THE GREAT DEBATE...LAW AND GRACE

[kennethcadwell]

Isaiah 5:1-30 - Now will I sing to my wellbeloved a song of my beloved touching his vineyard. My wellbeloved hath a vineyard in a very fruitful hill: (Read More...)

Psalms 127:1-3 - (A Song of degrees for Solomon.) Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh [but] in vain. (Read More...)

Psalms 41:4 - I said, LORD, be merciful unto me: heal my soul; for I have sinned against thee.

Job 13:23 - How many [are] mine iniquities and sins? make me to know my transgression and my sin.

Exodus 32:14 - And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

1 Corinthians 15:9 - For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

Romans 14:11 - For it is written, [As] I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

Romans 5:1 - Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

Romans 4:5 - But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Acts 2:1-47 - And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. (Read More...)

Acts 1:18 - Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.

Acts 1:16 - Men [and] brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.

Luke 15:17-21 - And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger! (Read More...)

Luke 15:17-20 - And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger! (Read More...)

Luke 15:1-10 - Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him. (Read More...)

Luke 7:37-48 - And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that [Jesus] sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment, (Read More...)

Luke 6:21 - Blessed [are ye] that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed [are ye] that weep now: for ye shall laugh.

Luke 5:32 - I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Mark 14:72 - And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.

Mark 2:17 - When Jesus heard [it], he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Matthew 27:3-5 - Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, (Read More...)

Matthew 26:75 - And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.

Matthew 21:29 - He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.

Matthew 9:13 - But go ye and learn what [that] meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Matthew 5:4 - Blessed [are] they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

Matthew 3:8 - Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

Matthew 3:7 - But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Matthew 3:6 - And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.

Malachi 3:7 - Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept [them]. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

Zechariah 12:10 - And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for [his] only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn.

Zechariah 1:3 - Therefore say thou unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Turn ye unto me, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will turn unto you, saith the LORD of hosts.

 

[Mitspa]

Heb 6:1 ¶ Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,


Ro 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

READ IT AND BELIEVE IT!

Re: THE GREAT DEBATE...LAW AND GRACE

1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Ro 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.


Its odd that some cannot read these passages and believe what they clearly say? ​

 

[kennethcadwell]

Heb 6:1 ¶ Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,


Ro 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

READ IT AND BELIEVE IT!

Re: THE GREAT DEBATE...LAW AND GRACE

1Co 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Ro 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.


Its odd that some cannot read these passages and believe what they clearly say? ​

Once again though you are misusing the context of Hebrews 6:1, as it is not referring to those things not needed any more.
What it is saying is if you are a true believer you would not have to go back to those things, for you will be walking properly in grace.
Those however who are not walking properly need to be brought back to repent, but it says it is impossible for those who like walking in darkness/sins and don't want to give them up because they love them more then God. You need to keep reading and take everything that was said into context.
Which if you look at verse 8 it says if you are still bearing thorns and briers ( sins that have not been confessed ) then you are close to being cursed and your end is to be burnt ( lake of fire ).

Hebrews 6:10-11
For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.
And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:

Hebrews 6:15
And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise.

Hebrews 10:16
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

[h=1]Hebrews 10:19-25
Therefore, brethren, having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh, 21 and having a High Priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promisedis faithful. 24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.[/h]
[h=1]Hebrews 10:26-27
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.[/h]
[h=1]Hebrews 10:36
For you have need of endurance, so that after you have done the will of God, you may receive the promise:[/h]
Walking in willful sins which are sins that are not repented of and confessed for forgiveness, is not doing the will of God.

 

[kennethcadwell]

To those who think that trying to follow or be justified by the mosaic law is the only way to sin, I have a scripture that shows any time you don't do something that is good and proper to do it is a sin;

James 4:17

Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

 

[haz]

To those who think that trying to follow or be justified by the mosaic law is the only way to sin, I have a scripture that shows any time you don't do something that is good and proper to do it is a sin;
James 4:17

Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

Just a quick reply as I'm going off to work soon.

Again you are taking scripture out of context.

Read from the beginning of James 4 to get context. You should not just assume the word "good" means whatever you want it to mean.

Note that in James 4:4 it addresses spiritual adulterers ( that is those into spiritual adultery with Hagar, who is symbolic for righteousness by works of the law, Gal 4:24).

Note the confirmation of this in James 4:11,12 where it confronts these spiritual adulterers who judge righteousness by works of the law.

These spiritual adulterers are non believers, thus we see in James 4:7,8 a salvation call to them that they should submit to God (as these legalists/sinners seek to establish their own righteousness, and have not submitted to God, Rom 10:3) and be cleansed and purified (1John 3:3).

Clearly the "good" that James 4:17 refers to is to obey God's will, that we believe on Jesus (John 6:40). The "good" is to keep Christ's commandment that we believe on Him (John 3:16). The "good" is to do the works of believing on Jesus, John 6:29.

Remember its its the sin of unbelief in Jesus that the world is convicted of, John 16:9.

 

[kennethcadwell]

Just a quick reply as I'm going off to work soon.

Again you are taking scripture out of context.

Read from the beginning of James 4 to get context. You should not just assume the word "good" means whatever you want it to mean.

Note that in James 4:4 it addresses spiritual adulterers ( that is those into spiritual adultery with Hagar, who is symbolic for righteousness by works of the law, Gal 4:24).

Note the confirmation of this in James 4:11,12 where it confronts these spiritual adulterers who judge righteousness by works of the law.

These spiritual adulterers are non believers, thus we see in James 4:7,8 a salvation call to them that they should submit to God (as these legalists/sinners seek to establish their own righteousness, and have not submitted to God, Rom 10:3) and be cleansed and purified (1John 3:3).

Clearly the "good" that James 4:17 refers to is to obey God's will, that we believe on Jesus (John 6:40). The "good" is to keep Christ's commandment that we believe on Him (John 3:16). The "good" is to do the works of believing on Jesus, John 6:29.

Remember its its the sin of unbelief in Jesus that the world is convicted of, John 16:9.

Yes it does mean doing God's will, and it also points out any time you sin it is not God's will.
James is making another point that if you think sin can not be imputed on you, and there is no law for you then you are double minded and deceived.


James 4:8
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

[h=1]James 4:11-12[/h]11 Do not speak evil of one another, brethren. He who speaks evil of a brother and judges his brother, speaks evil of the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. 12 There is one Lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. Who are you to judge another?


There is only one Lawgiver ( Jesus Christ ), and what are His laws that we are to follow ?
What ever He told us in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Once again we have another apostle in James who is saying that we are not to cancel out anything Jesus said as they are all valid to a believer still.

 

[Hoffco]

James 4:11-12 and Rom.2:13 are very cler, one must be "a doer of the law" to be "justified"(saved) Paul and James and Jesus taught that we must be obeying God's moral laws to be saved. James is saying. if one speaks "evil", lies, of/to, a brother, they are lost, or CLOSE to being lost, because they don't obey the law, BUT, making new laws, as if the were a god ,equal to God, the only Judge is Jesus, not us. Many claim faith in Jesus , but they are lost because they do not obey God.

 

[haz]

Yes it does mean doing God's will,

Since you acknowledge James 4:17 refers to doing God's will (believe on Jesus, John 6:40), then why do you determine your righteousness by obedience to the law? The law is not of faith (Gal 3:12) and only applies to those under it (Rom 3:19).

it also points out any time you sin it is not God's will.

True. But you and I see this differently.
Like I said before "sin" applies to those without Christ's covering, the non-believers.
Legalists are non-believers as they determine righteousness by deeds of the law.
Legalists make themselves sinners (Gal 2:18) as they are under the jurisdiction of the law (Rom 3:19) and fail to keep the law perfectly (James 2:10) thus being guilty of ALL the law.

So, we see that legalists are the ones who "sin" as they choose to be under the jurisdiction of the law (Rom 3:19), which is not of faith (Gal 3:12) and thus are disobedient to God's will that we believe on Jesus (John 6:40), where our faith is counted for righteousness (Rom 4:5). To be under the law, that you always push here, is to reject Christ's sacrifice (unbelief) and thus make yourself a sinner, which is against God's will.

None of us is perfect in physical behavior, but at least Christians are covered by Christ's righteousness, holiness, sinlessness.

That means that the charge of sin (transgression of the law, 1John 3:4, unrighteousness, 1John 5:17) does not apply to Christians as we're not under the law (Rom 8:2, Rom 10:4, Gal 3:25, Gal 5:18, 1Tim 1:9), and our faith is counted for righteousness (Rom 4:5).

James is making another point that if you think sin can not be imputed on you, and there is no law for you then you are double minded and deceived.

Considering, for example, that God says in 1John 3:9 that we "cannot sin", and in 1Pet 4:1 that we've "ceased from sin", the doctrine you follow suggests that God contradicts Himself.
I can assure you God does not contradict Himself.

And as for your suggestion that Christians are not under any law, remember that Rom 8:2 says we're under the law of the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.

I note you didn't tie your double minded point with the adultery that James 4 speaks against. Is it that the doctrine you follow cannot explain their link?

As both StandingChrist and I have already pointed out, the adultery that scripture often warns against is the spiritual adultery with Hagar, who is symbolic for righteousness by works of the law (Gal 4:24).

James 4:4 is addressing spiritual adulterers. That is double-minded, lukewarm folk who mix works of the law, with grace.
They profess to be one spirit with Jesus (saved by grace), but then they determine righteousness by works of the law (which is symbolized as Hagar, Gal 4:24).

To mix works of the law, with grace, is spiritual adultery. And it's this that James 4 is addressing, as noted in James 4:4, 8,11,12.

There is only one Lawgiver ( Jesus Christ ), and what are His laws that we are to follow ?
What ever He told us in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Once again we have another apostle in James who is saying that we are not to cancel out anything Jesus said as they are all valid to a believer still.

Note Matt 5:19
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven

Jesus did not break one of the least commandments. And he taught them. Jesus is called great in the kingdom of heaven.
You and I, however, have not been able to keep the law perfectly.

Whilst we both agree Jesus taught the law, you miss the point of his doing this for us, and also the gospel message that he also gave.

Christians establish the law (Rom 3:31) in that we agree that it is just, good and holy (Rom 7:12) and that we all were deserving the death penalty for our sin. Mankind needed a savior. Thus we saw that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever should believe on him will have everlasting life.

What you miss is that you still hold on to deeds of the law for righteousness. You don't see yourself as righteous in Christ because you only see righteousness by deeds of the law. This is the spiritual adultery (double mindedness) that James 4 speaks against. The law is not of faith, Gal 3:12.

We cannot mix works of the law, with grace. To do so is to be lukewarm.
Rom 11:6
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

 

[john832]

After 105 pages of the great debacle, can one of you explain to me why Jesus Christ lied?

Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail.

Mat 5:17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
Mat 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

 

[haz]

After 105 pages of the great debacle, can one of you explain to me why Jesus Christ lied?

Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail.

Mat 5:17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
Mat 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

Your the one suggesting Jesus lied.

As for Christians, we agree that the law is just, good and holy, Rom 7:12.
Christians even establish the law, Rom 3:31.
Thus our old man was justly crucified with Christ, for sin (Rom 6:6).
That body is already dead (by faith) because of sin, Rom 8:10.

A Christians life is now hid with Christ in God, Col 3:3.

 

[john832]

Your the one suggesting Jesus lied.

As for Christians, we agree that the law is just, good and holy, Rom 7:12.
Christians even establish the law, Rom 3:31.
Thus our old man was justly crucified with Christ, for sin (Rom 6:6).
That body is already dead (by faith) because of sin, Rom 8:10.

A Christians life is now hid with Christ in God, Col 3:3.

No, I am asking for one of you who believe the Law was done away to show me how that is possible if not a jot or a tittle has passed.

How about explaining it?

 

[prove-all]

No, I am asking for one of you who believe the Law was done away to show me how that is possible if not a jot or a tittle has passed.

How about explaining it?

or this one people do not like to mention


19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so,

he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven:

but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

 

[haz]

No, I am asking for one of you who believe the Law was done away to show me how that is possible if not a jot or a tittle has passed.

How about explaining it?

Rom 10:4 explains it. Christ is the END of the law for righteousness to anyone who believes.

In other words, works of the law as the only way to attain righteousness has now ended as Christ is now the alternative, where our faith is counted for righteousness (Rom 4:5).

My previous 2 posts confirm this.

also my post #2088 even explains Matt 5:19, which prove-all thought that nobody had discussed.

 

[Mitspa]

No, I am asking for one of you who believe the Law was done away to show me how that is possible if not a jot or a tittle has passed.

How about explaining it?

Well Christ fulfilled it all for those who are in Him...and in Him we are New Creations...the old things have passed away BEHOLD ALL things have become new.... you explain how part of the law is finished in Christ and other parts are not?

 

[prove-all]

Rom 10:4 explains it. Christ is the END of the law for righteousness to anyone who believes.

In other words, works of the law as the only way to attain righteousness has now ended as Christ is now the alternative, where our faith is counted for righteousness (Rom 4:5).

My previous 2 posts confirm this.

also my post #2088 even explains Matt 5:19, which prove-all thought that nobody had discussed.

you are right i did not read any posts of youres beforehand,

or any of the other 2090 other posts, i just happened to add my 2 cents on the end.

the bible tells us not to argue about the law, you can do as you please but i will not.

the whole arguement boiles down to the sabbath observence,

I myself consider it a blessing and a gift.


but (whosoever) shall do and teach them, (the same) shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

but if you think above is only talking about (Jesus), it is wrong idea.

 

[newbirth]

Rom 10:4 explains it. Christ is the END of the law for righteousness to anyone who believes.

In other words, works of the law as the only way to attain righteousness has now ended as Christ is now the alternative, where our faith is counted for righteousness (Rom 4:5).

My previous 2 posts confirm this.

also my post #2088 even explains Matt 5:19, which prove-all thought that nobody had discussed.

Christ is the alternative for them that believe....if one does not believe ....and there is no law to condemn then they are become righteous...God concluded all under sin.....that they who believe in Christ might be delivered from sin...not that they continue to sin and say they are not under the law...

Romans 13:8-10King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.


Do you see even though we are not under the law how Paul encourages us to do the things contained in the law...
Ephesians 4:28
Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

so it is wrong for one to say....

That means that the charge of sin (transgression of the law, 1John 3:4, unrighteousness, 1John 5:17) does not apply to Christians as we're not under the law (Rom 8:2, Rom 10:4, Gal 3:25, Gal 5:18, 1Tim 1:9), and our faith is counted for righteousness (Rom 4:5).

the wages of sin is still death...and if one in Christ is not charged of sin...then why would scripture say...
1 John 5:16
If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

Romans 6:11-13King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.



Romans 2:5-7King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
[SUP]7 [/SUP]To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

 

[Mitspa]

you are right i did not read any posts of youres beforehand,

or any of the other 2090 other posts, i just happened to add my 2 cents on the end.

the bible tells us not to argue about the law, you can do as you please but i will not.

the whole arguement boiles down to the sabbath observence,

I myself consider it a blessing and a gift.


but (whosoever) shall do and teach them, (the same) shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

but if you think above is only talking about (Jesus), it is wrong idea.

The Lord had a whole lot more written on the subject like the purpose of the law...no one "does" them except those through Him who love and that only those that teach grace teach others the true standard of purpose of the law...

 

[Mitspa]

Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

 

[Hizikyah]

Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."

 

[kennethcadwell]

Since you acknowledge James 4:17 refers to doing God's will (believe on Jesus, John 6:40), then why do you determine your righteousness by obedience to the law? The law is not of faith (Gal 3:12) and only applies to those under it (Rom 3:19).



True. But you and I see this differently.
Like I said before "sin" applies to those without Christ's covering, the non-believers.
Legalists are non-believers as they determine righteousness by deeds of the law.
Legalists make themselves sinners (Gal 2:18) as they are under the jurisdiction of the law (Rom 3:19) and fail to keep the law perfectly (James 2:10) thus being guilty of ALL the law.

So, we see that legalists are the ones who "sin" as they choose to be under the jurisdiction of the law (Rom 3:19), which is not of faith (Gal 3:12) and thus are disobedient to God's will that we believe on Jesus (John 6:40), where our faith is counted for righteousness (Rom 4:5). To be under the law, that you always push here, is to reject Christ's sacrifice (unbelief) and thus make yourself a sinner, which is against God's will.

None of us is perfect in physical behavior, but at least Christians are covered by Christ's righteousness, holiness, sinlessness.

That means that the charge of sin (transgression of the law, 1John 3:4, unrighteousness, 1John 5:17) does not apply to Christians as we're not under the law (Rom 8:2, Rom 10:4, Gal 3:25, Gal 5:18, 1Tim 1:9), and our faith is counted for righteousness (Rom 4:5).




Considering, for example, that God says in 1John 3:9 that we "cannot sin", and in 1Pet 4:1 that we've "ceased from sin", the doctrine you follow suggests that God contradicts Himself.
I can assure you God does not contradict Himself.

And as for your suggestion that Christians are not under any law, remember that Rom 8:2 says we're under the law of the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.

I note you didn't tie your double minded point with the adultery that James 4 speaks against. Is it that the doctrine you follow cannot explain their link?

As both StandingChrist and I have already pointed out, the adultery that scripture often warns against is the spiritual adultery with Hagar, who is symbolic for righteousness by works of the law (Gal 4:24).

James 4:4 is addressing spiritual adulterers. That is double-minded, lukewarm folk who mix works of the law, with grace.
They profess to be one spirit with Jesus (saved by grace), but then they determine righteousness by works of the law (which is symbolized as Hagar, Gal 4:24).

To mix works of the law, with grace, is spiritual adultery. And it's this that James 4 is addressing, as noted in James 4:4, 8,11,12.




Note Matt 5:19
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven

Jesus did not break one of the least commandments. And he taught them. Jesus is called great in the kingdom of heaven.
You and I, however, have not been able to keep the law perfectly.

Whilst we both agree Jesus taught the law, you miss the point of his doing this for us, and also the gospel message that he also gave.

Christians establish the law (Rom 3:31) in that we agree that it is just, good and holy (Rom 7:12) and that we all were deserving the death penalty for our sin. Mankind needed a savior. Thus we saw that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever should believe on him will have everlasting life.

What you miss is that you still hold on to deeds of the law for righteousness. You don't see yourself as righteous in Christ because you only see righteousness by deeds of the law. This is the spiritual adultery (double mindedness) that James 4 speaks against. The law is not of faith, Gal 3:12.

We cannot mix works of the law, with grace. To do so is to be lukewarm.
Rom 11:6
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

You are misusing the context in 1 John 3:9.
For if you think this means sin can not be imputed on a believer, it is not.
Because then you will be having it contradict what he said back 1 John 1:8-10, and 2:1. What John is saying in 3:9 goes hand and hand with the those others, so when you take scripture to interpret scripture to get the full meaning it would go like this.
One who is born of God does not willfully sin, for they will not let them control them and will confess their sins to the Lord to receive remission for them by His blood.

You keep wanting to twist things and make it be spiritual and not an actual physical sin. That is fallacy and 1 Peter 4:1 you gave only says you have ceased from sin if you arm yourself with the same mind the Lord had. He walked with love, self control, and faithfulness. The same thing Paul says we as believers are to have;

[h=1]Galatians 5:22-26[/h]22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

If you are in Christ you will show self control, and you will turn away from all your passions and desires of the flesh. Not still do them and not worry because they no longer can be imputed on you again.

Here we have the Apostle Paul talking to Apostle Timothy:

1 Timothy 5:22
Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.

2 Timothy 2:21-26
If you keep yourself pure, you will be a utensil God can use for his purpose. Your life will be clean, and you will be ready for the Master to use you for every good work. 22 Run from anything that stimulates youthful lust. Follow anything that makes you want to do right. Pursue faith and love and peace, and enjoy the companionship of those who call on the Lord with pure hearts. 23Again I say, don't get involved in foolish, ignorant arguments that only start fights. 24 The Lord's servants must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone. They must be able to teach effectively and be patient with difficult people. 25 They should gently teach those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people's hearts, and they will believe the truth. 26 Then they will come to their senses and escape from the Devil's trap. For they have been held captive by him to do whatever he wants.

Paul tells Timothy who is another apostle that he can become impure again do to sin, and says only if he remains pure will he be acceptable for use by God to do His will. And impure person who does not confess their sins because they believe they can not be imputed on them any more opposes the truth, and Paul says perhaps God will change their heart. For it says that they are captive to the Devil believing they can do whatever they want.