The Millennium literal or symbolic?
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The elements that Peter was talking about "melting with fervent heat" are not chemicals/atoms there are the "elements" of the Jewish religion of the old covenant.
Prove:
Bologna - Those are "elements of the world" you speak of [mans],
they are not Gods Holy Convocations, made for God by God. {His Oracles}
remember, preterisim dictates you can create an allegory out of whatever you want and the more the merrier
It's a literal period from the preaching of Christ until the dissolution of the old covenant in 70 AD with the destruction of the temple and the Jewish theocracy symbolically called by John "a thousand years".
Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Paul is speaking of his people receiving the promises when he wrote:
Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
There is no future remnant.
Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Paul is speaking of his people receiving the promises when he wrote:
Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
There is no future remnant.
Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
I would suggest it’s how we hear what the Spirit says as to what signified means in looking for the spiritual understanding. It’s the key that unlocks the gospel of Christ. The same key spoken of in Revelation 20 or Mathew 16 .
This is seeing a literal key does not lock (bind)or open(release)from a literal bottomless pit and neither could a literal chain hold a lying spirit. They are used to signify. It’s the gospel as the key that the gates of hell could never prevail against .It loosens or bind the things not seen the eternal.
Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
I would offer because the book of Revelation is signified using the things seen the temporal, to reveal the eternal things not seen according to 2 Corinthians 4:18. we need to search for the spiritual understanding in the parables knowing without parables, Christ the Holy Spirit spoke not..
The first resurrection began in fulfillment of a many of the Old testament promises as the glory spoken of in 1 Peter 1 in so much that he would open their graves as a result of finishing all the work necessary having prepared a place of many mansion for them the graves a temporal holding place, no longer held any value..
Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.1Pe 1:10
Since that time period to be absent from the things of this world is to be present along with the saints that have died not receiving the promise of their new bodies.
On the last day the seventh trump the saints that remain reigning with Christ here on earth they will hear the wake-up call like that of Lazarus and all together in the twinkling of the eye both will be changed into their new eternal bodies in the new heavens and earth.
Because the 1444,000 as well as the use of the word tribes is signified we understand that the 1444,000 represents a number that no man could count, it signifies all the saints from the beginning when he first had favor on Abel up until the last day, the last called heavenward
Salvation has nothing to do with the outward flesh of tribes used to signify gates for entering into fellowship with the Holy Spirit just as the walls of that same city prepared as the one bride of Christ as those sent (apostles)with the gospel .
One is signified for entering fellowship with God the other signifies those sent out. One bride .
I would suggest it’s how we hear what the Spirit says as to what signified means in looking for the spiritual understanding. It’s the key that unlocks the gospel of Christ. The same key spoken of in Revelation 20 or Mathew 16 .
This is seeing a literal key does not lock (bind)or open(release)from a literal bottomless pit and neither could a literal chain hold a lying spirit. They are used to signify. It’s the gospel as the key that the gates of hell could never prevail against .It loosens or bind the things not seen the eternal.
Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
I would offer because the book of Revelation is signified using the things seen the temporal, to reveal the eternal things not seen according to 2 Corinthians 4:18. we need to search for the spiritual understanding in the parables knowing without parables, Christ the Holy Spirit spoke not..
The first resurrection began in fulfillment of a many of the Old testament promises as the glory spoken of in 1 Peter 1 in so much that he would open their graves as a result of finishing all the work necessary having prepared a place of many mansion for them the graves a temporal holding place, no longer held any value..
Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.1Pe 1:10
Since that time period to be absent from the things of this world is to be present along with the saints that have died not receiving the promise of their new bodies.
On the last day the seventh trump the saints that remain reigning with Christ here on earth they will hear the wake-up call like that of Lazarus and all together in the twinkling of the eye both will be changed into their new eternal bodies in the new heavens and earth.
Because the 1444,000 as well as the use of the word tribes is signified we understand that the 1444,000 represents a number that no man could count, it signifies all the saints from the beginning when he first had favor on Abel up until the last day, the last called heavenward
Salvation has nothing to do with the outward flesh of tribes used to signify gates for entering into fellowship with the Holy Spirit just as the walls of that same city prepared as the one bride of Christ as those sent (apostles)with the gospel .
One is signified for entering fellowship with God the other signifies those sent out. One bride .
I would think Christian the new name God named His people is the remnant.
He had a purposed a meaning and is why used that name Christian to help to add meaning of the bride coming down on the last day. It means much more than the added meaning that some subscribe to it ,as followers of Christ. It what they do follow Christ not what the word means.
Changing the meaning of a word can add or subtract form the intended purpose.
This is the problem with all the dispensationallists of all stripes, they claim a literal interpretation when it suits their "theology".
Symbols or figures stand for something other than what they literally state - Jesus said he is the door, yet we all know he is not a literal door, yet the door is symbolic or a figure for a real thing.
Just because John used a "thousand years" in a symbolic sense (in a book full of symbols and figures) does not mean it is none existent.
Dictionary definition:
Symbol:
Symbols or figures stand for something other than what they literally state - Jesus said he is the door, yet we all know he is not a literal door, yet the door is symbolic or a figure for a real thing.
Just because John used a "thousand years" in a symbolic sense (in a book full of symbols and figures) does not mean it is none existent.
Dictionary definition:
Symbol:
something that stands for or suggests something else by reason of relationship, association, convention, or accidental resemblance; especially :a visible sign of something invisible
Figurative:
- the lion is a symbol of courage.
Figurative:
expressing one thing in terms normally denoting another with which it may be regarded as analogous :metaphorical
- figurative language
- in a figurative sense, civilization marches up and down
- —Lewis Mumford
The kingdom began on Pentecost.
Jesus has been ruling the kingdom from heaven.
The glory kingdom that Jesus speaks of in Lk. has yet to come.
The "kingdom of God" v.29, happens after the kingdom has been delivered up to the Father,
After death is destroyed 1 Cor 15:23-28, Rev 20:14.
This is the glory kingdom that Jesus is speaking about.
It is not going to be on planet earth at that time or ever.
Jesus has been ruling the kingdom from heaven.
The glory kingdom that Jesus speaks of in Lk. has yet to come.
The "kingdom of God" v.29, happens after the kingdom has been delivered up to the Father,
After death is destroyed 1 Cor 15:23-28, Rev 20:14.
This is the glory kingdom that Jesus is speaking about.
It is not going to be on planet earth at that time or ever.