The Glasgow razor boy and eternal security

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Everlasting-Grace said:
ok

so if you do that work BECAUSE you are saved, You are loving because you have experienced Gods love

If your doing that work to get saved, stay saved or keep from losing salvation. It is a work of self righteousness. Not a work which proceeds from the love of God. Because you have never experienced Gods love.

If abraham was found he has something to boast about.

FOr we have been saved BY GRACE, not of works. lest anyone should boast

why do you boast of all your works?
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when did i ever talk about doing my own works, or i did my works?
 
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the Proof is Israel saw GOD first hand in Person and still had times they rejected Him.
what makes you think it no longer happens?
humans are humans, they don't evolve to the point of completely changing.
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He who sins has never seen or known God (1 John 3)

Israel walked with Christ among them, and still did nto see him, They crucified him.

What makes you think they were ever saved? How can you be saved if you have never believed?
 
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when did i ever talk about doing my own works, or i did my works?
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oh, every time you say you lose salvation when you sin, then must work to regain it
Every time you say we must obey Gods commands to stay saved.

do you ever listen to yourself?
 
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if you did, i would not have to sit here and explain it to you.
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You can not explain when you yourself do not understand.

All you can do is share your understanding (misunderstanding), and prove to others that their faith in Christ is real..
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
He who sins has never seen or known God (1 John 3)

Israel walked with Christ among them, and still did nto see him, They crucified him.

What makes you think they were ever saved? How can you be saved if you have never believed?
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they KNEW who He was.
now, you're showing your level of understanding.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
oh, every time you say you lose salvation when you sin, then must work to regain it
Every time you say we must obey Gods commands to stay saved.

do you ever listen to yourself?
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i pointed out the Theological Definition of Abide.
it's a Command that Jesus Gave.
He would not give a Command if people stayed automatically 100% of the time.
 
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You can not explain when you yourself do not understand.

All you can do is share your understanding (misunderstanding), and prove to others that their faith in Christ is real..
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actually, only ONE POST revealed my personal beliefs.

the rest were debate strategy.

i even admitted to it.

you cannot even read 10 simple words of mine and understand them, but, sit here and claim you understand the Word of God.

Right :ROFL:
 
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they KNEW who He was.
now, you're showing your level of understanding.
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They knew who he was yet crucified him?

If they knew him they would have followed him

again, he who sins has never met or known God.. Are you calling John a liar?

You are showing your level of lack of understanding

Thank you for helping me increase my faith
 
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i pointed out the Theological Definition of Abide.
it's a Command that Jesus Gave.
He would not give a Command if people stayed automatically 100% of the time.
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You trying to convince yourself that you are not trying to earn your salvation.

Just like the pharisees did.
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
actually, only ONE POST revealed my personal beliefs.

the rest were debate strategy.

i even admitted to it.

you cannot even read 10 simple words of mine and understand them, but, sit here and claim you understand the Word of God.

Right :ROFL:
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Deflection again.

yawn:sleep::sleep::sleep:
 
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They knew who he was yet crucified him?

If they knew him they would have followed him

again, he who sins has never met or known God.. Are you calling John a liar?

You are showing your level of lack of understanding

Thank you for helping me increase my faith
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61. But he was silent, and he did not answer him anything. And again, The High Priest asked him and said, "Are you The Messiah, The Son of The Blessed One?"
62. But Yeshua said to him, "I AM THE LIVING GOD, and you shall behold The Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of Heaven."
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
You trying to convince yourself that you are not trying to earn your salvation.

Just like the pharisees did.
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show me how i said you can earn it.

i said it requires Regeneration, which is God doing it ALL for you in order to BE SAVED.

after that, Jesus COMMANDED to REMAIN/ABIDE in Him.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
They knew who he was yet crucified him?

If they knew him they would have followed him

again, he who sins has never met or known God.. Are you calling John a liar?

You are showing your level of lack of understanding

Thank you for helping me increase my faith
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
61. But he was silent, and he did not answer him anything. And again, The High Priest asked him and said, "Are you The Messiah, The Son of The Blessed One?"
62. But Yeshua said to him, "I AM THE LIVING GOD, and you shall behold The Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of Heaven."
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like i said when i began posting today, You, KEEP Tripping over Yourself!

Proof ^ Right there!!
 
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61. But he was silent, and he did not answer him anything. And again, The High Priest asked him and said, "Are you The Messiah, The Son of The Blessed One?"
62. But Yeshua said to him, "I AM THE LIVING GOD, and you shall behold The Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of Heaven."
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Yet we KNOW the high priest did not BELIEVE in him

Because he had him crucified

Again, John said whoever lives in sin (like this high priest) has never seen or known God.

who should I listen to? You or the apostle John?
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
show me how i said you can earn it.

i said it requires Regeneration, which is God doing it ALL for you in order to BE SAVED.

after that, Jesus COMMANDED to REMAIN/ABIDE in Him.
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Yes

So you begin in the spirit (born again)

but must perfect in the flesh by remaining abiding in him (its all of your power. Not Gods power)

so you just proved my point. Also read gal 3 and what Paul says of those who do this
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
like i said when i began posting today, You, KEEP Tripping over Yourself!

Proof ^ Right there!!
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Nah

you tripped over yourself

John said they never have seen or known God. (believed)

What you proved that thius high priest Had god right in front of hi, and still did not believe. Because he could not see him for who he was.

I am not depending on self my friend.. I can trip when I am depending on God.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
Yet we KNOW the high priest did not BELIEVE in him

Because he had him crucified

Again, John said whoever lives in sin (like this high priest) has never seen or known God.

who should I listen to? You or the apostle John?
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LOOK at this:

YOU MAKE A DEFINITIVE STATEMENT
GET CAUGHT IN SHOWING YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT THE WORD OF GOD
and still keep YAPPING!!

I discerned you from word GO.

You make an idiot of yourself and too ignorant to shut up and walk away...

You only have PROVEN ME to be CORRECT!
 
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