The Lie of Evolution......

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Endoscopy

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Why on a Christian site are so many disregarding Genesis as the word of God. He created all of the animals and plants. He created the design by which all living things procreate using DNA as their template to pass on the characteristics of the parents. Half from each parent with some being recessive. Why oh why do so many want evolution to be true despite what science has found. I understand atheists but not Christians ignoring the first chapters of Genesis which refutes evolution for a Christian taking the Bible as the inerrant word of God.
 

Jewel5712

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There is both micro and macro evolution theories. Micro evolution within a species is a verifiable fact. Macro evolution has new species coming from another species. This has never ever been shown by the digs of the fossils or been recorded by man. Therefore it never happened. Knowledge about DNA today precludes it from happening. In Darwins time all they knew about cells was what they could see with a magnifying glass on chard wood. Today with the electron microscopes we see the activities inside the cell with all of the protein engines doing their functions and some traveling on internal strings. DNA has been decoded for man and some other animals. What has become apparent is the DNA for a species loses some information but never gains any new information. Adaption occurs when the environment causes the death of those with a charisteric that hurts survival. Those with that characteristic die too soon to pass that characteristic on. This usually occurs on a location basis. Others in the species living where it has no effect will keep it in the species cumulative DNA.

A friend sent me this..God can change DNA..be inspired! :)
 

Jewel5712

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Why on a Christian site are so many disregarding Genesis as the word of God. He created all of the animals and plants. He created the design by which all living things procreate using DNA as their template to pass on the characteristics of the parents. Half from each parent with some being recessive. Why oh why do so many want evolution to be true despite what science has found. I understand atheists but not Christians ignoring the first chapters of Genesis which refutes evolution for a Christian taking the Bible as the inerrant word of God.
Lol..NO ONE is ignoring anything but PLEASE for God Sakes..READ what others have written..lol i Posted the scripture in Genisis etc...PLEASSSSEEE READ previous ppsts before jumping in accusing people of stuff..lol

And yes..basic genetics..biology 101..lol
 

Dino246

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There is both micro and macro evolution theories. Micro evolution within a species is a verifiable fact. Macro evolution has new species coming from another species. This has never ever been shown by the digs of the fossils or been recorded by man. Therefore it never happened.
I don't disagree with your position, but your reasoning is flawed. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
 

trofimus

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Why on a Christian site are so many disregarding Genesis as the word of God. He created all of the animals and plants. He created the design by which all living things procreate using DNA as their template to pass on the characteristics of the parents. Half from each parent with some being recessive. Why oh why do so many want evolution to be true despite what science has found. I understand atheists but not Christians ignoring the first chapters of Genesis which refutes evolution for a Christian taking the Bible as the inerrant word of God.
Genesis 1 &2 is not written to be understood literally, as a scientific description of material composition of the universe. You are doing it a bad service if you read it in the way it was not meant to be read.

 

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Very much sounds like this is "copy n pasted' and not your own words? If so..it really should be stated that way n in quotes fyi ;)
I have read extensively about the subject. I gave reference to some of it in a preceding post. I get my information from science based Christian sites as well as other scientific sites. Since the universe is expanding as noted by astronomers it therefore has a begining. 2 paradigms prevail.
Christian paradigm is "In the begining God created the heavens and earth."
Atheist paradigm is big bang evolution.

The problem is big bang evolution fails 5 seperate scientific laws.

5 Miracles of Violating Scientific Laws for Big Bang Evolution
https://creation.com/five-atheist-miracles
 

trofimus

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I have read extensively about the subject. I gave reference to some of it in a preceding post. I get my information from science based Christian sites as well as other scientific sites. Since the universe is expanding as noted by astronomers it therefore has a begining. 2 paradigms prevail.
Christian paradigm is "In the begining God created the heavens and earth."
Atheist paradigm is big bang evolution.

The problem is big bang evolution fails 5 seperate scientific laws.

5 Miracles of Violating Scientific Laws for Big Bang Evolution
https://creation.com/five-atheist-miracles
You are still looking for a conflict. God created the universe is a statement of authorship. The big bang theory is a working scientific model about the mechanism.

And there is nothing atheistic about it. Atheists tried to dismiss the BB theory, read about the history of it. Atheists wanted the universe to be eternal. The BB theory reminded them the Christian idea and therefore atheists were fighting against it. But evidence was too compelling and therefore they had to accept it.
 

Jewel5712

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I have read extensively about the subject. I gave reference to some of it in a preceding post. I get my information from science based Christian sites as well as other scientific sites. Since the universe is expanding as noted by astronomers it therefore has a begining. 2 paradigms prevail.
Christian paradigm is "In the begining God created the heavens and earth."
Atheist paradigm is big bang evolution.

The problem is big bang evolution fails 5 seperate scientific laws.

5 Miracles of Violating Scientific Laws for Big Bang Evolution
https://creation.com/five-atheist-miracles
N if you didnt take my comment out of text..you would have read that i BELIEVE in creationism n not the big bang theory...which some evolutionist believe in..so please be careful when reading :)
 

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Genesis 1 &2 is not written to be understood literally, as a scientific description of material composition of the universe. You are doing it a bad service if you read it in the way it was not meant to be read.

That is not the only interpretation of Genesis. Refute any of the science in the links if you can.

Genesis as an ancient historical record
https://creation.com/genesis-as-ancient-historical-narrative

Archaeological digs on Biblical sites prove the 100% accuracy of the history it records. Even the flood. The Grand Canyon for example has straight lines with no erosion proving they were deposited at the same time. Science strikes again!!


Evolutionary Dilemma
http://creation.com/evolutionary-dilemma

Desperate Attempts to Discover 'the Elusive Process of Evolution'
http://creation.com/review-altenberg-16

The Four Dimensional Human Genome Defies Naturalistic Explanations (see the Conclusions)
http://creation.com/four-dimensional-genome

Response to anti creationist books
http://creation.com/response-to-ant...eationism-defending-darwin-by-selkirk-burrows

15 ways to refute materialist bigotry
http://creation.com/15-ways-to-refute-materialistic-bigotry

Countering the critics questions and answers
http://creation.com/countering-the-critics-questions-and-answers

Unmasking a long age icon
http://creation.com/unmasking-a-long-age-icon

Canyon Creation
http://creation.com/canyon-creation

Evidence for Creation
http://www.icr.org/evidence

A Few Reasons Evolutionary Origin of Life is Impossible
http://www.icr.org/article/few-reasons-evolutionary-origin-life-impossible/

An Open Letter to the Scientific Community (Big Bang)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140401081546/http://cosmologystatement.org/

101 Evidences of the Young Age of Earth - CMI
http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth

Response to the Atheistic Opposition to 101 Evidences
http://creation.com/atheistic-opposition-response

Evolution Biologically Impossible
http://www.icr.org/article/evolution-biologically-impossible/

Scientific Case Against Evolution - Part 1 and 2 - ICR
http://www.icr.org/article/scientific-case-against-evolution-summary-part-1/
http://www.icr.org/article/scientific-case-against-evolution-summary-part-2/

Conclusions

The genome is a multi-dimensional operating system for an ultra-complex biological computer, with built-in error correcting and self-modification codes. There are multiple overlapping DNA codes, RNA codes, and structural codes. There are DNA genes and RNA genes. The genome was designed with a large amount of redundancy, on purpose, by a highly-intelligent being who used sound engineering principles during its construction. Despite the redundancy, it displays an amazing degree of compactness as a mere 22,000 or so protein-coding genes combinatorially create several hundred thousand distinct proteins.

I have a challenge for the evolutionist: Explain the origin of the genome! Charles Darwin wrote in the origin of species:

If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down.

I know this quote has been abused (by both sides of the debate) but let’s think about this for a second. The simpler life is, the easier it is to explain in Darwinian terms. On the other hand, the more complex life becomes, the more intractable a problem it causes for evolutionary theory. We have just seen that the genome is the opposite of simple. This should make all Darwinists very uncomfortable.

I claim the genome could not have arisen through known naturalistic processes. The evolutionist who wants to take up this challenge must give us a workable scenario, including the source of informational changes, an account of the amount of mutation necessary, and a description of the selective forces necessary, all within the proper time frame. They will discover that evolution cannot do what they require, even over millions of years.
 

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You are still looking for a conflict. God created the universe is a statement of authorship. The big bang theory is a working scientific model about the mechanism.

And there is nothing atheistic about it. Atheists tried to dismiss the BB theory, read about the history of it. Atheists wanted the universe to be eternal. The BB theory reminded them the Christian idea and therefore atheists were fighting against it. But evidence was too compelling and therefore they had to accept it.
You ignore the so called mechanism goes against what God said. Explain to me how it happened in 1 day for plants and 1 day for animals. The narrative using the word yom as day makes it a 24 hour period of time. Yom has all of the same definitions of day. Context provides the time definations. In Genesis the context in Hebrew makes it a 24 hour period. Here is another hurdle you have to overcome. Why is there C14 in diamonds? With millions of years it would be gone. Also soft tissue has been found in dinosaur bones. How can this be?

Atheists attack Genesis since it is the foundational book of the Bible. Refuting it makes all scripture suspect!! You seem to buy into the atheist narrative of Genesis. Why?
 

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@Endoscopy..boy you and undergrace are a lot alike..same wording etc..hmmm
Comes from using creation.com and other science based Christian sites. Scientific facts are what we post.

Here is science refuting big bang evolution. It starts with something from nothing and ends with human intelligence.. Refute it if you can.

5 Miracles of Violating Scientific Laws for Big Bang Evolution
https://creation.com/five-atheist-miracles
 

trofimus

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You ignore the so called mechanism goes against what God said. Explain to me how it happened in 1 day for plants and 1 day for animals. The narrative using the word yom as day makes it a 24 hour period of time. Yom has all of the same definitions of day. Context provides the time definations. In Genesis the context in Hebrew makes it a 24 hour period. Here is another hurdle you have to overcome. Why is there C14 in diamonds? With millions of years it would be gone. Also soft tissue has been found in dinosaur bones. How can this be?

Atheists attack Genesis since it is the foundational book of the Bible. Refuting it makes all scripture suspect!! You seem to buy into the atheist narrative of Genesis. Why?
 

Jewel5712

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Comes from using creation.com and other science based Christian sites. Scientific facts are what we post.

Here is science refuting big bang evolution. It starts with something from nothing and ends with human intelligence.. Refute it if you can.

5 Miracles of Violating Scientific Laws for Big Bang Evolution
https://creation.com/five-atheist-miracles
Not sure ANYONE on this thread right noe believe in the big bang theory so youre safe..lol
 

Jewel5712

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I believe that God created everything through Christ, not through some kind of shouting :)
Lol..who said He shouted? Lol And God fufilled the prophecies of the Ot thru His Son Jesus..