The Importance of Rightly Dividing the word of Truth

ChosenbyHim · Nov 12, 2013

LT said:

Well LT, Jesus does come in the clouds to catch His Bride away to meet Him in the air (1 Thess. 4:16-18).

At the catching away of the body of Christ, He will only be seen by His saints (born again Christians). Every eye is not going to see Him at the Rapture. But every eye will see Him at the Second Coming (Rev. 1:7).

The Rapture is described by Paul as a mystery:

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. - 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 (King James Bible)

This passage correlates with Philippians 3:20-21:

20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. - Philippians 3:20-21 (King James Bible)

You see, at the Rapture, we get our gloried body.

And then we all appear before the Judgment Seat of Christ (1 Cor. 3:8-15, 2 Corinthians 5:9-10, Romans 14:10-12).

Here is further proof that the body of Christ is in Heaven during the time of Jacob's trouble:

19 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.
4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.
5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. - Revelation 19:1-21 (King James Bible)

This passage in Revelation 19 shows that the wife of the Lamb (body of Christ) is in Heaven (Rev. 19:7-9) during the time of Jacob's trouble (Daniel's 70th week). It is very clear LT.

Then afterward, Heaven opens up and the Lord Jesus Christ comes down to the Earth and we the body of Christ [the armies of heaven that are clothed in fine linen, white and clean (Rev. 19:14)] follow Him upon white horses.

LT said:

The very phrase: "coming in the clouds" appears 4 times in the Authorized Version. The first two occurrences of this phrase are found in Matt. 24:30 and Matt. 26:64 and the last two occurrences of this very phrase appear in Mark 13:26, and Mark 14:62.

And all four of those passages of Scripture are referencing the Second Advent of Jesus Christ. And they correlate with Revelation 1:7:

7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. - Revelation 1:7 (King James Bible)

And Rev. 1:7 is also a reference to the Second Coming and Advent of the Lord Jesus Christ.

The Rapture is described as a mystery. It is a separate event from the Second Advent of Jesus Christ.

At the Rapture, only we (the body of Christ) see Him.

But at the Second Advent, every eye will see Him.

LT said:

I already did in the Original Post LT.

The antichrist did not appear in 70AD.

The mark of the beast was not around in 70AD.

The 70th week of Daniel is the time of Jacob's trouble.

The church will not go through the time of Jacob's trouble because 2 Thess. 2:7 teaches that the body of Christ has to be taken away first, before the man of sin (that Wicked) can be revealed.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. - 2 Thessalonians 2:7-10 (King James Bible)

homwardbound · Nov 13, 2013

LT said:

It was by Faith in the coming Messiah, in the first Testament the Holy Spirit did not live in them, and God visited the ones God Chose to be Prophets to tell the others what he wanted of them.
Today he has spoken to us by his son Jesus (Heb:1) our propitiation for all sin the death at the cross for us, no more God speaks to me to tell you, rather God through Christ has redeemed you in Spirit not flesh so you and God can have a one on one relationship, God the Holy Spirit living in us, which today is the only way God is worshipped in Spirit and truth, for all sin is condemned to flesh Romans 8:3, and Spirit and truth in John 4:23-24
Thanks and I appreciate you LT

homwardbound · Nov 13, 2013

zone said:

Sorry you do not see that there is only one Baptism that saves and that is the Holy Ghost Baptism with fire, that came to us at Pentecost, to all that God has Mercy on, God gives this to, praying God has this Mercy on you, since you do not believe that this Baptism is no longer taking place.
Water Baptism John's does not save nor is incorporated into one, It is a good conscience towards God to be water Baptized not for show and tell, as in becoming a member of any Church as is what it is used for today. Man flesh going to town, and doing this and that Showing one face to the crowds and the other behind closed doors to self, eventually praying those that do as I did, will come to terms as to wondering which face is true? And thus seek God out and above every praise and showmanship out here in this world, Get to know God personally, as this is who God is having Mercy and showing them truth that sets them free.
For no mathematical formula of or from anyone will ever do to get to Father.
Thanks Zone, all in prayer for you and me and all that read here.

Jesus through the cross, the way, the truth and the new life found in the resurrection no other way to Father Sister.

ChosenbyHim · Nov 13, 2013

zone said:

Zone, a lot of times, the truth has to be repeated.

zone said:

The time of Jacob's trouble is long over???

So let me get this straight Zone, you believe that the beast (antichrist) showed up in 70A.D.??? Is that what you are insinuating?

Do you really believe that the mark of the beast was around during 70A.D.???

zone said:

Well Zone; again, today in this Dispensation of Grace, right now God makes no distinctions between the Jews or Gentiles. If a Jew gets saved, he is becomes a Christian. If a Gentile gets saved, he becomes a Christian.

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. - Galatians 3:28-29 (King James Bible)

10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. - Colossians 3:10-11 (King James Bible)

But in the time of Jacob's trouble, there will be a distinction. In Daniel's 70th week, there will be a two distinct bodies. There will be a distinction between the Jews and the Gentiles.

7 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. - Revelation 7:1-17 (King James Bible)

In Revelation 7:4-8; we see the twelve tribes of the Children of Israel which are sealed (that's one body). And then in verses 9-17, we read the description of the Gentile Nations of the Tribulation saints and martyrs which made it out of the Great Tribulation (this is the second body).

Right now in the Church Age, there is only one Body (the Body of Christ). Christians are one Body.

But in the next Dispensation; the time of Jacob's trouble, there will be two distinct bodies: Jews (the 144,000) and Gentiles. The Jews and the Gentiles are distinctly separate from each other in the time of Jacob's trouble.

And in the time of Jacob's trouble; God will be dealing directly with the Jews, with the Nation of Israel. That is why you have Moses and Elijah (the two witnesses) coming back to confirm the the New Testament with Signs. Why? because the Jews require a Sign (1 Cor. 1:22). It's all there Zone.

The time of Jacob's trouble is for Israel. It is not for the Church.

You need to learn the Dispensations Zone. It is as simple as that.

zone said:

Again, in the time of Jacob's trouble, the tribes of the Children of Israel come back.

1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing. - James 1:1-4 (King James Bible)

zone · Nov 13, 2013

“What is indisputably, absolutely, and uncompromisingly essential to the Christian religion is its doctrine of salvation… If Dispensationalism has actually departed from the only way of salvation which the Christian religion teaches, then we must say it has departed from Christianity. No matter how many other important truths it proclaims, it cannot be called Christian if it empties Christianity of its essential message. We define a cult as a religion which claims to be Christian while emptying Christianity of that which is essential to it. If Dispensationalism does this, then Dispensationalism is a cult and not a branch of the Christian church. It is as serious as that. It is impossible to exaggerate the gravity of the situation.”

- John H. Gerstner Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth: A Critique of Dispensationalism

ChosenbyHim · Nov 13, 2013

zone said:

The spirit behind anti-dispensationalism

[video=youtube;IZam8AELqVM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZam8AELqVM[/video]

Published on Mar 22, 2013
This is a video explaining that there is a anti-semitic, Satanic spirit that underlies the attack on dispensational theology. It is an attempt to ignore the reality that God is not done with Israel and unbelieving Jews are still beloved by God.
Today, an unbelieving Jews must receive the Gospel of grace to be saved.
He then becomes a Christian if he believes.
When the Church is removed, the dispensation returns to a Jewish one, and God will complete the unconditional promises made to Abraham and David.
The Millennium will be a Jewish Kingdom, led by a Jewish King, with Headquarters in the Jewish State, with a Temple that all Gentiles will be forced to come to and worship under the threat of severe discipline.
These are dispensational truths that are denied by those who simply cannot stand that the Jew is a special People, because God chose them.

zone · Nov 13, 2013

ChosenbyHim said:

18. What is Dispensationalism?

Dispensationalism is a relatively modern hermeneutic, or way of interpreting the scriptures, that has roots in the teachings of John Darby, was greatly popularized by C. I. Scofield, through the notes in his study bible, became influential through the establishment of Dallas Theological Seminary and many of its professors, including Lewis Sperry Chafer and Charles Ryrie, and has been greatly sensationalized and made influential at a popular level through the fiction and dramatic predictions and interpretations of authors such as Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHaye. Today, Dispensationalism is hugely influential worldwide, having a significant impact not just on the doctrine of the Church, but even on global politics, as the Dispensationally-driven Christian Zionist movement, championed by such men as John Hagee, has largely shaped America's Middle Eastern policies for many years.

Dispensationalism is by no means a monolithic school of thought, and ranges from some very extreme errors on the far right, such as the teaching that modern orthodox Jews who reject Christ may still be saved through the Torah, to the much more conservative and scholarly beliefs of the Progressive Dispensationalists such as Craig Blaising and Darrel Bock; but in essence, it may be summed up as the method of interpreting the scriptures which sees two distinct peoples of God, with two distinct destinies: Israel and the Church. The most common form of classic (sometimes called “revised”)

Dispensationalism adheres to the following points of belief:

cont

zone · Nov 13, 2013

ChosenbyHim said:

ANTI-SEMITISM AND DISPENSATIONALISM

20 Jul, 2011
by Kenneth L. Gentry, Jr., Th.D., Director, NiceneCouncil.com

Dispensationalists have a strong commitment to Israel at all costs. Their commitment to Israel is so all-controlling that they even posit a millennial age in which Israel will dominate all other nations — reducing even to the lowest level those nations committed to Christ during that time. Herman Hoyt, past president of Grace Theological Seminary writes:

“The redeemed living nation of Israel, regenerated and regathered to the land will be head over all the nations of the earth. . . . So he exalts them above the Gentile nations. . . . On the lowest level there are the saved, living, Gentile nations.” (Herman Hoyt, “Dispensational Premillennialism,” in Robert G. Clouse, The Meaning of the Millennium: Four Views [Downer’s Grove, Ill: Inter-varsity Press, 1977], 81).

This is, of course, a form of racism (race determines priority) and even could be described as “anti-Gentilism” (race determines exclusion).

Yet, they deem as anti-Semitic any eschatological view that applies Israel’s covenant promises to the church and sees the church as the final phase in God’s redemptive dealings with man. Hal Lindsey even wrote a whole book on the subject titled, The Road to Holocaust. In their view non-dispensational theology is not only biblically deficient but morally corrupt.

For instance, Tim LaHaye associate, Thomas Ice, has written that “historically replacement theology (the church replaces the Jews as the new or true Israel, and Israel has no future as a distinct nation within God’s plan) has been the theological foundation upon which anti-Semitism has been built within the confines of Christianity. (Ice, “Hal Lindsey, Dominion Theology, and Anti-Semitism,” Biblical Perspectives, 5:1 [Jan.-Feb., 1992], p. 2).

Their moral charges against non-dispensational theological systems fail miserably for two significant reasons (among several dozen more):

First, dispensationalism inadvertently involves the New Testament itself in anti-Semitism. How so?

They frequently cite the standard academic works on anti-Semitism that link “replacement theology,” “supersessionism,” or “church fulfillment theology” with this sinful form of racism in history. Sadly, they do not carefully read those academic works which they so excitedly quote. These book invariably trace anti-Semitism back to the New Testament itself! We see this in the following titles of books and academic articles:

• Gregory Baum, Is the New Testament Anti-Semitic? A Re-examination of the New Testament. Rev. ed. Glen Rock, N.J.: Deus, 1965.
• Norman A. Beck, Mature Christianity in the 21st Century: The Recognition and Repudiation of the Anti-Jewish Polemic of the New Testament (Rev. ed.: New York: Crossroad, 1994).
• John Dominic Crossan, Who Killed Jesus? Exposing the Roots of Anti -Semitism in the Gospel Story (San Francisco: HarperSanFrancisco, 1995).
• Dan Cohn-Sherbok, The Crucified Jew: Twenty Centuries of Anti-Semitism (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1992).
• T. A. Burkill, “Anti-Semitism in St. Mark’s Gospel,” New Testament 3 (1959): 34–52.
• W. R. Farmer, Anti-Judaism and the Gospels (Harrisburg, Penn.: Trinity, 1999).
• Riemund Bieringer, Didier Pollefeyt, and Frederique Vandecasteele, eds., Anti–Judaism and the Fourth Gospel (Louisville, Kent.: Westminster John Knox, 2001).
• L. T. Johnson, “The New Testament’s Anti-Jewish Slander and the Conventions of Ancient Polemic,” Journal of Biblical Literature 108 (1989): 419–41.
• R. R. Ruether, Is the New Testament AntiSemitic? (2d. ed.: Glen Rock: N. J.: Paulist, 1965).

Such works argue that Christianity’s claim that Christ is the only way of salvation – and even that he is the Jewish Messiah, are anti-Semitic and must be removed from Scripture!

Second, to make matters worse: dispensationalism ends up encouraging current-day actions that will (they admit!) lead to a wholesale slaughter of the Jews. What do I mean?.......

- See more at: Anti-Semitism and Dispensationalism | Against Dispensationalism

zone · Nov 13, 2013

Dispensationalism adheres to the following points of belief:

1.The Church is not the continuation of God's Old Testament people, but a distinct body born on the Day of Pentecost.

2.The Church is never equated with Israel in the New Testament, and Christians are not Jews, true Israel, etc.

3.The prophecies made to Israel in the Old Testament are not being fulfilled in the Church, nor will they ever be.

4.The Church does not participate in the New Covenant prophesied in the Old Testament; it is for ethnic Israel, and will be established in a future millennial kingdom.

5.The Old Testament saints were saved by faith alone, on the basis of the Calvary-work of Christ alone; however, the object of their faith was not Christ, but rather the revelation peculiar to their dispensation.

6.The Old Testament saints did not know of the coming “Church Age,” of the resurrection of Christ, or basically, of what we today call the gospel.

7.When Jesus came to earth, he offered the Jews a physical kingdom, but they rejected him.

8.When Jesus proclaimed “the gospel of the Kingdom,” it was the news about how ethnic Jews might enter and find rewards in this physical kingdom, and is to be distinguished from the gospel as defined in I Corinthians 15:3-4, which the apostles later proclaimed to the church.

9.After the Jews rejected Jesus' kingdom offer, he inaugurated a parenthetical “Church Age,” which will be concluded immediately before God again takes up his dealings with his national people, ethnic Israel.

10.During the “Church Age,” Jesus is not reigning from the throne of David; he is engaged instead in his priestly work, and his kingly work will take place in the future millennial kingdom.

11.At some unspecified but imminent time, Jesus will return (but not all the way to earth, just to the air) and rapture his Church, also called his Bride; for the following seven years, they will feast with him at the marriage supper of the Lamb; meanwhile, on earth, he will begin to deal with his national people, ethnic Israel, again, calling them to himself and preserving them in the midst of seven years of great tribulation; at the midpoint of which, the Antichrist will set himself up as god in the rebuilt Jewish temple, and demand worship from the world.

12.After these seven years, Christ will return, this time all the way to earth. He will defeat the forces of evil, bind Satan and cast him into a pit, and inaugurate the physical Jewish Kingdom that he had offered during his life on earth. The Jews who survived the tribulation will populate the earth during this blessed golden era, and the Christians will reign spiritually, in glorified bodies.

13.After these thousand years, Satan will be released and will gather an army from the offspring of the Jews who survived the tribulation. He will be finally defeated and cast into hell. At this time, the wicked dead will be resurrected and judged, whereas the righteous dead had already been resurrected one-thousand-seven years previously, at the rapture. Christ will then usher in the New Heavens and New Earth, and the destinies of all mankind will be finalized. Dispensationalists are divided as to whether or not there will remain a distinction between Christians and Jews in the New Earth.

What is Dispensationalism?

ChosenbyHim · Nov 13, 2013

zone said:

ANTI-SEMITISM AND DISPENSATIONALISM

20 Jul, 2011
by Kenneth L. Gentry, Jr., Th.D., Director, NiceneCouncil.com

Dispensationalists have a strong commitment to Israel at all costs. Their commitment to Israel is so all-controlling that they even posit a millennial age in which Israel will dominate all other nations — reducing even to the lowest level those nations committed to Christ during that time. Herman Hoyt, past president of Grace Theological Seminary writes:

“The redeemed living nation of Israel, regenerated and regathered to the land will be head over all the nations of the earth. . . . So he exalts them above the Gentile nations. . . . On the lowest level there are the saved, living, Gentile nations.” (Herman Hoyt, “Dispensational Premillennialism,” in Robert G. Clouse, The Meaning of the Millennium: Four Views [Downer’s Grove, Ill: Inter-varsity Press, 1977], 81).

This is, of course, a form of racism (race determines priority) and even could be described as “anti-Gentilism” (race determines exclusion).

Yet, they deem as anti-Semitic any eschatological view that applies Israel’s covenant promises to the church and sees the church as the final phase in God’s redemptive dealings with man. Hal Lindsey even wrote a whole book on the subject titled, The Road to Holocaust. In their view non-dispensational theology is not only biblically deficient but morally corrupt.

For instance, Tim LaHaye associate, Thomas Ice, has written that “historically replacement theology (the church replaces the Jews as the new or true Israel, and Israel has no future as a distinct nation within God’s plan) has been the theological foundation upon which anti-Semitism has been built within the confines of Christianity. (Ice, “Hal Lindsey, Dominion Theology, and Anti-Semitism,” Biblical Perspectives, 5:1 [Jan.-Feb., 1992], p. 2).

Their moral charges against non-dispensational theological systems fail miserably for two significant reasons (among several dozen more):

First, dispensationalism inadvertently involves the New Testament itself in anti-Semitism. How so?

They frequently cite the standard academic works on anti-Semitism that link “replacement theology,” “supersessionism,” or “church fulfillment theology” with this sinful form of racism in history. Sadly, they do not carefully read those academic works which they so excitedly quote. These book invariably trace anti-Semitism back to the New Testament itself! We see this in the following titles of books and academic articles:

• Gregory Baum, Is the New Testament Anti-Semitic? A Re-examination of the New Testament. Rev. ed. Glen Rock, N.J.: Deus, 1965.
• Norman A. Beck, Mature Christianity in the 21st Century: The Recognition and Repudiation of the Anti-Jewish Polemic of the New Testament (Rev. ed.: New York: Crossroad, 1994).
• John Dominic Crossan, Who Killed Jesus? Exposing the Roots of Anti -Semitism in the Gospel Story (San Francisco: HarperSanFrancisco, 1995).
• Dan Cohn-Sherbok, The Crucified Jew: Twenty Centuries of Anti-Semitism (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1992).
• T. A. Burkill, “Anti-Semitism in St. Mark’s Gospel,” New Testament 3 (1959): 34–52.
• W. R. Farmer, Anti-Judaism and the Gospels (Harrisburg, Penn.: Trinity, 1999).
• Riemund Bieringer, Didier Pollefeyt, and Frederique Vandecasteele, eds., Anti–Judaism and the Fourth Gospel (Louisville, Kent.: Westminster John Knox, 2001).
• L. T. Johnson, “The New Testament’s Anti-Jewish Slander and the Conventions of Ancient Polemic,” Journal of Biblical Literature 108 (1989): 419–41.
• R. R. Ruether, Is the New Testament AntiSemitic? (2d. ed.: Glen Rock: N. J.: Paulist, 1965).

Such works argue that Christianity’s claim that Christ is the only way of salvation – and even that he is the Jewish Messiah, are anti-Semitic and must be removed from Scripture!

Second, to make matters worse: dispensationalism ends up encouraging current-day actions that will (they admit!) lead to a wholesale slaughter of the Jews. What do I mean?.......

- See more at: Anti-Semitism and Dispensationalism | Against Dispensationalism

Only Dispensationalism teaches God's Plan for mankind

[video=youtube;ERc_K-DnphQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERc_K-DnphQ[/video]

Published on Apr 14, 2013
This is a video explaining how only dispensationalist theology understands God's Plan for mankind.
It is the dispensationalists, who, by 'rightly dividing' understand the different aspects of God's plan and how the Gentile, Jew and Church fit into that Plan.
Any other teaching that rejects the essential aspect of Dispensatonalism,( that the Church and Israel are distinct entities with different roles in God's Plan) has 'wrongly divided' the word of God.

zone · Nov 13, 2013

ChosenbyHim said:

this is pathetic.
it really is.

outta here.

zone · Nov 13, 2013

zone said:

“What is indisputably, absolutely, and uncompromisingly essential to the Christian religion is its doctrine of salvation… If Dispensationalism has actually departed from the only way of salvation which the Christian religion teaches, then we must say it has departed from Christianity. No matter how many other important truths it proclaims, it cannot be called Christian if it empties Christianity of its essential message. We define a cult as a religion which claims to be Christian while emptying Christianity of that which is essential to it. If Dispensationalism does this, then Dispensationalism is a cult and not a branch of the Christian church. It is as serious as that. It is impossible to exaggerate the gravity of the situation.”

- John H. Gerstner Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth: A Critique of Dispensationalism

look this over really carefully Chosen.
you have some other gospel, and some other christ.

on ignore. done.

BradC · Nov 13, 2013

zone said:

It is pathetic to you and all those that have the same wrong premise that you use to interpret the written word. Gerstner has no idea what dispensational truth is all about and neither do you Zone, so stop pretending you do. You have a storehouse of information with the wrong premise and frame of reference and it causes you with your prejudice to come to the wrong conclusion quite often, just like Gerstner has.

zone · Nov 13, 2013

BradC said:

It is pathetic to you and all those that have the same wrong premise that you use to interpret the written word. Gerstner has no idea what dispensational truth is all about and neither do you Zone, so stop pretending you do. You have a storehouse of information with the wrong premise and frame of reference and it causes you with your prejudice to come to the wrong conclusion quite often, just like Gerstner has.

permanently on ignore.

BradC · Nov 13, 2013

zone said:

He should say exactly what he means and stop using the word 'if'. I am dispensational but not like you think and I could walk circles around you when it comes to the finished work and positional truth. That is a boast in the Lord and in the cross and not in some denominational doctrine of baptismal regeneration that you adhere to. You heretic, repent Zone of your false doctrine and false gospel. I wonder how many times you have told me and many others exactly the same thing and you get away with it every single time. No censure for you. Your tongue causes you to grieve the Spirit over and over and we are suppose just take it. In many ways you are a phony because you chide and admonish others and never follow your own advice. Do you think you are an example of a Spirit filled believer that is led of the Spirit and one who takes up their cross and denies self?

BradC · Nov 13, 2013

Zone puts people on ignore because she can't take the heat and her friends are afraid to rebuke her when she is absolutely wrong or in grave error.

SarahM777 · Nov 14, 2013

BradC said:

Brad,Can you please explain why then if you go by the people who are against Zone will rarely speak against the errors of each other,but yet almost all will combine forces to stand against her? Why is that Brad? Can you explain that oddity? Should that even be?

zone · Nov 14, 2013

SarahM777 said:

eh sarah...no matter.
somebody thinks its about not being able to take "the heat".

more like years of discussing the mystery church age gap lunacy with the same person is just so boring.
some strongholds apparently aren't coming down (for some people).

but anyways....

SarahM777 · Nov 14, 2013

zone said:

Not surprised by it one bit at all. It just bodes the question What is at the root of those banding together? Shouldn't that tell one there may just be a bit of a problem or am I imagining things?

zone · Nov 14, 2013

SarahM777 said:

Wa - A Shirley Don't Know Whatchu Mean, Saraahhhh Dawling

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