARE NO LONGER WATCHING
Funny how we have no less then Jesus Himself, placing resurrection at the last day 4 times in one conversation, and you never seen this quoted once in a rapture scheme. But EVERY rapture scheme begins with 'the dead in Christ shall rise' . It is also without question that our Lord speaks well before any of the NT is put to paper. So none of the NT authors would dare, nor did they ever alter or contradict the direct words of Jesus . It doesnt take much to figure from these facts, that the context of end times teaching has our lord's own words as it center point, and all else must conform .
Its a shame ,most will prefer , fables , just like the Jews , 2,000 years ago.
Its a shame ,most will prefer , fables , just like the Jews , 2,000 years ago.
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WHAT ARE YOU EVEN SAYING? YES, THAT STATEMENT DOES MAKE SENSE.
THE CONFLICT IS WITH EVERYTHING WRITTEN ABOUT THE END TIMES AND WHO WILL BE THERE.
WHEN YE SHALL SEE THE ABOMINATION......( or just like 'the church' miraculously becomes 'the elders' the ye's miraculously become 'trib saints'? Don't you ever get tired of CHANGING THE WORDS OF GOD, FOR A THEORY OF MAN?
Genesis 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
BUT BEFORE ENOCH WAS 'RAPTURED' HE HAD RUN HIS COURSE.
AND ENOCH DID GO THROUGH THE TRIBULATION. YOU THINK THOSE 'MIGHTY MEN' WERE VERY NICE TO HIM? SUCH CONTINUAL EVIL THAT GOD FLOODED THE WORLD TO GET RID OF THEM?
Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit,
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
24 Now unto HIM that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
ONE WOULD THINK THAT EVEN IN THIS BOOK THERE MIGHT BE A SLIGHT HINT AS TO A PRE TRIB EVENT, BUT NOT SO MUCH AS A SIDEWAYS GLANCE. SAME OLE SAME OLE, LIKE PRE TRIB ISN'T OF GOD. IT CERTAINLY ISN'T OF HIS WORDS. STRAIGHT TO COMING WITH THE ANGELS TO EXECUTE JUDGMENT.
YOU WOULD THINK THERE WOULD BE JUST ONE VERSE WHERE THIS DOCTRINE COULD CATCH A BREAK BUT NO, IT NEVER EVER DOES.
Never does CHRIST mention it, and HE SAYS HE FORE TOLD US EVERYTHING. HOW CAN THAT BE?
Mark 13:21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
LOOK, IN THE SKY, IT'S CHRIST. COME TO RAPTURE YOU AWAY.
BUT IF ANY MAN WERE TO TELL ME THAT I WOULD BELIEVE HIM NOT
22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. IS THIS GODS TRUTH OR IS IT NOT BECAUSE WE KNOW JESUS NEVER MENTIONED IT. NOT ONE TIME. NOT WHEN SPEAKING ON THE LAST DAYS.
24 But in those days, AFTER THAT TRIBULATION, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.
Nice try
but you're bracketed.
2 Peter 3:3
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts
Your lust is despising what Jesus said, you've made it quite plain,
Nice try
but you're bracketed.2 Peter 3:3
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts
Your lust is despising what Jesus said, you've made it quite plain,
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Not being a trusting soul I'll post the original that John responded to below,
Today at 9:52 AM
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'Last day' is used only 8 times in all of Scripture , 4 times in John 6 . Which is why most futurists avoid it like a leper. It doesnt fit in any rapture scheme.
Today at 9:52 AM
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'Last day' is used only 8 times in all of Scripture , 4 times in John 6 . Which is why most futurists avoid it like a leper. It doesnt fit in any rapture scheme.
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