The Homosexual Threat

[iamsoandso]

here you are,,,this is you,,you are a spirit,,,,,that is "you are a bag of flesh?",,,,,,,close your eyes,,,say to your hand in your spirits mind,,,,"reach up and touch my nose",,,,,,and your flesh obeys the voice of your spirits lips,your finger points and in an instant it touches your nose.

now tell it with the spirits lips of you,,,,,"flesh,body of me,,get up and go eat food",,,,will it obey?,,,do you sit at the table and say "hand get the food and put it in mine mouth",,,,and your hand refuse and throw it over your head?,,,,let's trick your hand,,,,,,take a lighter,,,,say with the lips of your spirit "light the lighter and hold it under your other hand",,,,notice your bag of flesh obeys?????

the faithful servant(your flesh),,,notice it obeys it's master(your spirit),,,,,it is not clumsy,,,,tell it to steal,,,it will do what your spirits lips said it is a faithful servant,,,,tell it to commit adultery,,,it will do it. now how far will iamsoandso stray from the scripture you say with your spirits lips to have your hands type the thoughts into the keyboard?,,,,,,,well "who am i to judge another mans slave??????remember?????,,,Romans 14;4??????????

your spirits lips say move the covers and sit up,,,,your flesh your slave obeys,,,i cannot judge your flesh,it is a faithful servant. your spirits lips say,,,"get the pants and put the legs in them",,,and it obeys.,,,,,,turn on the stove and cook the breakfast and it obeys,,,,,,your spirit says to the fingers of the bag of flesh of you lock the door and the fingers on your faithful servant go straight to work turning the little things and manipulating the keys.,,,,i do not bicker about the servant of your flesh but the spirit in command of it "this is to whom i am speaking",,,,,,

there are two masters,,,,one saith,,,bag of flesh get up,,,and the servant obeys,,,shaking and dangling about,ever proceeding from birth to death as if a puppet on strings. and one says with the spirits lips,,,"puppet get up,,,steal,,and the puppet steals",,,,and another "puppet get up and commit adultery,,,and the puppet obeys",,,,one has his puppet get fat,,the other,a drunkard,,,"get the puppet drunk he says!",,,,another,the other,and all of them obeying the voice of the spirits lips of the puppet master,bound as slave to their god,,,,,

 

[iamsoandso]

here you are,,,this is you,,you are a spirit,,,,,that is "you are a bag of flesh?",,,,,,,close your eyes,,,say to your hand in your spirits mind,,,,"reach up and touch my nose",,,,,,and your flesh obeys the voice of your spirits lips,your finger points and in an instant it touches your nose.

now tell it with the spirits lips of you,,,,,"flesh,body of me,,get up and go eat food",,,,will it obey?,,,do you sit at the table and say "hand get the food and put it in mine mouth",,,,and your hand refuse and throw it over your head?,,,,let's trick your hand,,,,,,take a lighter,,,,say with the lips of your spirit "light the lighter and hold it under your other hand",,,,notice your bag of flesh obeys?????

the faithful servant(your flesh),,,notice it obeys it's master(your spirit),,,,,it is not clumsy,,,,tell it to steal,,,it will do what your spirits lips said it is a faithful servant,,,,tell it to commit adultery,,,it will do it. now how far will iamsoandso stray from the scripture you say with your spirits lips to have your hands type the thoughts into the keyboard?,,,,,,,well "who am i to judge another mans slave??????remember?????,,,Romans 14;4??????????

your spirits lips say move the covers and sit up,,,,your flesh your slave obeys,,,i cannot judge your flesh,it is a faithful servant. your spirits lips say,,,"get the pants and put the legs in them",,,and it obeys.,,,,,,turn on the stove and cook the breakfast and it obeys,,,,,,your spirit says to the fingers of the bag of flesh of you lock the door and the fingers on your faithful servant go straight to work turning the little things and manipulating the keys.,,,,i do not bicker about the servant of your flesh but the spirit in command of it "this is to whom i am speaking",,,,,,

there are two masters,,,,one saith,,,bag of flesh get up,,,and the servant obeys,,,shaking and dangling about,ever proceeding from birth to death as if a puppet on strings. and one says with the spirits lips,,,"puppet get up,,,steal,,and the puppet steals",,,,and another "puppet get up and commit adultery,,,and the puppet obeys",,,,one has his puppet get fat,,the other,a drunkard,,,"get the puppet drunk he says!",,,,another,the other,and all of them obeying the voice of the spirits lips of the puppet master,bound as slave to their god,,,,,

 

[iamsoandso]

the other?????,,,the spirit,,,,that say's to the bag of flesh,,,,,,"get up,take the hand and the heart of your spirit,and with your spirits lip say to the flesh,love",,,,,and the puppet,the bag of flesh,the servant then obeys,,,,here is the other,,,,,,,

get up puppet,,,,love,,,do not lie,,,,say my name,,,,,

it's the dividing of the puppets,,,,,

 

[Phillipy]

So, I take it by this that you regard homosexuality as a moral positive.

I'd call it amoral, morally neutral, in all situations where it doesn't harm anybody. (and the only harms of homosexuality I can think of are equally harms of straight sexuality, i.e. prison gay rape isn't a gay problem but a rape problem)

 

[joeyruready]

Now there's an interesting choice. Fellowship with a "hypocritical" Christian or an "unabashed" sodomite. What concord hath Christ with Belial?

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Well no one was actually talking about fellowship. But since you chose to bring this up:

Matthew 9:[SUP]10 [/SUP]While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples. [SUP]11 [/SUP]When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”
[SUP]12 [/SUP]On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick.

 

[Elizabeth619]

wow, I watched the clip you gave and wondered just how could this young man lie on national TV about his parents, why don't you call him out by posting in the comments of that clip? there must be more people that know him and his family, why don't all call him out?...or are they?...

His brother denied the allegations and has been trying to contact NBC, and other sources. People in town that know the actual situation have made comments about his lies.

People do lie on TV all the time. America's Got Talent doesn't do a big background check on its contestants. Another contestant recently made a public apology for lying and saying he was injured in war. People lie to gain pity. It's sad but it does happen on national television too

 

[GRA]

OK. that was just NASTY.

And SODOMY is NOT????????????

 

[jinx]

And SODOMY is NOT????????????

of course it's nasty!!! ewwe

 

[haz]

no, it's a legitimate question when the direction of the convo is moral relativity.

not to mention bestiality is on the docket for legalization, and protection as special minorities for the animal-sex-perverts.
don't believe it?

study the Frankfurt School.
it's on their list of demoralizing methods....of the "West".
they're beta-testing it now to see what we will accept.
since our society is already so debased, apparently there's nothing some won't tolerate.

I read from a study on Homosexuality that one of their practices can be to drop a small live rodent/gerbil (with nails clipped to avoid any tearing of rectal wall) up their bottom. Of course the poor rodent is struggling to try to escape such a dark scarey and suffocating place, whilst the homosexual derives some deviant pleasure from this act of cruelty.

Also when there are large events such as gay mardi-gras or gay olympics etc, it results in an epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases within the city hosting such events, as homosexuals are so sexually promiscuous. Sadly, the PC media say nothing about such epidemics as it will hinder the homosexual cause. And anyone who dares to make an issue about this through the media is quickly silenced by an overwhelming attack from homosexuals and their supporters, with the support of the PC mainstream media.

 

[4enlightment]

And SODOMY is NOT????????????

A lot of hederalsexual couples perform that act, especially orally. God doesn't sneak a peek at you while having sex to see if you are doing it right; and so we shouldn't be uncovering someones else nakedness. God didn't even see Cain's shame; but the only thing that He had heard was Abel's blood crying out. So going in that area the door should remain close.

 

[damombomb]

It is cruel not to warn them of their sin
Ezekiel3:18When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

 

[4enlightment]

It is cruel not to warn them of their sin
Ezekiel3:18When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

I believe people should first teach the entire scriptures to all instead of singling out certain verses that pertain to a single person offense; and when a person has come up to a verse that is pertaining to someone offense, they should let them know that the offense wasn't what God had in mind for the natural man to practice, and that should be all that a person should say, but don't be rubbing it in their faces and telling them that they is going to burn forever. When someone express it like that, sound if that person has a lot of hatred built inside of them. You should treat it as if you are speaking to someone that is a newly born baby, instead of treating the person as if they were someone that had kick your dog. But still a person doesn't know how God is going to decide on each individual.

 

[Grey]

There's a big difference between two humans and an animal and a human. Stay on subject here.

 

[oldhermit]

I'd call it amoral, morally neutral, in all situations where it doesn't harm anybody. (and the only harms of homosexuality I can think of are equally harms of straight sexuality, i.e. prison gay rape isn't a gay problem but a rape problem)

So, I suppose the question then is who has the right to establish the standard of motrality. Or, do you believe such a standard exists?

 

[MaranathaSoonQuick]

Experimenting with PS and .TTF(s). and this is for you:

 

[SarahM777]

Where did the WBC come
In on this? If you think for a single moment that his parents are like those of the WBC or we attend a church like that you're highly mistaken.

Sorry Elizabeth,

My bad, I quoted the wrong quote. (It wasn't suppose to be directed to you).

Not all churches are like the WBC,but trying to speak to LGBT's it is one of the hardest things to have to talk to them about. Many have been the brunt of that type of thing,and often it does come across as if there is no hope for them at all.

On the one hand you do have those that will lie about what really happened in their lives to justify themselves. IE the young man you were referring to. On the other hand you will have those that have been through far more then the average person and this is the final acting out of that. The thing is they all to need to hear about Jesus,the same Jesus that spread out His hands for us and took the nails for us. He died for them too. Too often they are hit over the head with a two by four,when often times showing the same type of compassion that Jesus showed to the woman caught in adultery works much better.

If it wasn't for the media over hyping the "Gay Pride" events,most would never even hear about them. The crowd was so small for the three day event in Milwaukee that the Milwaukee Bucks would draw more people in one game at the Bradley Center then the crowd that showed up at the three day event. Add to the fact that most do not even realized they are being used to push an agenda,it's vocal minority within it that is pushing these things.

We need to remember that they too are made in the image of God. They are broken,fallen and in just as much bondage as any one else. Jesus came to rescue them too. And we can NOT leave out that Jesus did tell us there is NO sin under heaven and earth that can not be forgiven outside of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

 

[SarahM777]

The ironic part is how so many can so quickly throw stones yet,many have seen the falseness of the so called "good upstanding" Christians who are OK because they only do the socially acceptable sins. They see the ones that the church will wrap their arms around because the person is struggling with a sin. The guy that is shacking up with his live in girl friend,the business man that fudges on his taxes,(Never mind that it's lying and stealing),the teenage girls in the back back gossiping,or the 350 lb woman that during a church social is stuffing her face,etc etc (By the way all sins that the Bible lists as sins that God hates) It's very strange that often many preachers will never ever speak on those things. Yet every single one of those will condemn someone just as quickly.

 

[sonjohn]

the visible church is filled with tares
i hate it when i hear someone say that Christians bash folk.
tares do what tares do...and it sure isnt to make the Christian body look good.
i think its a ploy to make true Christians go into the closet, over every issue

Excellent!

 

[thecreationtutor]

when 60% of men in church are looking at Pornography we don't have much to stand on

 

[homwardbound]

What I'm saying is...
We don't stop telling the truth because we are not perfect.
Anyone can lambast us, the pharisees did it to the sinless one, how much more us.

Wouldn't it make pure sense that we our unredeemed flesh gets out of the way, and asks God to lead by the Holy Ghost, and did not Christ say he did or said nothing without the lead of Father through the Holy Ghost, and has not christ poured out onto all flesh this same Holy Ghost, was this for us to percieve and lead or for us to become 100% dependant on God's lead through us? I know that in my flesh dwelleth no good thing,and am by God trhrough the resurrected Christ am made new alive in the Spirit of God anyone else?