The purpose of Christ
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Like as far as I see it with Torah observance and following Torah (this is a smaller picture of it).
Paul states it's holy, just, and good (why would we not participate in this if it's these things?)
Paul states it makes you aware of sin (why would we not want be aware of sin? if we're aware of sin, we are able to stay away from sin)
I mean look at those 2 simple basic examples.
Yeshua states to repent, to turn away from sin. How do we turn away from sin?
And befores someone says, "By accepting Yeshua." Then, ok well after accepting Yeshua, what happens after that? How do we live, and avoid sin?
Yeshua and the Holy Spirit is our guide and lead us away from sinning, which mean walking a holy, just, and righteous walk.
Well according to Paul what's just, right, and holy? . . . . What's good if it's followed properly(or "lawfully")?
Paul states it's holy, just, and good (why would we not participate in this if it's these things?)
Paul states it makes you aware of sin (why would we not want be aware of sin? if we're aware of sin, we are able to stay away from sin)
I mean look at those 2 simple basic examples.
Yeshua states to repent, to turn away from sin. How do we turn away from sin?
And befores someone says, "By accepting Yeshua." Then, ok well after accepting Yeshua, what happens after that? How do we live, and avoid sin?
Yeshua and the Holy Spirit is our guide and lead us away from sinning, which mean walking a holy, just, and righteous walk.
Well according to Paul what's just, right, and holy? . . . . What's good if it's followed properly(or "lawfully")?
The Son came and will [reveal] the Father to us if willing
22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is,
but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father;
neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is,
but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father;
neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
the transfer to Judah and the priesthood of Yahshua Hamashiach is found in TORAH all along - the change is from the old Levitical priesthood to JESUS highpriest - the old priesthood had to offer sacrifices every year >< Yahshua entered into the heavenlies , a sacrifice once for all time. He didn't change TORAH/GOD'S WORD.
The change is from the earthly priesthood in the order of Aaron
to the eternal priesthood in the order of Melchizedek.
It's an entirely new priesthood, not related to the Levitical priesthood.
Straw man. . .
The words spoken by the Son in these last days (Heb 1:1-2) through the NT writers
do not "change" God's word, they are God's word.
Stop putting asunder what God has joined.
to the eternal priesthood in the order of Melchizedek.
It's an entirely new priesthood, not related to the Levitical priesthood.
Straw man. . .
The words spoken by the Son in these last days (Heb 1:1-2) through the NT writers
do not "change" God's word, they are God's word.
Stop putting asunder what God has joined.
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a lot of what elin posts just doesn't make sense at all. and elin makes to attempt to 'explain'... very different from other posters no matter if they are right or wrong, just doesn't make sense... the reason could be anything from language translation troubles(i don't know what country elin hales from), to a computer program dictating answers, to an organizations manual with the answers down pat(without any real solution) , to autistic spectrum/ocd/other focus, to paraplegic, to roman catholic disrupter....
just very strange (inexplicable) and not in a helpful way, due to intrinsic errors elin posts...
just very strange (inexplicable) and not in a helpful way, due to intrinsic errors elin posts...
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We're saying following Torah is not wrong to do. At least I'm stating that, and I will defend the fact that Torah is not wrong to follow. We're also stating that we do not believe the Torah is voided and obsolete, but along with that we still have not once stated that the Torah is salvation, we've stated repeatedly that Yeshua is the way to salvation.
When you come across and say, "it's not a means of salvation." to someone who's already stated that, then that person (such as myself) is going to take that as you are saying that I'm following it as a means of salvation when I'm not.
When you come across and say, "it's not a means of salvation." to someone who's already stated that, then that person (such as myself) is going to take that as you are saying that I'm following it as a means of salvation when I'm not.
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Pretty strong words, for somebody who has no idea how to dye those Hebrew roots. Instead of coming to the foot of the cross, one can only suppose you came to the foot of a cable access channel and Buffalo Bill Hawkins. Little girls play house, Hebrew roots play Jew. It's inexplicable what any of you have to do with the faith and righteousness, which is only of Jesus Christ.
