The Heresy of Perfectionism

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eternally-gratefull

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A wise man once told me ''Remember my friend, we speak, and we let the Spirit do the work. If anyone has an issue with Jesus, it will show. Mouths speak the abominations of the heart.''

You speak the evil that is in your heart, and I do pray God will soften your heart and lead you to truth.
there you go attacking again. is that all you know how to do? does this convince you you are right? If it does, I guess I will let you have this small time of peace. But I pray God shows you the truth of your pride. and refusal to repent and give ALL to him, and stop trying to work to earn his grace.
 
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Originally Posted by 4runner

A wise man once told me ''Remember my friend, we speak, and we let the Spirit do the work. If anyone has an issue with Jesus, it will show. Mouths speak the abominations of the heart.''

You speak the evil that is in your heart, and I do pray God will soften your heart and lead you to truth.

there you go attacking again. is that all you know how to do? does this convince you you are right? If it does, I guess I will let you have this small time of peace. But I pray God shows you the truth of your pride. and refusal to repent and give ALL to him, and stop trying to work to earn his grace.
the sad thing is i meant every word. the post above was out of love, but you take is as an attack. rather than anger, I pray God will give you godly sorrow, so that it may bring you to repentance
 
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eternally-gratefull

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It shows...no that was sarcam
Your post say that you are
I am sad for you
well good be. But thats ok. you don't need to be. I have gods spirit as a guarantee. I have his gift of eternal life. I strive to be the best I can be, I run the race trying to do all I can for God while I am here. Although I know I will never get there.

I have to get to bed. I have to work in the morning. I will pray for your tormented soul.
 
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AnandaHya

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you know EG sometimes I think people know what I'm talking about but they don't understand basic words like:

licentious and anathema'd

side note for those who don't know the meaning to those terms:

LICENTIOUS

1
: lacking legal or moral restraints; especially : disregarding sexual restraints
2
: marked by disregard for strict rules of correctness

\ ANATHEMA

1
a : one that is cursed by ecclesiastical authority
b : someone or something intensely disliked or loathed &#8212;usually used as a predicate nominative <this notion was anathema to most of his countrymen &#8212; S. J. Gould>
2
a : a ban or curse solemnly pronounced by ecclesiastical authority and accompanied by excommunication
b : the denunciation of something as accursed
c : a vigorous denunciation : curse

ok back to your regularly scheduled program.. anyone see those missing train tracks?
 
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mmmm... should i post...should I not post... mmmm, oh why not....

2 Corinthians 11:13-15
New King James Version (NKJV)
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.


" Professional praying chills and kills both preaching and praying. Much of the lax devotion and lazy, irreverent attitudes in congregational praying are attributable to professional praying in the pulpit. Long, discursive, dry, and inane are the prayers in many pulpits. Without unction or heart, they fall like a killing frost on all the graces of worship. Death-dealing prayers they are. Every vestige of devotion has perished under their breath. The deader they are the longer they grow. A plea for short praying, live praying, real heart praying, praying by the Holy Spirit—direct, specific, ardent, simple, unctuous in the pulpit—is in order" - EM Bounds
Very true, but be careful, Zone doesnt believe in praying in the Holy Spirit. I would hate for her to put you on her list of heretics.

As far as the scripture you post it is true, we must have discernment being able to truth from falsehood. being able to tell genuine believers from apostates or false converts. We need to be able to tell the difference between ministers of Satan and ministers of light. We need to know the authentic in such away that any counterfeit will be clearly detected.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Originally Posted by 4runner

A wise man once told me ''Remember my friend, we speak, and we let the Spirit do the work. If anyone has an issue with Jesus, it will show. Mouths speak the abominations of the heart.''

You speak the evil that is in your heart, and I do pray God will soften your heart and lead you to truth.

the sad thing is i meant every word. the post above was out of love, but you take is as an attack. rather than anger, I pray God will give you godly sorrow, so that it may bring you to repentance
lol, You did not give scripture. You gave what someone told you. I don't care how it was given. It was an attack. because you can't prove your point.

Like I said. I don't need prayer. I have repented. I am not trying to earn my way to heaven. That is you my friend. Keep thinking you can earn your way. I pray you see the lie that satan has taught you. But thats all I can do. Your mind is closed. Your heart is closed. And your pride is to deep. Only God can help you now.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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you know EG sometimes I think people know what I'm talking about but they don't understand basic words like:

licentious and anathema'd

side note for those who don't know the meaning to those terms:

LICENTIOUS

1
: lacking legal or moral restraints; especially : disregarding sexual restraints
2
: marked by disregard for strict rules of correctness

\ ANATHEMA

1
a : one that is cursed by ecclesiastical authority
b : someone or something intensely disliked or loathed —usually used as a predicate nominative <this notion was anathema to most of his countrymen — S. J. Gould>
2
a : a ban or curse solemnly pronounced by ecclesiastical authority and accompanied by excommunication
b : the denunciation of something as accursed
c : a vigorous denunciation : curse

ok back to your regularly scheduled program.. anyone see those missing train tracks?
hey sis. Let me add scripotural defenitions for those words.

Licentious is a person who thinks he can say a few words. say the sinners prayer. But he does not need to change his life. He is not a sinner anyway, if he though he was, he would change. so he continues to live like he did before because he has not truely repented. His words were just that. words.

Anathma'd in the literal sense means damned. Or accursed. or rejected.
 

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Very true, but be careful, Zone doesnt believe in praying in the Holy Spirit. I would hate for her to put you on her list of heretics.

As far as the scripture you post it is true, we must have discernment being able to truth from falsehood. being able to tell genuine believers from apostates or false converts. We need to be able to tell the difference between ministers of Satan and ministers of light. We need to know the authentic in such away that any counterfeit will be clearly detected.
such a liar.
such a babe.
 
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lol, You did not give scripture. You gave what someone told you. I don't care how it was given. It was an attack. because you can't prove your point.
you want scripture?

Matthew 15
18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
 
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eternally-gratefull

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God's spirit does not react in the way you react. I pray one day you will come to this truth
You need to look in the mirror. And listen to all the people who have spoken to you about your anger. I could care less if you listen to me. I am just a man. But I do care about your soul. And if anyone can convince you. let them. You cane hate on me all you want. it will not change my love, my adoration, my gratefulness. My joy I have in Christ.

Seems your the only one who thinks I am angry and have no joy. Maybe this should show you something. But I am afraid it wont :(

Good night!
 
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I am not trying to earn my way to heaven. .
You cannot earn you way to Heaven, no one can but you can earn your way to Hell. I hope you come to this knowledge before you end up there.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
 
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AnandaHya

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Very true, but be careful, Zone doesnt believe in praying in the Holy Spirit. I would hate for her to put you on her list of heretics.

As far as the scripture you post it is true, we must have discernment being able to truth from falsehood. being able to tell genuine believers from apostates or false converts. We need to be able to tell the difference between ministers of Satan and ministers of light. We need to know the authentic in such away that any counterfeit will be clearly detected.
nah Zone loves me as a sister in Christ and I give her the same respect and love.

Francis Frangipane Counterfeit Discernment End Times Prophetic, Prophecy, Visions, Dreams, Revelation, Christian Blog

thought this was interesting....
 
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Abiding

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there may be a need to taper back on those nutritional suppliments..:)
 
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AnandaHya

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You need to look in the mirror. And listen to all the people who have spoken to you about your anger. I could care less if you listen to me. I am just a man. But I do care about your soul. And if anyone can convince you. let them. You cane hate on me all you want. it will not change my love, my adoration, my gratefulness. My joy I have in Christ.

Seems your the only one who thinks I am angry and have no joy. Maybe this should show you something. But I am afraid it wont :(

Good night!
nit EG, God's peace ;)