The problem of female pastors

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Blain

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So then you're just going to pick and choose what parts of the Bible is suitable for you. God is the one who ordained men to be pastors, so if you don't like it then take it up with the Lord.
Then i will take the consiquences for my belief. I will let The father condemn me if he must, but I don't see as you do.
 
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carey

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Isn't the word God inspired??? To say it was just Paul's opinion is to say he wasn't writing under the inspiration of the holy spirit, we can't turn gods word into what we want it to say just cause we don't agree with it

I'm sorry but saying woman should not be pastors is just foolish. Do we men see ourselves better than a woman? I should hope not, if it weren't for our mothers we would not be born. Paul may have had his own opinion on this but that doesn't make him right.
 
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Isn't the word God inspired??? To say it was just Paul's opinion is to say he wasn't writing under the inspiration of the holy spirit, we can't turn gods word into what we want it to say just cause we don't agree with it
Well said carey. Unfortunately, you can take a bear to a toilet but you can't make it crap. People will pick and choose from the Bible whatever suits them and ignore the parts that don't.
 
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What do you think about Deborah who was a judge of Israel. Where does Esther fit in with this belief. Some the most anointed evangelist I have heard were women. I am a man and I have been too many churches and it seems to that the women were more devoted than most of the men.
 
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What do you think about Deborah who was a judge of Israel. Where does Esther fit in with this belief. Some the most anointed evangelist I have heard were women. I am a man and I have been too many churches and it seems to that the women were more devoted than most of the men.
Oh please, not this again. Deborah was NOT a pastor. 99.9% of the time God ordained men to lead, not women. You have to be desperate to focus on the 0.1% and ignore the 99.9% Show me anywhere in the Bible where God ordained a woman as a pastor. You can't. All you're doing is taking part of the feminist liberal agenda that is plaguing Western churches.
 
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Oh please, not this again. Deborah was NOT a pastor. 99.9% of the time God ordained men to lead, not women. You have to be desperate to focus on the 0.1% and ignore the 99.9% Show me anywhere in the Bible where God ordained a woman as a pastor. You can't. All you're doing is taking part of the feminist liberal agenda that is plaguing Western churches.
God can use anyone He chooses. I will agree that most of the time it is a man. Usually a man that has a strong women in his life. Don't underestimate the fact that a wife strong In the Lord is not extremely helpful because she will set him straight. Deborah was A JUDGE.
 
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As a matter of fact the first preacher of the Gospel after Jesus was Mary.
 
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You cannot put God in a box. There is no way you can box Him in. Look at Solomon, when he offered 1,000 bulls it was at a high place and not the alter. Yet He came to him in a dream and asked him what he wanted and he said wisdom and it was given to him Yet he clearly broke the law. God does whatever pleases Him. I am not God and who am I to challenge Him.
 

Elizabeth619

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I'm sorry, but I knew a female Methodist pastor when I was in high school. She was a wonderful woman, the kind you just love her the minute you meet her. And years later she married my husband and I and I was thrilled to get her. Now there is a retired female pastor attending the church I attend and she has all the qualities I would want in a pastor. She holds bible studies in her home every other week. One of the most spiritual, Godly women I've ever met. She runs the service when our regular pastor is off. We love her. I believe it's the person's heart that God sees, not their gender.


Yes. God sees the heart and not the physical, but that doesn't mean men and women are the same. We have different roles. If we were the same we would all be one gender we aren't.
 

Elizabeth619

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I'm sorry but saying woman should not be pastors is just foolish. Do we men see ourselves better than a woman? I should hope not, if it weren't for our mothers we would not be born. Paul may have had his own opinion on this but that doesn't make him right.
If it wasn't for men you wouldn't be born either. It takes two people of opposite gender to create a baby.
 

Elizabeth619

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You men who think that women should not be pastors (or any of the other ministeries listed in Eph 4v11-16, NOTE: Eph 4v11, '...He gave some...', it is God Who sets these ministeries in the Church, NOT men) are simply male chauvinists who twist a couple of Scriptures (1Cor 14v34,35 and 1Tim 2v11-15, the context in both being in regards to domestic issues, NOT church practice, as many Scriptures clearly teach that women fulfilled these ministeries, for instance, Priscilla, who taught truth to an Apostle and had a church in her house, Acts 18v26, Rom 16v3-5, 1Cor 4v6-9) so as to make them fit their warped viewpoint! Dear sisters don't let these spiritually blind persons (who are simply doing the enemies work) stop you from exercising your God given ministeries! Yahweh Shalom...
I guess I'm a male chauvinist
 
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Not to mention Anna from the account of Luke...she was a prophet. Prophets have the same roles as preachers. Basically all prophets did was **PREACH**. To say that God did not ordain women as ministers is ignorant of what is presented in the Scripture. Besides, what's the difference between a woman behind a pulpit and a woman sharing the Gospel and starting a church in another country? There is no difference. America is mainly the ONLY country that has a problem with ministers being women. I know a minister in Atlanta and she is a woman. She is FAR from being homosexually supportive so to say that has something to do with homosexuality is ignorance as well. It annoys me when people take Paul's letter that was meant for THAT PARTICULAR culture and congregation and apply it to ALL churches as a whole. The women in that situation were advised to be quiet. He was not talking about all women because if he was implying all women to be quiet, Paul would not be accepting of Priscilla having a role in ministry in spreading the Gospel (which she did.)
 
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So then you're just going to pick and choose what parts of the Bible is suitable for you. God is the one who ordained men to be pastors, so if you don't like it then take it up with the Lord.
The problem is that even today the bible is veiled. For most of us here, our mother was our first teacher.

The "women" you speak of in the verses you mention are the same personification of the "whore" in revelation. This woman (women) are to remain silent in the churches.
 

Elizabeth619

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Not to mention Anna from the account of Luke...she was a prophet. Prophets have the same roles as preachers. Basically all prophets did was **PREACH**. To say that God did not ordain women as ministers is ignorant of what is presented in the Scripture. Besides, what's the difference between a woman behind a pulpit and a woman sharing the Gospel and starting a church in another country? There is no difference. America is mainly the ONLY country that has a problem with ministers being women. I know a minister in Atlanta and she is a woman. She is FAR from being homosexually supportive so to say that has something to do with homosexuality is ignorance as well. It annoys me when people take Paul's letter that was meant for THAT PARTICULAR culture and congregation and apply it to ALL churches as a whole. The women in that situation were advised to be quiet. He was not talking about all women because if he was implying all women to be quiet, Paul would not be accepting of Priscilla having a role in ministry in spreading the Gospel (which she did.)
Priscilla assisted her husband in teaching Apollo.

The bible doesn't say women cannot speak at all. He did create us with a mouth and voice for a reason. Women should not preach in presence of Christian men.

The bible also states that women are the fairer sex as well.
Eve was created as a help meat to Adam
Also, when it comes to this issue if equality and authority there is a character in the bible who wanted equality and be the same to the one in authority. Things didnt go well for him.
 

tribesman

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...So why is it that nearly every baptist or methodist church I come across in the UK, they have a female pastor along with a male pastor?...
Rebellion and pride is the answer to that. People thinking their own imaginations to be wiser than the Word of God.
 

Dotann

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Hey liz girl, i miss ya! LOL and so glad to know you still ROCK! heheheheh Nice pic of you and your son!

;)

On a new note, I agree with you 100% as i preach all the time at many churches where i am called to go and you know what.. God is the one who provides me with the messages too.. Many times i pray about what to say and then, He is faithful and even when something comes as a scripture or topic to mind, it might be one that is not to my taste, but God always shows and gives me directions in Words and it always works! God is always faithful and loving!

He never gives up on us and is not prideful to say i can only use some while others are not good enough, for He knows he is the only one truly good!

I always take encouragement from Balaams donkey for if God can use a donkey to speak and teach Balaam to go down the right path, then surely he can use me! For am i not better than a donkey or are women less than animals now... I know according to God of the bible, He didn't think so for MY GOD says He can do and USE ANY THING! After all, He is God, He makes the rules, not me nor men! All He asks of us is to follow... Many are too busy trying to force themselves to the top instead of following and humility is a quality that even Jesus respected and achieved!
 

Elizabeth619

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Rebellion and pride is the answer to that. People thinking their own imaginations to be wiser than the Word of God.
And who is famous for being prideful and rebelling against God? It was that guy that fell outta Heaven wasn't it?
 

Elizabeth619

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I do have a question for those in favor of female preachers.

Is it ok for a wife to preach to her Christian husband at home?
 
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I tell you sumpin else. When your wife knows that you are in error, boy that's a cold bedroom. and if she knows you don't like spinach. Guess what, she will fix spinach every night. If moma ain't happy, nobody is happy. I Know you ladies like this.