The Meaning Of The Parable Of Tares
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Right. The field was the world and you were agreeing with Him, backing up what was plainly stated.
Even His explanations needs His wisdom since the tares are saved believers that did not depart from iniquity as they are removed out of His kingdom, not out of the world. Only those abiding in Him are harvested out of the world. Those left behind are the tares and that is where the furnace of the fire is... in the world.
Jesus warned believers to prepare or else be cut off to face the fire coming on the earth; Luke 12:40-49
Matthew 7:21-23 cites Jesus denying ever knowing them because they were workers of iniquity and that is why they were denied because any work of iniquity denies Him ( Titus 1:15-16 ) and so in turn, He denies them ( 2 Timothy 2:12 ) but even if they err from the truth & believe not in Him any more, He still abides ( 2 Timothy 2:13 ). That is why He still calls those servants cut of as His servants and why they are getting stripes because they are His servants still in Luke 12:40-49.
So the parable of the wheat & the tares is about God judging His House first at the pre trib rapture event. The tares cannot be in His kingdom unless they were saved as in born again into that kingdom.
That is why He said those who offend and do iniquity are gathered OUT of His kingdom; not out of the world when the field is the world and the harvest of that which is good, is taken out of the world.
This is how and why there are vessels unto dishonor in His House as they will not be attending the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, but to be received later on as vessels unto dishonor but STILL in His House after the great tribulation.
That is why God is wiping the tears away from the eyes of those being resurrected after the great tribulation to perform a miracle to get them past their loss of that first inheritance of being that vessel unto honor in His House from which there would be weeping and gnashing of teeth, because the prodigal son, although he had given up his inheritance for wild living and can never get it back, is still son.
Anyway... the call is given out to every believer and even former believers to go before that throne of grace for help to discern the iniquity so they can call on Him to depart from it to be ready to be received as a vessel unto honor in His House by the grace of God and His help as the Bridegroom.
1. I do not waste my time quibbling with people, and any fair-minded person will agree. People believe whatever they want to believe, and if they choose to believe a lie, that is their problem.
2. To uphold the true Word of God in the face of opposition and ridicule is not to idolize the Bible, and you should know better.
3. The use of genuine Scriptures versus corrupt Bibles is definitely NOT a trivial issue, since God Himself says that every word of God is pure.
2. To uphold the true Word of God in the face of opposition and ridicule is not to idolize the Bible, and you should know better.
3. The use of genuine Scriptures versus corrupt Bibles is definitely NOT a trivial issue, since God Himself says that every word of God is pure.
For those that wish to know the truth about Meggido's response....
I did not put the KJV above Jesus Christ when reproving his supernatural tongue which comes with no interpretation which he assumed it is a prayer language of the Holy Spirit.
I put the KJV above all other modern Bibles when reproving his supernatural tongue which comes with no interpretation when he assumed it is a prayer language of the Holy Spirit.
That is how he defames other people for using the KJV by saying we treat His words of the KJV by placing it above Jesus Christ.
Only the KJV has it right in Romans 8:26-27, while he, whatever modern Bible he is using, ignores the truth in His words of John 16:13 in how the Holy Spirit cannot speak for Himself, but speak what He hears and so the Holy Spirit CANNOT use God's gift of tongues which is for speaking unto the people ( 1 Corinthians 14:21 ) to turn that gift around and use it for His own personal means for "secret" prayer.
Only God can help him to see the truth in His words. I know I cannot do it. So pray for him and other tongue speakers in this forum that thinks tongues can be used as a prayer language for they know not what they do.
Indeed, some preach receiving the Holy Spirit apart from salvation in order to get that kind of tongue which does not cone with interpretation while failing to heed the warning about preaching another spirit to receive in 2 Corinthians 11:1-4 and why tongues will never serve as a sign towards believers, especially for receiving what they believe is the Holy Spirit, apart from salvation the second time around ( 1 Corinthians 14:22 ).
All of us are supposed to share this testimony below... as there can be no departure from that testimony for us to all speak the same thing and have the same judgment and that is why that tongue being used as a prayer language can never be of Him when it is gained by another calling... another gospel.. to receive the Holy Spirit apart from salvation with a "sign" of tongues or as some say.. with the evidence of tongues.
1 Corinthians 12:[SUP]13 [/SUP]For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1 Corinthians 1:[SUP]9 [/SUP]God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.[SUP]10 [/SUP]Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
How does this relate to the thread? 1 Timothy 4:1-2 prophesied that some shall depart from faith and give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils... and that is how the devil sows tares among the wheat and why God will remove all those that offend and do iniquity out of His kingdom to be left behind in the world where the furnace of fire is coming upon, but because they are still His, having His seal, and that He will lose none of all the Father has given Him ( John 6:39-40 ), the sheep that followed the stranger's voice ( John 10:1-5 ) will be made to hear His voice and be of the one fold & one shepherd ( John 10:16 ) as He MUST bring them because they are His.... having His seal still even after falling away from the faith ( 2 Timothy 2:11-26 ).
So the parable of the wheat & the tares is God judging His House at the pre trib rapture event as the harvest is taken out of the field as in out of the world to be received in the kingdom of the Father's above, leaving the tares behind to receive later on as vessels unto dishonor in His House.... unless they repent of that iniquity before the Bridegroom comes. We can hope in Him that He is peradventuring to recover some from this snare of the devil that have taken them captive at his will when God wants us all to pray normally to know what we had prayed for to give the Father genuine thanks in Jesus's name for answers to prayers.
1 Thessalonians 5:[SUP]17 [/SUP]Pray without ceasing.[SUP]18 [/SUP]In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
John 14:[SUP]13 [/SUP]And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.[SUP] 14 [/SUP]If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
I did not put the KJV above Jesus Christ when reproving his supernatural tongue which comes with no interpretation which he assumed it is a prayer language of the Holy Spirit.
I put the KJV above all other modern Bibles when reproving his supernatural tongue which comes with no interpretation when he assumed it is a prayer language of the Holy Spirit.
That is how he defames other people for using the KJV by saying we treat His words of the KJV by placing it above Jesus Christ.
Only the KJV has it right in Romans 8:26-27, while he, whatever modern Bible he is using, ignores the truth in His words of John 16:13 in how the Holy Spirit cannot speak for Himself, but speak what He hears and so the Holy Spirit CANNOT use God's gift of tongues which is for speaking unto the people ( 1 Corinthians 14:21 ) to turn that gift around and use it for His own personal means for "secret" prayer.
Only God can help him to see the truth in His words. I know I cannot do it. So pray for him and other tongue speakers in this forum that thinks tongues can be used as a prayer language for they know not what they do.
Indeed, some preach receiving the Holy Spirit apart from salvation in order to get that kind of tongue which does not cone with interpretation while failing to heed the warning about preaching another spirit to receive in 2 Corinthians 11:1-4 and why tongues will never serve as a sign towards believers, especially for receiving what they believe is the Holy Spirit, apart from salvation the second time around ( 1 Corinthians 14:22 ).
All of us are supposed to share this testimony below... as there can be no departure from that testimony for us to all speak the same thing and have the same judgment and that is why that tongue being used as a prayer language can never be of Him when it is gained by another calling... another gospel.. to receive the Holy Spirit apart from salvation with a "sign" of tongues or as some say.. with the evidence of tongues.
1 Corinthians 12:[SUP]13 [/SUP]For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1 Corinthians 1:[SUP]9 [/SUP]God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.[SUP]10 [/SUP]Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
How does this relate to the thread? 1 Timothy 4:1-2 prophesied that some shall depart from faith and give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils... and that is how the devil sows tares among the wheat and why God will remove all those that offend and do iniquity out of His kingdom to be left behind in the world where the furnace of fire is coming upon, but because they are still His, having His seal, and that He will lose none of all the Father has given Him ( John 6:39-40 ), the sheep that followed the stranger's voice ( John 10:1-5 ) will be made to hear His voice and be of the one fold & one shepherd ( John 10:16 ) as He MUST bring them because they are His.... having His seal still even after falling away from the faith ( 2 Timothy 2:11-26 ).
So the parable of the wheat & the tares is God judging His House at the pre trib rapture event as the harvest is taken out of the field as in out of the world to be received in the kingdom of the Father's above, leaving the tares behind to receive later on as vessels unto dishonor in His House.... unless they repent of that iniquity before the Bridegroom comes. We can hope in Him that He is peradventuring to recover some from this snare of the devil that have taken them captive at his will when God wants us all to pray normally to know what we had prayed for to give the Father genuine thanks in Jesus's name for answers to prayers.
1 Thessalonians 5:[SUP]17 [/SUP]Pray without ceasing.[SUP]18 [/SUP]In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
John 14:[SUP]13 [/SUP]And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.[SUP] 14 [/SUP]If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Funny that this should end up about translations. The Parable does seem to be also about this matter:
41 [FONT="]The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
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[/FONT]52 [FONT="]Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.[/FONT]
41 [FONT="]The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
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[/FONT]52 [FONT="]Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.[/FONT]
Matthew 13:36-43 explains the meaning of the parable. The wheat are the righteous people and the weeds (tares) are the unrighteousness people. The garden is the earth. The reapers are the angels. The sower is Christ. The enemy is Satan- who sowed weeds among the wheat. The harvest day is judgement day (the end of the world). The fire is hell. And the barn is heaven.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
They have to be saved believers to be in His kingdom to be taken out of His kingdom. That is not the same as some visiting unbeliever in church. They cannot offend and do iniquity in His kingdom, let alone in the church when they are not believers.
Look at 1 Corinthians 3:10-17 about what is being built on that foundation... gold, silver, precious gems as opposed to wood, stubble, and hay. The consequence for building that which can burn away on that foundation is considered as defiling the temple of God which God will destroy the physical body with death in that day of Jesus Christ by casting them into the bed of the great tribulation. See the confirmation for that consequence by reading the warning to the church at Thyatira in Revelation 2nd chapter.
Luke 12:40-49 has Jesus warning believers to prepare or else be cut off to be left behind with the unbelievers when He sends fire on the earth. He still calls them His servants as they are receiving stripes per teh degree of knowledge for not getting ready by Him in discerning & departing from iniquity.
You cannot cut anybody off to be with unbelievers if they were unbelievers; they would not need to be cut off.
Only those part of the vine can be cut off.
Peter warns of the fiery judgment that is coming on the earth to warn believers to continue to abide in Him or else.
2 Peter 3:[SUP]5 [/SUP]For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:[SUP] 6 [/SUP]Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:[SUP]7 [/SUP]But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.[SUP]8 [/SUP]But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.[SUP] 9 [/SUP]The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.[SUP]10 [/SUP]But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.[SUP]11 [/SUP]Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,[SUP]12 [/SUP]Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?[SUP]13 [/SUP]Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
So I am applying that reference above to the parable of the wheat & the tares as the furnace of fire is in the world where the tares are those saved believers that did not heed the call to go to Him for help as their Good Shepherd to discern & depart from iniquity in preparing themselves to be ready to go as found abiding in Him.
2 Timothy 2:18-21 even calls former believers because they still have His seal to depart from iniquity or else be disqualified to be received as a vessel unto honor in His House to be left behind & damned as vessels unto dishonor in His House.
So sitting in a church as an unbeliever hardly makes one of the body of Christ nor of His kingdom, to be taken OUT of His kingdom, but saved believers that offend and do iniquity ARE taken out of His kingdom just as they should be excommunicated when they are not repenting from iniquity in church.
Do churches kick out unbelievers? No. They are permitted to stay in the hopes that one day they will believe.
It is those that profess that they believe in Him and yet do iniquity without repentance is why they are to be excommunicated. So imagine that when it comes to the body of Christ when the Bridegroom comes, TAKING OUT of His kingdom that is being received into Heaven into the kingdom of the Father's, all things that offend and do iniquity.
They have to be saved believers to be in His kingdom to be taken out of His kingdom. That is not the same as some visiting unbeliever in church. They cannot offend and do iniquity in His kingdom, let alone in the church when they are not believers.
Look at 1 Corinthians 3:10-17 about what is being built on that foundation... gold, silver, precious gems as opposed to wood, stubble, and hay. The consequence for building that which can burn away on that foundation is considered as defiling the temple of God which God will destroy the physical body with death in that day of Jesus Christ by casting them into the bed of the great tribulation. See the confirmation for that consequence by reading the warning to the church at Thyatira in Revelation 2nd chapter.
Luke 12:40-49 has Jesus warning believers to prepare or else be cut off to be left behind with the unbelievers when He sends fire on the earth. He still calls them His servants as they are receiving stripes per teh degree of knowledge for not getting ready by Him in discerning & departing from iniquity.
You cannot cut anybody off to be with unbelievers if they were unbelievers; they would not need to be cut off.
Only those part of the vine can be cut off.
Peter warns of the fiery judgment that is coming on the earth to warn believers to continue to abide in Him or else.
2 Peter 3:[SUP]5 [/SUP]For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:[SUP] 6 [/SUP]Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:[SUP]7 [/SUP]But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.[SUP]8 [/SUP]But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.[SUP] 9 [/SUP]The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.[SUP]10 [/SUP]But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.[SUP]11 [/SUP]Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,[SUP]12 [/SUP]Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?[SUP]13 [/SUP]Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
So I am applying that reference above to the parable of the wheat & the tares as the furnace of fire is in the world where the tares are those saved believers that did not heed the call to go to Him for help as their Good Shepherd to discern & depart from iniquity in preparing themselves to be ready to go as found abiding in Him.
2 Timothy 2:18-21 even calls former believers because they still have His seal to depart from iniquity or else be disqualified to be received as a vessel unto honor in His House to be left behind & damned as vessels unto dishonor in His House.
So sitting in a church as an unbeliever hardly makes one of the body of Christ nor of His kingdom, to be taken OUT of His kingdom, but saved believers that offend and do iniquity ARE taken out of His kingdom just as they should be excommunicated when they are not repenting from iniquity in church.
Do churches kick out unbelievers? No. They are permitted to stay in the hopes that one day they will believe.
It is those that profess that they believe in Him and yet do iniquity without repentance is why they are to be excommunicated. So imagine that when it comes to the body of Christ when the Bridegroom comes, TAKING OUT of His kingdom that is being received into Heaven into the kingdom of the Father's, all things that offend and do iniquity.
And that is what the "wheat" represents. Yet you have will have to admit that within Christendom, there are probably millions of "tares" who outwardly are called "Christians", have even been "christened", but do not have the gift of the Holy Spirit or the gift of eternal life. And that is the whole point of the Parables of the Kingdom. All these parables show that not all who say "Lord, Lord" actually belong to Christ.
I don't know. Seems like Jesus was also talking about translations of the Bible.
Why does he say:
52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.
Treasure here is Thesauros, which goes back to the previous Chapter, where Jesus is addressing the Scribes and Pharisees. (Not sure why is instructed is passive, why not active, simply, 'instructs'.)
34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
And Paul explains what treasure is:
Col 2:2
That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
Treasure then is clearly to do with knowledge and understanding, which clearly is regulated in some way by the Grammateus, the Scribes, of whom Translators would be one type.
Why does he say:
52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.
Treasure here is Thesauros, which goes back to the previous Chapter, where Jesus is addressing the Scribes and Pharisees. (Not sure why is instructed is passive, why not active, simply, 'instructs'.)
34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
And Paul explains what treasure is:
Col 2:2
That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
Treasure then is clearly to do with knowledge and understanding, which clearly is regulated in some way by the Grammateus, the Scribes, of whom Translators would be one type.
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It is very hard to stay premillennial reading the words of Jesus, Paul and Peter let me tell you. I am struggling. Premillennialism is so complicated. Aaargh.
I know it is in Revelation 20 and parts of the Old Testament but still, I just wish Jesus, Paul and Peter would have mentioned it more, but they all give off the impression that once Jesus returns, death is swallowed up in victory, and we are off into eternity, either to eternal damnation or eternal life.
This parable of the tares is another one of those simple parables and simple teachings that I enjoy so much. I am a simple man.
I know it is in Revelation 20 and parts of the Old Testament but still, I just wish Jesus, Paul and Peter would have mentioned it more, but they all give off the impression that once Jesus returns, death is swallowed up in victory, and we are off into eternity, either to eternal damnation or eternal life.
This parable of the tares is another one of those simple parables and simple teachings that I enjoy so much. I am a simple man.
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