The Lie of Evolution......

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Jewel5712

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Creation Ministries International is a multinational science based Christian organization. They uses science to defend Genesis 1:1 In the begining God created the heavens and earth. ICR is another smaller one based in Texas. Science my friend. I'm surprised you would even think big bang evolution has any semblance of reality. I keep the following to refute all versions of non Biblical and non scientific evolution. You asked for it you got it.

Scientific Christian Websites

Creation Ministries International
A science based Christian organization dedicated to proving the Bible especially Genesis.
Who we are: the people involved in offices in:
Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa, UK/Europe, and United States
http://creation.com/about-us
http://creation.com
https://creation.com/flaws-in-dating-the-earth-as-ancient
https://creation.com/startling-evidence-for-noahs-flood
https://creation.com/genesis-as-ancient-historical-narrative

Five Atheist Miracles are Required for Evolution
http://creation.com/five-atheist-miracles

Refute these scientific laws or admit you are placing your faith in the impossible.
Keep in mind that if I am wrong how does that hurt me?
However if you are wrong you are in deep dodo.

More science based Christian sites proving atheism is wrong and refuting big bang evolution

Evidence for Creation
http://www.icr.org/evidence/
http://creation.com/archaeology-supports-bible

Hidden treasures in junk DNA - not useless after all
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/hidden-treasures-in-junk-dna/

http://healthland.time.com/2012/09/06/junk-dna-not-so-useless-after-all/

Big Bang Busted by 33 Top Scientists
http://rense.com/general53/bbng.htm

Additional Scientists Sign Up
https://web.archive.org/web/20140401081546/http://cosmologystatement.org/

Things found in coal etc.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Hammer

http://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/paleontological/artifacts/bell/

http://www.6000years.org/frame.php?page=stuff_in_coal



Institute for Creation Research
Dallas Texas
Created to do scientific research, education, and communication on the Bible.
http://www.icr.org/who-we-are
icr.org


OOPARTS
(out of place artifacts) & Ancient HighTechnology
Provides proof that the Bible is factual using the existence of items demonstrating old earth is flawed.
http://s8int.com


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I had a whole LONG conversation with undergrace..might want to review ;)
 

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No evidence? Prove it..
Keep in mind that currently research into DNA has found it is an extremely long double helix molecule coded in a quartenary code of proteins defining the organism it is from. The information is extremely extensive. It has the ability to resist changes. Do you really think this intelligent extensive information came about by random chance. I have a bridge to sell you if you want to make money on tolls. NY needs money so I can broker the sale of the Brooklyn Bridge to you.
 

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Lecture is TOTALLY UNECCISSARY..please read my previous comments THEN get back to me without taking my words out of context..thanks
It is obvious to the casual observer that you are ignoring all of the science based organizations with multiple documents on them written by scientists they have on their staffs. Start with the 5 Miracles for Evolution. It takes about the scientific laws that evolution ignores.
 

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It is obvious to the casual observer that you are ignoring all of the science based organizations with multiple documents on them written by scientists they have on their staffs. Start with the 5 Miracles for Evolution. It takes about the scientific laws that evolution ignores.
Do you have any working model that allows us to make predictions in all areas of science or do you just collect articles that attack evolution but are useless for any practicle life use?
 

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Read below

ev·o·lu·tion
ˌevəˈlo͞oSH(ə)n/Submit
noun
1.
the process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth.
synonyms: Darwinism, natural selection
"his interest in evolution"
2.
the gradual development of something, especially from a simple to a more complex form.
"the forms of written languages undergo constant evolution"
synonyms: development, advancement, growth, rise, progress, expansion, unfolding; More

Has this NOT been the definition of what ive been describing all day? Yes..it is..DARWYN EVOLUTION is different..based on "NATURAL SELECTION".. RIGHT?

Again...there are various forms of "evolution" so im not WRONG im just not talking about Darwyns theory of evolution which youd know because i quoted and posted scripture in genesis regarding the OPs question .AND..if you read my replies..youd KNOW i believe in creationism the way the Bible says...(HAD you read my posts like you claimed)..i think my point has been made quite a few times now so there shouldnt be any further questions...:)

Btw..i DID use the word that man had to adapt..reas that post?
Evolution requires a change in the DNA to go to another species. Science has found DNA is extremely resistant to change. So far every time this happens the offspring are stillborn. The closest man has come is the mule which is sterile. Even so it is in the same species.

All evidence known precludes evolution going from one species to another. The Cambrian explosion of thousands of new species has no transitional fossils.

DNA and archaeological digs have produced no evidence that evolution can or has happened.
 

Jewel5712

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Evolution requires a change in the DNA to go to another species. Science has found DNA is extremely resistant to change. So far every time this happens the offspring are stillborn. The closest man has come is the mule which is sterile. Even so it is in the same species.

All evidence known precludes evolution going from one species to another. The Cambrian explosion of thousands of new species has no transitional fossils.

DNA and archaeological digs have produced no evidence that evolution can or has happened.
Definition doesnt say requires change to DNA..thats..YOUR understanding
 

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Do you have any working model that allows us to make predictions in all areas of science or do you just collect articles that attack evolution but are useless for any practicle life use?
You point to a science based evolution article by a scientist proving the theory happened. I go by what science has overwhelmingly found as facts. DNA resists it and absolutely no evidence it ever happened.
 

trofimus

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You point to a science based evolution article by a scientist proving the theory happened. I go by what science has overwhelmingly found as facts. DNA resists it and absolutely no evidence it ever happened.
Do you have any working scientific model that allows scientists to make predictions in biology, archeology, botanics, agriculture, medical research, paleontology, cancer treatments etc? Which one?

If not, then you just do not like evolution, but without any replacement.
 

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Definition doesnt say requires change to DNA..thats..YOUR understanding
You obviously don't understand that DNA in a species is almost identical only differing in certain features that breeds in the species have. For example dogs with floppy ears have no cartelege there in their DNA.
 

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Do you have any working scientific model that allows scientists to make predictions in biology, archeology, botanics, agriculture, medical research, paleontology, cancer treatments etc? Which one?

If not, then you just do not like evolution, but without any replacement.
You state this on a Christian site. Are you a Christian? Read the first 3 chapters of Genesis. God created...
 

Jewel5712

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You obviously don't understand that DNA in a species is almost identical only differing in certain features that breeds in the species have. For example dogs with floppy ears have no cartelege there in their DNA.
Yes..i actually do..almost took genetics in college..however..i made my posts very clear..and what and why i believe...the websters dictionary definition is very clear and i just think youre looking for an arguement because addressing DNA has nothing to do with the OPs original post
 

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You obviously don't understand that DNA in a species is almost identical only differing in certain features that breeds in the species have. For example dogs with floppy ears have no cartelege there in their DNA.
Btw..no cartilage in dna ? How bout nose? Joints? More cartilage than just ears..lol
 

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You state this on a Christian site. Are you a Christian? Read the first 3 chapters of Genesis. God created...
Again, do you have any working scientific model that can be helpful for scientific predictions in various fields of science and replace the theory of evolution?

Yes/No.
 

Jewel5712

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@Endoscopy

Heres an article of why dogs have floppy ears..n yes..CAN be the breed..but my whole point is..there is NO DEFINITIVES in this thread topic..for every thing you can "prove" someone else can prove. THIER knowlege...example..some scientists believe tgat coffee causes camcer..theres other studies that it doesnt...as ive posted before..theres gonna be NO RESOLVE with creationists and evolutionists..been on going for years n years by people a lot more knowlegabke than us that have made thier life careers studyimg and researching this stuff so no sense "mud slinging"

"Because the neural crest influences more than the adrenal glands, the domestication process could also lead to all of the aforementioned physical signs of tameness. They aren't always beneficial. Floppy ears, for example, may look adorable on dogs and rabbits, but they actually are a result of malformed ear cartilage.Jul 14, 2014"
 

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Again, do you have any working scientific model that can be helpful for scientific predictions in various fields of science and replace the theory of evolution?

Yes/No.
Again...that would be a "no" im guessing..
 

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Read below

ev·o·lu·tion
ˌevəˈlo͞oSH(ə)n/Submit
noun
1.
the process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth.
synonyms: Darwinism, natural selection
"his interest in evolution"
2.
the gradual development of something, especially from a simple to a more complex form.
"the forms of written languages undergo constant evolution"
synonyms: development, advancement, growth, rise, progress, expansion, unfolding; More

Has this NOT been the definition of what ive been describing all day? Yes..it is..DARWYN EVOLUTION is different..based on "NATURAL SELECTION".. RIGHT?

Again...there are various forms of "evolution" so im not WRONG im just not talking about Darwyns theory of evolution which youd know because i quoted and posted scripture in genesis regarding the OPs question .AND..if you read my replies..youd KNOW i believe in creationism the way the Bible says...(HAD you read my posts like you claimed)..i think my point has been made quite a few times now so there shouldnt be any further questions...:)

Btw..i DID use the word that man had to adapt..reas that post?
There is both micro and macro evolution theories. Micro evolution within a species is a verifiable fact. Macro evolution has new species coming from another species. This has never ever been shown by the digs of the fossils or been recorded by man. Therefore it never happened. Knowledge about DNA today precludes it from happening. In Darwins time all they knew about cells was what they could see with a magnifying glass on chard wood. Today with the electron microscopes we see the activities inside the cell with all of the protein engines doing their functions and some traveling on internal strings. DNA has been decoded for man and some other animals. What has become apparent is the DNA for a species loses some information but never gains any new information. Adaption occurs when the environment causes the death of those with a charisteric that hurts survival. Those with that characteristic die too soon to pass that characteristic on. This usually occurs on a location basis. Others in the species living where it has no effect will keep it in the species cumulative DNA.
 

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Again, do you have any working scientific model that can be helpful for scientific predictions in various fields of science and replace the theory of evolution?

Yes/No.
I mean that ENDOSCOPY would be saying "no, to your comment..not ME..lol
 

Jewel5712

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There is both micro and macro evolution theories. Micro evolution within a species is a verifiable fact. Macro evolution has new species coming from another species. This has never ever been shown by the digs of the fossils or been recorded by man. Therefore it never happened. Knowledge about DNA today precludes it from happening. In Darwins time all they knew about cells was what they could see with a magnifying glass on chard wood. Today with the electron microscopes we see the activities inside the cell with all of the protein engines doing their functions and some traveling on internal strings. DNA has been decoded for man and some other animals. What has become apparent is the DNA for a species loses some information but never gains any new information. Adaption occurs when the environment causes the death of those with a charisteric that hurts survival. Those with that characteristic die too soon to pass that characteristic on. This usually occurs on a location basis. Others in the species living where it has no effect will keep it in the species cumulative DNA.
..and???.. Lol right there youre proving my previous point about environmental evolution..lol (did you read my posts regarding that with undergrace?)
 

Jewel5712

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There is both micro and macro evolution theories. Micro evolution within a species is a verifiable fact. Macro evolution has new species coming from another species. This has never ever been shown by the digs of the fossils or been recorded by man. Therefore it never happened. Knowledge about DNA today precludes it from happening. In Darwins time all they knew about cells was what they could see with a magnifying glass on chard wood. Today with the electron microscopes we see the activities inside the cell with all of the protein engines doing their functions and some traveling on internal strings. DNA has been decoded for man and some other animals. What has become apparent is the DNA for a species loses some information but never gains any new information. Adaption occurs when the environment causes the death of those with a charisteric that hurts survival. Those with that characteristic die too soon to pass that characteristic on. This usually occurs on a location basis. Others in the species living where it has no effect will keep it in the species cumulative DNA.
Very much sounds like this is "copy n pasted' and not your own words? If so..it really should be stated that way n in quotes fyi ;)