The Heresy of Perfectionism

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zone

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Of course it is for today, Unless god is a liar, and his word means nothing.
God's True.
you're the liar.
no five fold for today.
foundation already laid.
ever heard of Jesus?

you know....the Cornerstone?
and his Apostles? Books of Acts?

ring a bell?

 
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oh btw: do you plan to tell us what THE FIVE FOLD MINISTRY IS FOR TODAY OR NOT?
Same thing it has always been for you can find the answer in the scriptures

For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ
 
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eternally-gratefull

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pffffttt.....he's an agent anyways.
can't we tell by now?
i got a pretty good idea who called him over too.
I am not going to make assumptions. Just expose the false teaching. I think people see him for who he is now. he has lost his light. Not going to spend to much more time on him. He reminds me of a scott who has alot of anger..lol

I love both of the them though. And just pray god pricks their hearts.
 
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God's True.
you're the liar.
If there is no Apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelist and teachers, then God is a liar, and His word means nothing. however God's word is true and there are Apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelist and teachers,
 

zone

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Same thing it has always been for you can find the answer in the scriptures

For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ
go and learn what that meaneth.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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If there is no Apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelist and teachers, then God is a liar, and His word means nothing. however God's word is true and there are Apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelist and teachers,
Yes there are. And God has given us his book so we can discern who are the truth men of God and who are not. As pual said. test each spirit.
 

zone

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NO MORE APOSTLES
NO MORE PROPHETS
 
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Originally Posted by 4runner

Same thing it has always been for you can find the answer in the scriptures

For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ
go and learn what that meaneth.
There is no mystery it means what it says
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I thought that was impossible?
What that people can see you for who you are? How many people in the many threads you have made who might even agree with you have gotten on you about your anger? I have even seen you attack them. Even they are afraid to stick by you because your making them look bad.

You say you give scripture. But whenever you do at least I(and a few others) have shown context of scripture and shown you why we can't agree with you.

what do you do when we give scripture> Just tell us we are wrong with no reasing using scripture why, or make ad hominem attacks.

and you wonder why people think you are a baby Christian? (if one at all)
 
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What that people can see you for who you are?
I am sure some do, and others, well I dont care what they think. I know what God says about me ;)

I understand that you are doing your best to run me down and run me off, but these are the fact. You words are meaningless. If anyone is showing themselves it is you, and I will pray that God reveals Himself to you, and that you repent from your sin, and that God will give you peace, and joy, so that you do not have to vent you self hate out onto other people
 
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Zone, and EG, you may not believe this but my heart breaks, not for the harsh treatment you show to me or others, but for you. Because your souls are tormented, (you post screem it) and you are lost, and do not even know it. I sincerely pray God will reveal Himself to you, before you wake up one day in Hell.

This is not an attack or sarcasm. I am truly concerned for your eternal souls
 
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I am sure some do, and others, well I dont care what they think. I know what God says about me ;)

I understand that you are doing your best to run me down and run me off, but these are the fact. You words are meaningless. If anyone is showing themselves it is you, and I will pray that God reveals Himself to you, and that you repent from your sin, and that God will give you peace, and joy, so that you do not have to vent you self hate out onto other people
ok, now that I am up off the floor from laughing so hard.

4runner you are deceived. You think I do not have joy? You think I do not have peace? You think you are a threat to me, and threaten my joy and peace in Christ? Don't give yourself so much credit.

you do not offend me

you do not threaten me (you can't I am in Christ)

I am not trying to run you down. I am trying to show you Gods truth. You do not even know who I am, You keep assuming I am a licentious believer. You can't even get that right. I do follow Gods laws, because I do love him. I am not preaching against this. It is only you who thinks I am.

I am not venting or showing hate to anyone. I hate no one.

You on the other hand, but done nothing but shown hate and anger since you walked into this forum.

what did you think> You were going to come in here and open everyone eyes to your form of truth and no one was going to step in and expose you? Maybe this is why you are so angry??



 
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A wise man once told me ''Remember my friend, we speak, and we let the Spirit do the work. If anyone has an issue with Jesus, it will show. Mouths speak the abominations of the heart.''

You speak the evil that is in your heart, and I do pray God will soften your heart and lead you to truth.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Thats the thing you dont because scripture opposes your doctrine
lol.. well you have not proved that. you have not once used scripture, or the passage of any scripture we have posted to show how we were wrong in your interpretation. so forgive me if I laugh at your arrogance!

I pray you one day see this. if you want anyone to listen to you. and at least give you an ear. you have to learn to do this. otherwise people will see you for what you are.

your not the only one. we see it all the time. not just in hear. but our everyday lives. if it was not so sad, it would be laughable.
 
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AnandaHya

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mmmm... should i post...should I not post... mmmm, oh why not....

2 Corinthians 11:13-15
New King James Version (NKJV)
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.


" Professional praying chills and kills both preaching and praying. Much of the lax devotion and lazy, irreverent attitudes in congregational praying are attributable to professional praying in the pulpit. Long, discursive, dry, and inane are the prayers in many pulpits. Without unction or heart, they fall like a killing frost on all the graces of worship. Death-dealing prayers they are. Every vestige of devotion has perished under their breath. The deader they are the longer they grow. A plea for short praying, live praying, real heart praying, praying by the Holy Spirit—direct, specific, ardent, simple, unctuous in the pulpit—is in order" - EM Bounds
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Zone, and EG, you may not believe this but my heart breaks, not for the harsh treatment you show to me or others, but for you. Because your souls are tormented, (you post screem it) and you are lost, and do not even know it. I sincerely pray God will reveal Himself to you, before you wake up one day in Hell.

This is not an attack or sarcasm. I am truly concerned for your eternal souls
well guess what. we are concerned for yours.

I am not in torment. Have you heard anyone but yourself tell me to calm my anger? or to quel my attacks? I am not attacking anyone. I am exposing a lie from the pits of hell.

you believe in a works based gospel. Paul said if anyone teaches this gospel. it is to be anathema'd.