The Holy Spirit convicts of sin
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Here is an article from the Paul Ellis that the OP mentioned .
How Does the Holy Spirit Convict Us?
Through the law,” says the mixed-grace preacher. “It is by God’s law that we are convicted. When you sin, the Holy Spirit will remind you of God’s holy commands and show you the way to go.”
The Bible says you are not under law, but grace. But if we get rid of the law, how will we know how to please the Lord? How will the Holy Spirit set us on the straight and narrow? Or to use a recent example I read on Charisma News, how will we know it’s a bad idea to steal from Walmart?
The mixed-grace preacher says the law shows us the way of life. Yet the hyper-grace preacher Paul said the law ministers death (2 Cor. 3:7). Something doesn’t add up.
The mixed-grace preacher describes the Holy Spirit as a Spirit of law, but the writer of Hebrews said he is the Spirit of grace (Heb 10:29). Again, something doesn’t add up.
I have heard people say they were convicted of sin while reading the law and that this caused them to run to God in repentance. These experiences testify to the true ministry of the law—it helps us recognize sin and our need for grace. But the law is not the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Grace does not minister to you through the law.
The ministry that brought death, … was engraved in letters on stone… If the ministry that condemns men is glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! (2 Cor 3:7-9)
Look into the mirror of the law and you will feel condemned, every time. That’s what the law does. It points out your faults and failings. But that is not what the Holy Spirit does. That is not the more glorious ministry that brings righteousness.
When you sin it takes no faith to look into the mirror of the law and agree that you made a mess. It takes faith to listen to the Holy Spirit and agree that in Christ you are as righteous and holy as he is! This is the good news that turns sinners into saints. This is the startling revelation that empowers you to go and sin no more.
How does the Spirit of grace convict us?
A law-conscious preacher will define conviction (elegcho in John 16:8) as fault-finding and rebuke. But an interpretation of conviction which is more consistent with the Holy Spirit’s gracious character is expose, or bring into the light. (More here.)
How does the Holy Spirit convict us? He does it by turning on the lights, not to shame you (Jesus carried your shame), but to show you the way to life. Ian Thomas describes it like this:
The Holy Spirit is like a man with a lamp entering a dark and dirty room, and what you have learned to live with in the dark becomes repugnant in the light.
Think of Saul on the road to Damascus (Acts 9:3). By his own account he was chief of sinners. Then the lights went on and he became a different man.
I have written elsewhere about the need for a new covenant definition of conviction, one that does not emphasize your badness but God’s goodness and grace.
But the simple fact is the Holy Spirit will never convict you of your sin. When you sin, your conscience may condemn you, the law will condemn you, the judge and jury may condemn you, the religious may condemn you, and the devil will certainly condemn you, but against the chorus of condemners stands the sweet Holy Spirit who defends you and draws you to grace.
The Holy Spirit’s conviction has nothing to do with your sin and everything to do with God’s grace. It’s not about the bad thing you’ve done but the good thing he wants to do in you right now.
https://escapetoreality.org/2014/09/25/how-the-holy-spirit-convicts/
How Does the Holy Spirit Convict Us?
Through the law,” says the mixed-grace preacher. “It is by God’s law that we are convicted. When you sin, the Holy Spirit will remind you of God’s holy commands and show you the way to go.”
The Bible says you are not under law, but grace. But if we get rid of the law, how will we know how to please the Lord? How will the Holy Spirit set us on the straight and narrow? Or to use a recent example I read on Charisma News, how will we know it’s a bad idea to steal from Walmart?
The mixed-grace preacher says the law shows us the way of life. Yet the hyper-grace preacher Paul said the law ministers death (2 Cor. 3:7). Something doesn’t add up.
The mixed-grace preacher describes the Holy Spirit as a Spirit of law, but the writer of Hebrews said he is the Spirit of grace (Heb 10:29). Again, something doesn’t add up.
I have heard people say they were convicted of sin while reading the law and that this caused them to run to God in repentance. These experiences testify to the true ministry of the law—it helps us recognize sin and our need for grace. But the law is not the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Grace does not minister to you through the law.
The ministry that brought death, … was engraved in letters on stone… If the ministry that condemns men is glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! (2 Cor 3:7-9)
Look into the mirror of the law and you will feel condemned, every time. That’s what the law does. It points out your faults and failings. But that is not what the Holy Spirit does. That is not the more glorious ministry that brings righteousness.
When you sin it takes no faith to look into the mirror of the law and agree that you made a mess. It takes faith to listen to the Holy Spirit and agree that in Christ you are as righteous and holy as he is! This is the good news that turns sinners into saints. This is the startling revelation that empowers you to go and sin no more.
How does the Spirit of grace convict us?
A law-conscious preacher will define conviction (elegcho in John 16:8) as fault-finding and rebuke. But an interpretation of conviction which is more consistent with the Holy Spirit’s gracious character is expose, or bring into the light. (More here.)
How does the Holy Spirit convict us? He does it by turning on the lights, not to shame you (Jesus carried your shame), but to show you the way to life. Ian Thomas describes it like this:
The Holy Spirit is like a man with a lamp entering a dark and dirty room, and what you have learned to live with in the dark becomes repugnant in the light.
Think of Saul on the road to Damascus (Acts 9:3). By his own account he was chief of sinners. Then the lights went on and he became a different man.
I have written elsewhere about the need for a new covenant definition of conviction, one that does not emphasize your badness but God’s goodness and grace.
But the simple fact is the Holy Spirit will never convict you of your sin. When you sin, your conscience may condemn you, the law will condemn you, the judge and jury may condemn you, the religious may condemn you, and the devil will certainly condemn you, but against the chorus of condemners stands the sweet Holy Spirit who defends you and draws you to grace.
The Holy Spirit’s conviction has nothing to do with your sin and everything to do with God’s grace. It’s not about the bad thing you’ve done but the good thing he wants to do in you right now.
https://escapetoreality.org/2014/09/25/how-the-holy-spirit-convicts/
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Sounds like a shell game Grace.
It's not condemning to point out sin....it's condemning to say you are going to be punished and are inherently bad.
Pointing out sin is convicting someone. The Holy Spirit DOES convict people.
Personally I find the preacher too sugar coated for my tastes and would wonder if he is offer me sugar coated dung...but since I don't know him and can't ask him to clarify, I would just avoid his sermons and website.
It's not condemning to point out sin....it's condemning to say you are going to be punished and are inherently bad.
Pointing out sin is convicting someone. The Holy Spirit DOES convict people.
Personally I find the preacher too sugar coated for my tastes and would wonder if he is offer me sugar coated dung...but since I don't know him and can't ask him to clarify, I would just avoid his sermons and website.
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The Holy Spirit is inside of us to reveal Jesus to us and what Jesus did for us in His finished work...and the Holy Spirit reveals the things of God..
Again - pay attention to the "you" in this verse as Jesus is talking to the believers.
John 16:13-15 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] "He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.[SUP]15 [/SUP] "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you.
1 Corinthians 2:12-16 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
Again - pay attention to the "you" in this verse as Jesus is talking to the believers.
John 16:13-15 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] "But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] "He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.[SUP]15 [/SUP] "All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you.
1 Corinthians 2:12-16 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
This is a vital part of it for me.
Because of what Christ has done, there is now no condemnation for me.
IF I had the fear of condemnation, I would not be able to come boldly to Him for the help I need.
I would be too busy trying to hide everything my heart does because of my fear instead of boldly admitting it to Him.
Even Adam said, I WAS AFRAID, so I hid.
Because of not having to fear the penalty of my sins (I did it lynn - I said "my"
) I am not afraid like Adam and I run TO God, not away from Him.
He can't help me when I hide, cover up, and run away. I have to walk in the truth about myself.
Because of what Christ has done, there is now no condemnation for me.
IF I had the fear of condemnation, I would not be able to come boldly to Him for the help I need.
I would be too busy trying to hide everything my heart does because of my fear instead of boldly admitting it to Him.
Even Adam said, I WAS AFRAID, so I hid.
Because of not having to fear the penalty of my sins (I did it lynn - I said "my"
) I am not afraid like Adam and I run TO God, not away from Him.He can't help me when I hide, cover up, and run away. I have to walk in the truth about myself.
so, if you are not walking in the Sprit 24-7-365, then you are not really saved. so, that puts your salvation on you. see how that works??
instead of worrying constantly about if your are doing enough good to be saved, try accepting that you are saved, and then do the good works that God prepared for you to do.
instead of worrying constantly about if your are doing enough good to be saved, try accepting that you are saved, and then do the good works that God prepared for you to do.
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This is a vital part of it for me.
Because of what Christ has done, there is now no condemnation for me.
IF I had the fear of condemnation, I would not be able to come boldly to Him for the help I need.
I would be too busy trying to hide everything my heart does because of my fear instead of boldly admitting it to Him.
Even Adam said, I WAS AFRAID, so I hid.
Because of not having to fear the penalty of my sins (I did it lynn - I said "my") I am not afraid like Adam and I run TO God, not away from Him.
He can't help me when I hide, cover up, and run away. I have to walk in the truth about myself.
Because of what Christ has done, there is now no condemnation for me.
IF I had the fear of condemnation, I would not be able to come boldly to Him for the help I need.
I would be too busy trying to hide everything my heart does because of my fear instead of boldly admitting it to Him.
Even Adam said, I WAS AFRAID, so I hid.
Because of not having to fear the penalty of my sins (I did it lynn - I said "my"
) I am not afraid like Adam and I run TO God, not away from Him.He can't help me when I hide, cover up, and run away. I have to walk in the truth about myself.
There is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. I know this goes against our religious traditions. There is a vast difference between believers and unbelievers.
Romans 8:1 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
It takes faith to declare what Jesus has done for us and that He has made us righteous in Him. The Holy Spirit reveals and reminds us of Jesus and what He has.
Romans 8:1 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
It takes faith to declare what Jesus has done for us and that He has made us righteous in Him. The Holy Spirit reveals and reminds us of Jesus and what He has.
This is a vital part of it for me.
Because of what Christ has done, there is now no condemnation for me.
IF I had the fear of condemnation, I would not be able to come boldly to Him for the help I need.
I would be too busy trying to hide everything my heart does because of my fear instead of boldly admitting it to Him.
Even Adam said, I WAS AFRAID, so I hid.
Because of not having to fear the penalty of my sins (I did it lynn - I said "my") I am not afraid like Adam and I run TO God, not away from Him.
He can't help me when I hide, cover up, and run away. I have to walk in the truth about myself.
Because of what Christ has done, there is now no condemnation for me.
IF I had the fear of condemnation, I would not be able to come boldly to Him for the help I need.
I would be too busy trying to hide everything my heart does because of my fear instead of boldly admitting it to Him.
Even Adam said, I WAS AFRAID, so I hid.
Because of not having to fear the penalty of my sins (I did it lynn - I said "my"
) I am not afraid like Adam and I run TO God, not away from Him.He can't help me when I hide, cover up, and run away. I have to walk in the truth about myself.
If we say that we do not have sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8