The problem of female pastors

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Elizabeth619

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Okay, this thread is going off topic. The topic is about female pastors. Let's try to stick with it.
Don't you think it would be the Righteous thing to do for you to apologize to those whom you openly insulted and wrongfully judged for "not knowing scripture"?
 
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GreenNnice

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How many times does this need said: A woman who is a pastor in a church does NOT have control over ANYONE; they are a 'called' by God, just like Paul, read 1 Cor. 1:1, they are also just following Him, the Lord is our shepherd, THE Shepherd, while a pastor is a shepherd under Him. There is a difference. One we listen to, we sheep listen to the voice of, the voice of Truth; the other we listen to, too, but we don't hear his voice and follow him, he is merely a vessel that the Holy Spirit speaks His truth through, which is absolutely NO different than the bible, which is God's inspired words, or, Word.

We are to understand, too, the conviction of the Holy Spirit, done in love, of the gospel truths, and, when we are not following them, like judging others is Bible 101 thing not to EVER do, for God is our only judge. The Lord will CONVICT both the believer of their 'prodigal' ways as well as the unbeliever of their NEED for a Saviour :)


There is a difference :)
 
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Obvious your sinless. ssince you have no problem casting stones? What gives you the right to judge a person openly? Scripture says if you see a brother sinning, take him to the side, if he still sins, Take a witness, if he still sins, THEN we do the verse you just posted.

You have problems, serious problems. Its people who do what you did that get people not to even look at God.
On the contrary. It's people like you that cause people to look at Christians as cherry picking hypocrites.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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On the contrary. It's people like you that accuse Christians of being cherry picking hypocrites.
cherry picking? who is the one cherry picking sins. Not me!!

whats wrong, you don;t want to follow scripture?
 

leelee

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wisebeardman where are you? CD is skipping again!
 
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I was being nice. I was sincere in my apology, and now I've tried to change my tone with you, because I was completely wrong to respond in anger.

Now I'm telling you, as your sister in Christ, that I will pray for you to set aside your pride and open your heart. That's probably the nicest thing I could do for you- so, there you go, there's me still being nice to you.
Being nice? You've just accused me of having pride, even though you don't know my heart.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I haven't cast any stones. You have taken the verse out of context as usual.
lol. You rebuked someone OPENLY for some sin you thought she was doing it. It fits very well.. Thats exactly what they did.

open your eyes and smell the roses. Scripture tells us HOW to confront a brother or sister in sin, and you did not do it right.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Don't you think it would be the Righteous thing to do for you to apologize to those whom you openly insulted and wrongfully judged for "not knowing scripture"?
yeah, he got confronted himself and now wants to chance the subject!
 
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Don't you think it would be the Righteous thing to do for you to apologize to those whom you openly insulted and wrongfully judged for "not knowing scripture"?
With all due respect dear sister, I did not judge wrongfully. Any professing Christian who distorts God's word for whatever reason needs to be harshly rebuked. If you think I'm being harsh, Jesus is the one who is going to cast blasphemers into a lake of fire and brimstone. Twisting God's word is blasphemy, and it shouldn't be taken lightly. Yes, what I say will offend people. So what? Jesus offended the religious hypocrites and they had him crucified. But the truth still had to be told. I'm sick of these politically correct Christians who start crying every time somebody hurts their feelings.
 
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How many times does this need said: A woman who is a pastor in a church does NOT have control over ANYONE; they are a 'called' by God, just like Paul, read 1 Cor. 1:1, they are also just following Him, the Lord is our shepherd, THE Shepherd, while a pastor is a shepherd under Him. There is a difference. One we listen to, we sheep listen to the voice of, the voice of Truth; the other we listen to, too, but we don't hear his voice and follow him, he is merely a vessel that the Holy Spirit speaks His truth through, which is absolutely NO different than the bible, which is God's inspired words, or, Word.

We are to understand, too, the conviction of the Holy Spirit, done in love, of the gospel truths, and, when we are not following them, like judging others is Bible 101 thing not to EVER do, for God is our only judge. The Lord will CONVICT both the believer of their 'prodigal' ways as well as the unbeliever of their NEED for a Saviour :)


There is a difference :)
Not true! Being a pastor is a position of authority, and women are not to have authority over a man, therefore women pastors are forbidden.
 
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GreenNnice

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Cooler heads need to prevail.
Again, this is NOT a salvation issue, why make it one?? ? Dumb. Judgmental.

So, a Christian believer who believes in God's 'Love,' what He DID for us through faith in Him of His grace to us, to another believer who believes in the SAME thing, I have this to say: Why are you rebuking? as rebuking is something done to get out evil spirits, LOL, there are no evil spirits here, although some insinuated it, I won't mention any names, tribers, don't worry, or, it's 'homosexual' tendencies, LOL, again, I won't mention any names, crossnotes.


Just SILLY ! :)

You guys that come on and judge others who are just discussing what Scripture says to them are doing your faith a disservice.
The ONLY thing God wants us to judge is unrighteousness. And, He wants us to help others who are NOT giving to the poor and the needy and those who are not helping widows, too; isn't this what Scripture says? . THESE are the kinds of things we are to judge.
 
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Cooler heads need to prevail.
Again, this is NOT a salvation issue, why make it one?? ? Dumb. Judgmental.

so a Christian believer of what God's 'Love' DID for us who is NOT rebuking, as rebuking is something done to get out evil spirits, LOL, there are no evil spirits here, although some insinuated it, I won't mention any names, tribers, don't worry, or, it's 'homosexual' tendencies, LOL, again, I won't mention any names, crossnotes.


Just SILLY ! :)

You guys that come on and judge others who are just discussing what Scripture says to them are doing your faith a disservice.
The ONLY thing God wants us to judge is unrighteousness. And, He wants us to help others who are NOT giving to the poor and the needy and those who are not helping widows, too; isn't this what Scripture says? . THESE are the kinds of things we are to judge.
Well if God ordained men to be pastors and not women, then it stands to reason that we should rebuke people who support women pastors. I couldn't care less if you disagree with me, it's God you are disagreeing with.
 
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"I think" sounds like the problem. It doesn't matter what we think...What God thinks is in the Bible. What I do think after learning what God thinks, is that if I was to walk into a church being lead by a woman in the presence of capable men, I'd know I was in the wrong house and walk out.
 

TomL

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I'm glad that you posted this. I have only been saved since July. I found a church up my street and I have loved going to it. The pastor (a male) is interim. I just found out last week that he is leaving and a female pastor is taking his place! I feel extremely uneasy about this, yet I love the church.
Jesus said, "If you love me, keep/obey my commandments." Some of those commandments came from the Holy Spirit through the apostles including Paul. It's not good to put any church on a pedestal above God.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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With all due respect dear sister, I did not judge wrongfully. Any professing Christian who distorts God's word for whatever reason needs to be harshly rebuked. If you think I'm being harsh, Jesus is the one who is going to cast blasphemers into a lake of fire and brimstone. Twisting God's word is blasphemy, and it shouldn't be taken lightly. Yes, what I say will offend people. So what? Jesus offended the religious hypocrites and they had him crucified. But the truth still had to be told. I'm sick of these politically correct Christians who start crying every time somebody hurts their feelings.
We are sick of pharisees who think they are God's gift to the universe strolling around thinking what they do is from God. Why don;t ya show some humility and admit you are wrong the way you handed things? Why don;t ya admit you should have emailed her, and spoke to her 1 on 1 as God commands in church discipline? (which would have saved alot of troube for you and this thread, which is WHY God says to do it that way) or are you going to keep trying to be the holier than thou pharisee?
 
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"I think" sounds like the problem. It doesn't matter what we think...What God thinks is in the Bible. What I do think after learning what God thinks, is that if I was to walk into a church being lead by a woman in the presence of capable men, I'd know I was in the wrong house and walk out.
Well said sister
 
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MissCris

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Being nice? You've just accused me of having pride, even though you don't know my heart.
I take back the word 'pride' and exchange it for whatever it is that is keeping you from showing a Christ-like love.

No, I don't know your heart, but I can read just fine, and your words don't convey love.
 

TomL

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You men who think that women should not be pastors (or any of the other ministeries listed in Eph 4v11-16, NOTE: Eph 4v11, '...He gave some...', it is God Who sets these ministeries in the Church, NOT men) are simply male chauvinists who twist a couple of Scriptures (1Cor 14v34,35 and 1Tim 2v11-15, the context in both being in regards to domestic issues, NOT church practice, as many Scriptures clearly teach that women fulfilled these ministeries, for instance, Priscilla, who taught truth to an Apostle and had a church in her house, Acts 18v26, Rom 16v3-5, 1Cor 4v6-9) so as to make them fit their warped viewpoint! Dear sisters don't let these spiritually blind persons (who are simply doing the enemies work) stop you from exercising your God given ministeries! Yahweh Shalom...
Why would God set up a ministry that violates His own Word?