The Letter to the Romans...

[Elin]

And you are also confusing the salutations of Paul's letters
with the doctrinal instruction of Paul's letters.

Interresting, You know more about how to write God's word than God does.
You are telling God! that the material YOU put in the intro of YOUR book can not be doctrinal.

That's some serious ignorance of the historical facts shown in Paul's letters.

Examine them.

They all begin with a salutation
identifying the writer, in whatever way he chooses, and
identifying the recipients, in whatever way he chooses.

Not unlike the headings on e-mails from a personal account with a browser.
To: Joe Bloe
From: Moe Bloe

The salutations are not the body of Paul's letters, anymore than the headings on e-mails
are the body of the e-mail.

The body of Paul's letter to the Romans doesn't begin until 1:8, after the salutation,
and the doctrinal instruction and theme of the entire book doesn't begin until 1:16-17.

You don't read much of Paul, do you?

 

[Yahshua]

(Returning to Abraham as the example of the faith that both "law followers" and "the faithful" are to have to be considered his offspring and inheritors of his promise [Post #193]), Paul explains how faith is full, unwavering conviction; pointing out how Abraham's circumstances actually proved *the opposite* of God's promise to him (that he would NOT be the father of many nations)...but Abraham would not waver in his belief that God was able to honor his promise. Thus Abraham's faith was counted to him as righteousness.

Romans 4:23-25

But the words “it was counted to him” were not written for his sake alone, but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord, who {*was delivered up for our trespasses*} and {*raised for our justification*}.​

What Paul's Saying...

(Still in context to faith counting as righteousness [“calling those things that are not as though they were”]), Paul says righteousness also will be counted to the believer in God; God who raised Christ from the dead, The Messiah who:

1) Died for our sins, and...

2) Was resurrected for our justification.


INTERESTING NOTE: Do you see how the end of this passage splits between two purposes – “...for our trespasses/sins” and “...for our justification”? If we carefully follow Paul’s grammar here, Christ's death did not justify believers. Christ death paid for the believer’s sins...but after that...Christ was resurrected back to life to justify believer’s. In other words, we weren't justified at the cross...we are justified at the resurrection, with our resurrected High Priest ministering/covering us with his blood he shed at the cross. If God did not resurrect Christ, we would not be justified even if he still went to the cross.


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[Yahshua]

(Still in context to faith counting as righteousness [“calling those things that are not as though they were”]), Paul says righteousness also will be counted to the believer in God; God who raised Christ from the dead, The Messiah who:

1) Died for our sins, and...

2) Was resurrected for our justification.


INTERESTING NOTE: Do you see how the end of this passage splits between two purposes – “...for our trespasses/sins” and “...for our justification”? If we carefully follow Paul’s grammar here, Christ's death did not justify believers. Christ death paid for the believer’s sins...but after that...Christ was resurrected back to life to justify believer’s. In other words, we weren't justified at the cross...we are justified at the resurrection, with our resurrected High Priest ministering/covering us with his blood he shed at the cross. If God did not resurrect Christ, we would not be justified even if he still went to the cross.

Romans 5:1

Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.​

What Paul's Saying...

“Therefore” means Paul is concluding a point based on previous points in context. He’s not making an independent statement without the foundation he’s established, so we must reference previous Posts:

1. Having faith is “full, unwavering conviction of a truth not yet realized” (Post #193), that is contrary to one’s present circumstance (Post #210); faith like Abraham.

2. Such faith is counted as righteousness (Post #42); faith which is confirmed/proved from one’s action as the evidence/fruit of it (Post #178)

3. Through that faith, one receives the gift of justification (Post #177 & #186).

4. Justification is our resurrected High Priest ministering with his blood inside the temple (i.e. “covering the furnishings”); a process of covering the believer with his life.

Therefore...Paul is saying since they (having the faith of Abraham) “have been justified”, they can have peace with God through Christ.

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IMPORTANT: I purposely typed “they” (and not “we”) because Paul was talking about he and the believers in Rome. Having faith (especially faith on the level of Abraham’s) is between you and God. Only *you* can know for sure if you have such faith because it’s your “walk of faithfulness”. It’s not automatically true for you simply because I or someone else says it.

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[Yahshua]

“Therefore” means Paul is concluding a point based on previous points in context. He’s not making an independent statement without the foundation he’s established, so we must reference previous Posts:

1. Having faith is “full, unwavering conviction of a truth not yet realized” (Post #193), that is contrary to one’s present circumstance (Post #210); faith like Abraham.

2. Such faith is counted as righteousness (Post #42); faith which is confirmed/proved from one’s action as the evidence/fruit of it (Post #178)

3. Through that faith, one receives the gift of justification (Post #177 & #186).

4. Justification is our resurrected High Priest ministering with his blood inside the temple (i.e. “covering the furnishings”); a process of covering the believer with his life.

Therefore...Paul is saying since they (having the faith of Abraham) “have been justified”, they can have peace with God through Christ.

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IMPORTANT: I purposely typed “they” (and not “we”) because Paul was talking about he and the believers in Rome. Having faith (especially faith on the level of Abraham’s) is between you and God. Only *you* can know for sure if you have such faith because it’s your “walk of faithfulness”. It’s not automatically true for you simply because I or someone else says it.

Romans 5:2

Through him we have also obtained access {by faith} into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.​

What Paul's Saying...

(Following the context) In addition to Justification (Post #223), Paul says the believer *also* gets Grace for the *hope* of the glory of God:

- Grace is the Power of Salvation from Christ (post #5) purchased by his blood (Post #36).

- The Glory of God is the goal of that Grace...so Paul says they rejoice in the hope of it.


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[Yahshua]

(Following the context) In addition to Justification (Post #223), Paul says the believer *also* gets Grace for the *hope* of the glory of God:

- Grace is the Power of Salvation from Christ (post #5) purchased by his blood (Post #36).

- The Glory of God is the goal of that Grace...so Paul says they rejoice in the hope of it.

Romans 5:3-5

Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.​

What Paul's Saying...

(Following context) Paul says they also rejoice in the struggle that builds up character & that hope, because God’s love is in them.

 

[Yahshua]

(Following context) Paul says they also rejoice in the struggle that builds up character & that hope, because God’s love is in them.

Romans 5:6-8

For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.​

What Paul's Saying...

(Following context) Grace is the Power of Salvation (post #5), so before gaining it (by having faith in Christ) we’re all weak and ungodly. Rarely will a person die for a righteous person, let alone an ungodly person. But Christ died for us.


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[Yahshua]

(Following context) Grace is the Power of Salvation (post #5), so before gaining it (by having faith in Christ) we’re all weak and ungodly. Rarely will a person die for a righteous person, let alone an ungodly person. But Christ died for us.

Romans 5:9

Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.​

What Paul's Saying...

INTERESTING POINT: Paul shows Justification and Salvation are two separate things. He defines Justification as being covered by Christ blood/life, while Salvation is future deliverance from God’s Wrath. Since Paul brings up God’s wrath again, we must return to it in context.


1. (In context) God will judge all according their works (Post #10) and his wrath will be delivered to those who are disobedient (Post #6).

2. Justification is by (having Abraham’s level of) faith in God who raised Christ (post #222), and it’s a gift from God (post #177 & #186)

3. One who is Justified is covered by Christ’s life/blood (Post #223) – past tense.

4. Grace (also received by faith in God) is the Power from Christ (Post #2); the power not to sin (Post #36). And as far as Paul says, it's the Power of Salvation (Post #5) from God’s wrath – future tense.


So it’s incorrect to say the phrase “we are now saved”...it’s better to say it like Paul says it: “we (who continue to believe) will be saved” (from God’s wrath).

Right now, believers are “justified”. And they’re no longer weak because they also have Christ’s grace; the power TO BE saved. Specifically, it’s the power to live an obedient life and not sin. It’s the "change of heart" (post #29)...and the effect of that change is having Christ’s obedience (Post #36 & Post #39).

Christ’s obedience then fulfills the Law (Post#12), as God will judge everyone according to their works (post #10).


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[Yahshua]

INTERESTING POINT: Paul shows Justification and Salvation are two separate things. He defines Justification as being covered by Christ blood/life, while Salvation is future deliverance from God’s Wrath. Since Paul brings up God’s wrath again, we must return to it in context.


1. (In context) God will judge all according their works (Post #10) and his wrath will be delivered to those who are disobedient (Post #6).

2. Justification is by (having Abraham’s level of) faith in God who raised Christ (post #222), and it’s a gift from God (post #177 & #186)

3. One who is Justified is covered by Christ’s life/blood (Post #223) – past tense.

4. Grace (also received by faith in God) is the Power from Christ (Post #2); the power not to sin (Post #36). And as far as Paul says, it's the Power of Salvation (Post #5) from God’s wrath – future tense.


So it’s incorrect to say the phrase “we are now saved”...it’s better to say it like Paul says it: “we (who continue to believe) will be saved” (from God’s wrath).

Right now, believers are “justified”. And they’re no longer weak because they also have Christ’s grace; the power TO BE saved. Specifically, it’s the power to live an obedient life and not sin. It’s the "change of heart" (post #29)...and the effect of that change is having Christ’s obedience (Post #36 & Post #39).

Christ’s obedience then fulfills the Law (Post#12), as God will judge everyone according to their works (post #10).

Romans 5:10

For if while we were {past tense} enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are {present tense} reconciled, shall we be {future tense} saved by his life. ​

What Paul's Saying...

(In context to “salvation = future deliverance from God's wrath”) Paul confirms it a second time. He even uses different grammar tenses in this one thought, making clear distinctions between past, present and future events.

1. Were enemies...
2. Are reconciled...
3. Shall be saved.

[Hmm. Very interesting.] I think if anyone was “saved” (by *our* Christian understanding of the meaning of "saved") it was Paul...but while alive, he doesn't say he “was” saved in this letter. Again, he says he/they “will be” saved.

So again if we have faith we are justified, reconciled to God through Christ...but we are not saved yet. However, if we continue in that faith; if we endure, we will be saved through Christ's life (which is the process spelled out above).


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[Yahshua]

(In context to “salvation = future deliverance from God's wrath”) Paul confirms it a second time. He even uses different grammar tenses in this one thought, making clear distinctions between past, present and future events.

1. Were enemies...
2. Are reconciled...
3. Shall be saved.

[Hmm. Very interesting.] I think if anyone was “saved” (by *our* Christian understanding of the meaning of "saved") it was Paul...but while alive, he doesn't say he “was” saved in this letter. Again, he says he/they “will be” saved.

So again if we have faith we are justified, reconciled to God through Christ...but we are not saved yet. However, if we continue in that faith; if we endure, we will be saved through Christ's life (which is the process spelled out above).

Romans 5:11

More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.​

What Paul's Saying...

Paul rejoices in God because believers have been reconciled to God (through justification by Christ’s blood). Again, reconciliation (through justification) can't be equated with “being saved” in Paul’s language here. His definition of Salvation is “being delivered from God’s wrath on judgment day and receiving God's glory”.


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[Elin]

Romans 4:23-25

But the words “it was counted to him” were not written for his sake alone, but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord, who {*was delivered up for our trespasses*} and {*raised for our justification*}.​

What Paul's Saying...

(Still in context to faith counting as righteousness [“calling those things that are not as though they were”]), Paul says righteousness also will be counted to the believer in God; God who raised Christ from the dead, The Messiah who:

1) Died for our sins, and...

2) Was resurrected for our justification.


INTERESTING NOTE: Do you see how the end of this passage splits between two purposes – “...for our trespasses/sins” and “...for our justification”? If we carefully follow Paul’s grammar here, Christ's death did not justify believers. Christ death paid for the believer’s sins...but after that...Christ was resurrected back to life to justify believer’s. In other words, we weren't justified at the cross...we are justified at the resurrection, with our resurrected High Priest ministering/covering us with his blood he shed at the cross. If God did not resurrect Christ, we would not be justified even if he still went to the cross.


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More precise clarification:

1) Righteousness by faith without works is not for Abraham alone, but also will be imputed to Gentiles,
as well as to Jews, who believe in God as Abraham did, who have the faith of Abraham, and whose
righteousness will be as Abraham's, credited and not one earned by works of obedience.

2) Christ died for our sin, not his own, to make atonement, to pay our debt to satisfy divine justice,
but that the payment was actually accepted and justice was actually satisfied in the Court of Divine Justice is assured to us by the resurrection of Christ, and so believers in him are in fact justified (declared guiltless, righteous before God), as assured by the resurrection.

So Paul makes clear once more that we are not justified by any works of our own, but only by saving
(obedient) faith in the work of Christ, who is the Promise of God.

 

[Hoffco]

For the truth of the Gospel and the Glory of God, I will correct the "dribble drabble" coming from the mouth of Elin, Sorry, Elin, but what you say, makes as much sense as the naked man running down the middle of the road ,yelling "Repent, the end is near!" Paul begin his doctrinal truths in 1:1"Paul, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated to the gospel of God" Please, read that, for the first time in your life with an intelligent mind. The theme of Romans is: THE GOSPEL of GOD. NOW the doctrinal theme is heavy , with little brake, thru out the chps.1-11: Then we see more application of the Gospel for personal living, which has already been present in all the chps. Please read with some intelligence. Lets drop this and con't our study with Yahshua. Love in Christ. Hoffco

 

[Elin]

Romans 5:1

Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.​

What Paul's Saying...

“Therefore” means Paul is concluding a point based on previous points in context. He’s not making an independent statement without the foundation he’s established, so we must reference previous Posts:

All of which were demonstrated to be Judaizing of the texts.

1. Having faith is “full, unwavering conviction of a truth not yet realized” (Post #193), that is contrary to one’s present circumstance (Post #210); faith like Abraham.

That's Judaizing the meaning of faith in Romans 4.

Ge 15:6 shows that faith is believing what God says, period.

Paul refers only to Ge 15:6 in Romans (4:3).

Righteousness was credited to Abraham simply because he believed,
with no works of obedience involved.

2. Such faith is counted as righteousness (Post #42); faith which is confirmed/proved from one’s action as the evidence/fruit of it (Post #178)

That's Judaizing Ge 15:6.

There were no actions of Abraham in Ge 15:6 as the reason for God crediting righteousness to him.

3. Through that faith, one receives the gift of justification (Post #177 & #186).

More Judaizing.

"That faith" through which one receives justification does not involve works of obedience.

4. Justification is our resurrected High Priest ministering with his blood inside the temple (i.e. “covering the furnishings”); a process of covering the believer with his life.

That is nowhere found in Romans. . .more Judaizng.

Justification is crediting of guiltless, right standing before God through faith in Christ Jesus,

no works of obedience involved, as there were no works involved with Abraham's justification (Ge 15:6).

Therefore...Paul is saying since they (having the faith of Abraham) “have been justified”, they can have peace with God through Christ.

Slipping around through the cracks of imprecision

"They having the faith of Abraham" for which God credited him with righteousness
without any works of obedience involved.

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IMPORTANT: I purposely typed “they” (and not “we”) because Paul was talking about he and the believers in Rome. Having faith (especially faith on the level of Abraham’s) is between you and God. Only *you* can know for sure if you have such faith because it’s your “walk of faithfulness”. It’s not automatically true for you simply because I or someone else says it.

The "faith on the level of Abraham's," for which God credited righteousness to Abraham,
did not involve works of obedience.

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This summary at Ro 5:1 is pure Judaizing of Paul at every turn.

 

[Elin]

Romans 5:2

Through him we have also obtained access {by faith} into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.​

What Paul's Saying...

(Following the context) In addition to Justification (Post #223), Paul says the believer *also* gets Grace for the *hope* of the glory of God:

- Grace is the Power of Salvation from Christ (post #5) purchased by his blood (Post #36).

- The Glory of God is the goal of that Grace...so Paul says they rejoice in the hope of it.

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More precise clarification:

"Stand" is in the present tense, so we are now standing in this grace of peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.
We are no longer God's enemies (v.10), for we have been credited with guiltlessness and righteousness before him.

And now we are confident that the glory of God for which we were created (3:23)
will be ultimately realized in his "new creation."

Grace is God's unmerited favor.

Grace is God's power at work in the believer.

Grace is the power of God regenerating our spirit, raising it from death to eternal life.

The glory of God is the "new creation" by his power,
in the grace of rebirth, justification, sanctification, glorification.

 

[Elin]

Romans 5:3-5

Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.​

What Paul's Saying...

(Following context) Paul says they also rejoice in the struggle that builds up character & that hope, because God’s love is in them.

More precise clarification:

We can rejoice in our sufferings, not because of our sufferings, because suffering produces character in the believer.

The believer's hope is more than just positive optimism which can fail and shame.
It is grounded in the assurance from God of our future destiny, and in his love.

And so we've gone from faith (v.1). . . to hope (vv. 2, 4-5). . .to love (v.5) for the Christian life.

 

[Elin]

Romans 5:6-8

For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.​

What Paul's Saying...

(Following context) Grace is the Power of Salvation (post #5), so before gaining it (by having faith in Christ) we’re all weak and ungodly. Rarely will a person die for a righteous person, let alone an ungodly person. But Christ died for us.


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Alternative:

Grace is not the power of salvation.

Grace is God's power acting, saving us.

We don't gain the power of salvation.

We are saved by God's power.

All mankind is ungodly (Ro 1:18-3:20), we are neither righteous nor good,
so Christ's love is not grounded in any inherent worthiness on our part (as in obedience),
but grounded solely in God's free grace.
In fact, it is lavished on us in spite of our ungodly unrighteousness and unworthiness.

More separation of grace from works by Paul.

 

[Elin]

Romans 5:9

Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.​

What Paul's Saying...

INTERESTING POINT: Paul shows Justification and Salvation are two separate things. He defines Justification as being covered by Christ blood/life,

Alternative:

What a Judaizing scrambled mess.

When referring to the atoning sacrifice of Christ,
"blood" means what it meant in the sacrificial system, death.

It was the death of the animal that atoned for sin, not its life.

while Salvation is future deliverance from God’s Wrath.

Yes, salvation has always been from the just wrath of God on sin at the final judgment.

Since Paul brings up God’s wrath again, we must return to it in context.

1. (In context) God will judge all according their works (Post #10) and his wrath will be delivered to those who are disobedient (Post #6).

God judges (sentence of eternal destiny) only those under the law and under conscience according to their works.

God judges (sentence of eternal destiny) those in Christ according to their faith, not their works.

While God judges (sentence of eternal destiny) those in Christ according to their faith,
he rewards them in heaven according to the quality of their work.

2. Justification is by (having Abraham’s level of) faith in God who raised Christ (post #222), and it’s a gift from God (post #177 & #186)

Judaizing Ge 15:6 again, the only subject of Ro 4.

Abraham's "level of faith" was simply believing what God said.

And without any works involved, God credited that faith as righteousness to Abraham.

3. One who is Justified is covered by Christ’s life/blood (Post #223) – past tense.

The sacrificial blood of Christ means his death, which atoned for sin.
His life did not atone for sin.

4. Grace (also received by faith in God) is the Power from Christ (Post #2); the power not to sin (Post #36).
And as far as Paul says, it's the Power of Salvation (Post #5) from God’s wrath – future tense.
Paul does not say that grace is the "power of salvation."

Grace is God's power anywhere it is at work in the believer.

Grace is God saving the believer by God's power.

Grace is not the power of salvation,
salvation is the power of God, through Christ's atonement, delivering us from eternal damnation.

So it’s incorrect to say the phrase “we are now saved”...it’s better to say it like Paul says it: “we (who continue to believe) will be saved” (from God’s wrath).

We are saved, justified and glorified (past tense) now, according to Paul (Ro 8:30).
According to Paul, it was a "done deal" before the foundation of the world (Eph 1:3).

Right now, believers are “justified”.

Justified is declared guiltless, righteous before God.

And they’re no longer weak because they also have Christ’s grace; the power TO BE saved. Specifically, it’s the power to live an obedient life and not sin. It’s the "change of heart" (post #29)...and the effect of that change is having Christ’s obedience (Post #36 & Post #39).

What a scrambled mess.

You are confounding righteousness "imparted" (power to live an obedient life, sanctification)
with righteousness "imputed" (the obedience of Christ imputed, Ro 5:19).

They are not the same thing.

Christ’s obedience then fulfills the Law (Post#12), as God will judge everyone according to their works (post #10).

Precisely what does that mean?

 

[Karraster]

[h=1]Leviticus 17:11[/h] Viewing the King James Version. Click to switch to 1611 King James Version of Leviticus 17:11.

[h=2]For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.[/h]

 

[Elin]

Romans 5:10

For if while we were {past tense} enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are {present tense} reconciled, shall we be {future tense} saved by his life. ​

What Paul's Saying...

(In context to “salvation = future deliverance from God's wrath”) Paul confirms it a second time. He even uses different grammar tenses in this one thought, making clear distinctions between past, present and future events.

1. Were enemies...
2. Are reconciled...
3. Shall be saved.

[Hmm. Very interesting.] I think if anyone was “saved” (by *our* Christian understanding of the meaning of "saved") it was Paul...but while alive, he doesn't say he “was” saved in this letter. Again, he says he/they “will be” saved.

So again if we have faith we are justified, reconciled to God through Christ...but we are not saved yet. However, if we continue in that faith; if we endure, we will be saved through Christ's life (which is the process spelled out above).If you agree with this interpretation, “like” it.

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Comments:

1) Christ's life in v. 10 is his life now, his intercession for his people (Heb 7:25).

2) And keep in mind that salvation also means
deliverance from sin,
sanctification,
deliverance at the Parousia, etc.

 

[Elin]

Romans 5:11

More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.​

What Paul's Saying...

Paul rejoices in God because believers have been reconciled to God (through justification by Christ’s blood). Again, reconciliation (through justification) can't be equated with “being saved” in Paul’s language here. His definition of
Salvation is “being delivered from God’s wrath on judgment day and receiving God's glory”.

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Comment:

Keeping in mind that:

1) justification is declared guiltless, given right standing before God, and

2) salvation also means other things to Paul.

 

[Elin]

Leviticus 17:11

Viewing the King James Version. Click to switch to 1611 King James Version of Leviticus 17:11.

For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

Yes, the life is in the blood, and the (life in the) blood is poured out at the base of the altar.

The pouring out of blood is death.

It is the death of Jesus, not his life, that atones, just as it was the death of the animal, not its life, that atoned.