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Romans 8[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (flesh attitude is selfishness, verses God loves in Spirit everyone) [SUP]2 [/SUP]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. (hath is past tense made me free, Christ did this if one chooses belief, by the law of the Spirit) [SUP]3 [/SUP]For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:( all sin is condemned to what? Flesh the carnal mindset of selfishness?) [SUP]4 [/SUP]that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. ( renews ones mindset to maybe see Father's point of view seeing through Son maybe?)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.( There is a difference between mindsets flesh or Spirit are there not? One frees and gives life and they other is in bondage to survive selfishly.) [SUP]6 [/SUP]For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.( a repeat of verse 6 or the showing what one and the other bring life or death) [SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.( so what do I do, about this carnal mindset, I have how do I get God's mindset in Spirit and truth?) [SUP]8 [/SUP]So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.( do we know see this?)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. So in essence, either one believes and receives or one does not. Now if one has received then they know and are secure in belief, when one hath received. Otherwise one is stressed out in trying to receive, which if they do not give up one day they will see and be at rest in belief beyond a shadow of a doubt, and have entered the rest God has for us all, yet not all might enter, because of unbelief as in the day of provocation they did not enter his rest, because of unbelief) [SUP]10 [/SUP]And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. ( see contingent on whether one believes or not. It is or it is not dead, and if you are Spirit filled the old man is dead, not something one thinks about that brings about doubt) [SUP]11 [/SUP]But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. ( are we listening it is by Faith that this is truth, do we beleive or trying to believe, being busy with trying to show good fruits) So is it finished as he said in John 19:30, did Christ do it all for us, and do we beleive he loves us that much, that deep?
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. [SUP]13 [/SUP]For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.( how does one Mortify the deeds of the body, flesh mindset? awe through the Spirit, not self right?) [SUP]14 [/SUP]For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. Led by who, or what, God in the Spirit of God, who leads? So we are either the Son's of god by the Spirit of God or Son's of the flesh in the Spirit of Adam right? and this is by waht whether or not one believes or not right?[SUP]15 [/SUP]For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. Are we crying Abba Father in thanksgiving and praise or are we crying I need forgiveness and to do right, because one does not believe it is finished, done complete in Son to be delivered to Father and cry thank you, loudly in appreciation? [SUP]16 [/SUP]The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:( will that happen without belief 100%, no doubt can be in place can it) Did not christ say that to the people it was your Fatih (belief) that saved you, and go in peace, so do you all believe God? Or going to stay in doubt and try to search it out and try to be good to get God to be pleased with you and what you do or not do? People are and either reward you or scold you, and yet God just love you. [SUP]17 [/SUP]and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. suffer with him, hmm wondering, could this be stand firm in him, that he did do it all for you and by beleif in his finished work and resurrected life you are saved period, done finished by God whom has just waited for you to believe God and stand firm in that as Chirst did against the pharisees and religous leaders who told truth, but did not do it, as is the same today, nothing is new under the sun (SON)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. I reckon is the same as I believe, or I know, to suffer here now, while others as I myself have reviled in not loving others unless they see as I or they do, which today I quit that attitude and asked God to see from God's view not this worlds, and this was seen by seeing that Chirst is alive right now here today forevermore [SUP]19 [/SUP]For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. [SUP]20 [/SUP]For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, [SUP]21 [/SUP]because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. How will we be delivered as that is what it just said right? by beleiving God or by works to be right with God, when it takes what to be perfect and no flesh can be perfect, so are we made perfect by God, from God through Chirst or not? since no flesh works can make us perfect? [SUP]22 [/SUP]For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. Until now, waht was now att his time of writing, until Christ, was this waht he is referring to the cross of Christ? So is there a before the cross and an after the cross, a dividing line in death and life? [SUP]23 [/SUP]And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. Does this say that our flesh is not redeemed, that our Spirit is? [SUP]24 [/SUP]For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? [SUP]25 [/SUP]But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. This hope stands strong in us all, and we are to wait to see this hope that is a reality, when we see to give up all to God who has past trense already done it all, then one passes hope and sees OSAS, boasting in God and God alone. one has past from death to life here and now recokning by the cross they are dead to flesh mindset and alive to God's mindset in the resurrected Christ. God holds your old flesh alive now in Spirit and truth
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. Are we listening again here it shows we can do nothing of ourselves it takes Faith in the living Savior Christ to be transported to Father and thus walk in the new life in Spirit and truth, flesh old flesh is reckoned dead [SUP]27 [/SUP]And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.To the will of who? God or you? Who knows best for you God or you? and that right there is still dependent on belief or not right or wrong? [SUP]28 [/SUP]And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. [SUP]29 [/SUP]For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. [SUP]30 [/SUP]Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. It again still appears to me that it is all God and none of me or anyone else, and this is contingent on whether I believe God in whole , no doubts, any doubts how can one see?
[SUP]31 [/SUP]What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? So do we see Gods is for us? and that it is by belief without a doubt, add just one doubt and one can't see can we? [SUP]32 [/SUP]He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? Are we listening, freely give us all what? a Good house a great wife, lots of money, I think not, waht does everyone want? Is it life above all? Well so what does he give by his resurrection? Life right in what flesh or Spirit of Father? [SUP]33 [/SUP]Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? okay here it seems to be a separation in God's love, as if I am not called unless he calls, so the ? is then has God called all or not? yes God has, and that is to beleive God or not, that is all folks do you believe Christ is risen and alive right here right now? If you do then you will see and be right with God and all your worldly views will change to see beyond this corrupted world and rejoice in knowing God does just love you so much that he did send Son for you to redeem you in Spirit and truth, where you will see the truth and be free in it? It is God that justifieth.Either you will believe this or you will believe with doubt, and if have doubt while trying to beleive how can this justifcation be seen? [SUP]34 [/SUP]Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. You catch that risen, if one does not believe he is risen then we are still in our sins and to be pitied of all people, but he is risen, and if anyone doubts that, and many do, how can one see new life he came to give if they doubt and try to be right by works they are doing as if God will be pleased in any flesh works we do? [SUP]35 [/SUP]Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? [SUP]36 [/SUP]As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. [SUP]37 [/SUP]Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. [SUP]38 [/SUP]For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, [SUP]39 [/SUP]nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Would all that include sin whether one sins again oir not? We are looking from God's view not ours, so can any sin sepoarate us from God's unfathomable love?
And I am not saying this for anyone to tkae it for granted and just sin because they are past tense forgiven as the Corinthians did.
Rather in appreciation while we were yet failures, Chirst went all the way to death for us, and rose again on the third day. why was it three days in the grave, just like as Jonah was in the whale?
Ask God that one and hear with those spiritual ears he gave you by belief, not by works for no man couls or ever can be perfect besides Christ, before or after the cross. Father is the one that calls are we listening and beleiving unto no doubts, that Father loves us this deep. All I can see is to respond with thanksgiving and praise anyone else?
Let me back up a little, and give you the benefit of an honest mistake.