The Logic of Gay Marriage Equality

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Bluecomet

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NO. GOD said vengence is mine.
 
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SATAN only tempts CHRISTIANS. He already has the others.
 

Mo0448

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Excellent answer. I think that's the best answer I'll ever get to my question.

I will ask another one now and take advantage of your attention.

With all this talk of gay marriages being allowed in churches... Can Thr homosexual still go to hell? After all his union with another man has now been blessed by the church.

Who am I to judge whether or not one who acts on his impulse to homosexuality go to hell or not? I do not know, nor can I say or pass judgment. Who knows, they may repent before they die, and Christ, does not discriminate when we repent. As far as the church blessing that, I find it very sacrilegious. The blind leading the blind. The scriptures does say that if a shepherd lead any sheep astray the blood of those sheep will be on his hands. I guess in the end God will pass judgment as he deems fit He has a much greater sense of justice than I could even begin to understand.

Will the priest/vicar etc. be punished for granting this blessing?

If he is giving one that blessing, he must not know God at all. They are deceivers and God will surely hold them accountable for their deceit.

Will the gay man have to sign a disclaimer before the ceremony saying that even though this union is beig blessed by the church he will still go to hell for acting upon his homosexual urges?

I do not know about that. They do not think anything wrong of their unrepentant lifestyle. The support for his lifestyle he is receiving from the church is only feeding his delusion of how there is 'nothing' wrong with his lifestyle.
Does that make sense?
 
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The church can't do that, it's against GOD'S LAW.
 
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Remember that those are MAN MADE LAWS.
 

Mo0448

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The church can't do that, it's against GOD'S LAW.
actually if you google some churches in florida, they are openly performing marriages of gays/homosexuals claiming that its 'under God'. While I do not agree with them, it's being done in the name of 'God'
 
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So the gay man of the future has quite the deck stacked against him quite high in life lol.

Feels he was born this way, then finds a man and has his relationship blessed by the church. Only to die and then find out that he was sinning all along?

Surely either the bible should be edited to accommodate gay marriges, or gay marriages should not be performed in gods house.

Obviously the latter is the only option?
 
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JESUS said the whole world is off COURSE. course means- method of procedure.
 
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Bluecomet, do you have your OWN opinion on this matter or are you going to continue regurgitating someone elses?
 
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Bluecomet

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It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the ALMIGHTY GOD.
 
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Bluecomet

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You need to read your bible more and pray for understanding.
 
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Bluecomet

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What do you know that man hasn't told you?
 
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Suit yourself.
 

Mo0448

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Let us not push away those that want to know Christ for who he is. For if we look to Christ we see God, and we see grace and mercy, love and justice. As Christ followers we need to show these same things for others, whether we believe in their way of life or not. Jesus spent time with the prostitutes the tax collectors the 'sinners'.

Do you not know that sinful men will have no place in the holy nation of God? Do not be fooled. A person who does sex sins, or who worships false gods, or who is not faithful in marriage, or men who act like women, or people who do sex sins with their own sex, will have no place in the holy nation of God. Also those who steal, or those who always want to get more of everything, or who get drunk, or who say bad things about others, or take things that are not theirs, will have no place in the holy nation of God. Some of you were like that. But now your sins are washed away. You were set apart for God-like living to do His work. You were made right with God through our Lord Jesus Christ by the Spirit of our God.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11


Its not just the sexualy immoral that won't inherit the kingdom of Heaven. Many so called Christians that attend church every week, that live a 'Christian' life in appearance but are in fact no better than the nonChristians.

True and False Prophets

15“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

True and False Disciples

21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Matthew 7:15-23
 
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Scripture never lists homosexuality as the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah. Read Elijah's list: Top of the list is that they did not take care of the poor. Homosexuality is never mentioned.
Genesis chapter 19 records the two angels, disguised as human men, visiting Sodom and Gomorrah. Lot met the angels in the city square and urged them to stay at his house. The angels agreed. The Bible then says, "Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom — both young and old — surrounded the house. They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'" The angels then proceeded to blind all the men of Sodom and Gomorrah and urge Lot and his family to flee from the cities to escape the wrath that God was about to deliver. Lot and his family flee the city, and then "the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah — from the LORD out of the heavens. Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities..."

In light of the passage, the most common response to the question "What was the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah?" is that it was homosexuality. That is how the term "sodomy" came to be used to refer to anal sex between two men, whether consensual or forced. Clearly, homosexuality was part of why God destroyed the two cities. The men of Sodom and Gomorrah wanted to perform homosexual gang rape on the two angels (who were disguised as men). At the same time, it is not biblical to say that homosexuality was the exclusive reason why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.
 
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Those who attempt to explain away the biblical condemnations of homosexuality claim that the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was inhospitality. The men of Sodom and Gomorrah were certainly being inhospitable. There is probably nothing more inhospitable than homosexual gang rape. But to say God completely destroyed two cities and all their inhabitants for being inhospitable clearly misses the point. While Sodom and Gomorrah were guilty of many other horrendous sins, homosexuality was the reason God poured fiery sulfur on the cities, completely destroying them and all of their inhabitants. To this day, the area where Sodom and Gomorrah were located remains a desolate wasteland. Sodom and Gomorrah serve as a powerful example of how God feels about sin in general, and homosexuality specifically.


 
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Romans 1:26-32 (KJV)
[SUP]26 [/SUP]For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: [SUP]27 [/SUP]And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. [SUP]28 [/SUP]And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; [SUP]29 [/SUP]Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, [SUP]30 [/SUP]Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, [SUP]31 [/SUP]Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: [SUP]32[/SUP]Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

I believe there's some on here that need to take up their argument with God, because it's His word, not ours.