The finished work of the cross ?
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Yes and that very choice is the only way to allow God to work in us.
Good works come from faith in God who calls us to do the works he planned.
(Grace) by faith=obedience. Romans 5:2New International Version (NIV)
2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we[a] boast in the hope of the glory of God.
If obedience is lacking then your relationship with God is lacking. Immature faith is dangerous. Its very dangerous for one to stay immature in faith. God wont force obedience on no one. God wont force his gift on no one.
Good works come from faith in God who calls us to do the works he planned.
(Grace) by faith=obedience. Romans 5:2New International Version (NIV)
2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we[a] boast in the hope of the glory of God.
If obedience is lacking then your relationship with God is lacking. Immature faith is dangerous. Its very dangerous for one to stay immature in faith. God wont force obedience on no one. God wont force his gift on no one.
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I guess it comes down to how you define "force"
I force my kids to take showers, brush their teeth and comb their hair.
.if they refuse I physically made them do it when they were younger...now I do it with logic and withdrawal of privileges.
They are mature enough to understand the wisdom of being clean but still need reminders.
Eventually they will leave home and have to be independent.
God does that for us...when we are young, he may use more force and as we get older he teaches us reason and logic of why He commands us to obey certain laws.
I force my kids to take showers, brush their teeth and comb their hair.
.if they refuse I physically made them do it when they were younger...now I do it with logic and withdrawal of privileges.
They are mature enough to understand the wisdom of being clean but still need reminders.
Eventually they will leave home and have to be independent.
God does that for us...when we are young, he may use more force and as we get older he teaches us reason and logic of why He commands us to obey certain laws.
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they really arent like a hardened rule, they are the principle. like " turn the other cheek, the principle is what the spirit gives, its the same principle as bless those who curse, forgive those who sin against you....the gospel isnt lke the law, the law was detailed rules that rewuired detail keeping.
with the gospel, His words bring the spirit, or the principle into our minds, something like forgive others, that applies in our daily lives in many ways, as does turn the other cheek. if it was like the law it would apply only to when someone strikes you on the cheek,,,,,,,its the spiritual principle that is helpful and teaches us to live free in His things.
with the gospel, His words bring the spirit, or the principle into our minds, something like forgive others, that applies in our daily lives in many ways, as does turn the other cheek. if it was like the law it would apply only to when someone strikes you on the cheek,,,,,,,its the spiritual principle that is helpful and teaches us to live free in His things.
it has everything to do with whats written. those written things, were spoken By Jesus. in those words the message of salvation lives. some are still seeing no difference in the Law of moses, details and letters, and the Living message Jesus spoke. its the knowledge in those things, we...well i myself, dont see God or He doesnt speak audibly to me, possibly others, I hear because of the principles, those things that will always remain the same. to see Jesus teachings as rules is not the right thing as to my own belief....but the teachings, the principles are what are written on our heart and apply to many things we face in life. those things like anything else we learn in Life come through the message within the words.
the knowledge of Jesus laid out in front of us to learn and keep. ponder and grow in....because thats How God has always done it, always spoke and has it written and then said, keep these things. because thier is truth, Knowledge in them. if i were speaking to you, my words carry a message, what im saying is whats important, not how it is said, but what im communicating to you. wanna be a doctor, we learn through words, a child of God learns how to walk through the words of Gods only Son. its what changes our minds. they are written so that someone cant say "
God said this and lead astray, because we Know God through His word, hell never say " kill your husband. or a guy like Jim jones, if they had known the gospel, they could never fall for such things. david koresh, charles manson , hitler even. those Giys were using " this is what God wants from us" the written word is there as a safeguard to keep truth, and so we Know what spirit were hearing, very important
the knowledge of Jesus laid out in front of us to learn and keep. ponder and grow in....because thats How God has always done it, always spoke and has it written and then said, keep these things. because thier is truth, Knowledge in them. if i were speaking to you, my words carry a message, what im saying is whats important, not how it is said, but what im communicating to you. wanna be a doctor, we learn through words, a child of God learns how to walk through the words of Gods only Son. its what changes our minds. they are written so that someone cant say "
God said this and lead astray, because we Know God through His word, hell never say " kill your husband. or a guy like Jim jones, if they had known the gospel, they could never fall for such things. david koresh, charles manson , hitler even. those Giys were using " this is what God wants from us" the written word is there as a safeguard to keep truth, and so we Know what spirit were hearing, very important
AMEN and he ONLY CHASTENS SONS and DAUGHTERS whom HE RECEIVES......
God does not chasten for doing what is right........chew the cud on that one for a moment <--all who deny sin and promote the sinless perfectionist I don't sin farce......akin to standing with a pair of deuces in Black Jack and the house has a King showing........!
God does not chasten for doing what is right........chew the cud on that one for a moment <--all who deny sin and promote the sinless perfectionist I don't sin farce......akin to standing with a pair of deuces in Black Jack and the house has a King showing........!