The Rapture

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So are you saying you are a worker of iniquity then?

Rev 22:15 and without are the dogs, and the sorcerers, and the whoremongers, and the murderers, and the idolaters, and every one who is loving and is doing a lie.
No I'm not a worker of iniquity.
 
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You've got to understand the "end of the world" is looked forward to by many. Refuting that is a major frustration for them.

John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world (Greek - kosmos).

Well I used to be one of them so I can relate to their frustration. It's not easy to just drop what you've believed for years... it took me years to change my views and I think my dispy roots still cloud my judgement on some things.
 

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Nah. If this all happened AD70, then there would be nothing causing offence left in the Kingdom.

41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

Offensive things aren't in the kingdom. They are outside.
 

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It's not the earliness of it, it's the 9 Av 70 AD part. I don't see that anywhere in the bible.
It's on the last day of the age. Didn't you read my long post awhile back? #5952.
 
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Try being Jesus KJ. He lived with his crucifixion from the day he made the world.
He knew His fate from before the foundation of the world.
 

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Twilight Zone - good show - and the Outer Limits..

I only shifted from "futurist" around 3 years ago - I spent a hard year of intense study using J.D. Pentecost's "Things to come - a study in bible eschatology" which is generally considered the goto book on dispensensationalism...:p... and comparing it to the preterist view.
 
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It's on the last day of the age. Didn't you read my long post awhile back? #5952.
Yeah I read it and I'm pretty sure I responded to you. But my response was something like show me where the bible says the destruction of the temple was the last day.
 
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Twilight Zone - good show - and the Outer Limits..

I only shifted from "futurist" around 3 years ago - I spent a hard year of intense study using J.D. Pentecost's "Things to come - a study in bible eschatology" which is generally considered the goto book on dispensensationalism...:p... and comparing it to the preterist view.
I started reading the bible especially the old testament and that changed my view.
 
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The thread must be getting interesting when "Lydia a poster of purple" shows up...

 

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How many times was he slain?
As soon as Cain slew Abel, atoning blood was required.


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That would mean that Revelation 13:8 says the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world (church age).... not from the begining of time or eternity past or whatever people thinks that verse means lol. Nice J7!

Revelation 13:8 KJV
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

I would offer. The fleshly demonstration of a work not possible to be seen with our human eyes(we walk by faith the unseen) did not profit as if it was the first 6 days (the foundation) in which the lamb of God was slain. The demonstration was a picture or parable . God is not a man and neither is he a Lamb. Pouring out His Spirit, the promise is not a work visible.
of the work fisihed from the foundation of the world (6 days)

In the flesh of the Son of man was used as a demonstration. Christ resisted all attempts of men having a faith in respect to what we see or what the scripture calls a “daysman” .God is not a man as us. When those who look to accredit his flesh as good which again he says profits for nothing, those sin will not be held against them. The ones that will contribute that work against the Holy Spirit not seen will not be forgiven .Like those in the Hebrews 6 boat.who tasted of the work of the Holy Spirit and said no thank you we will crucify him over and over as if it was not a demonstration but the actul work of the Lamb of God a representive of the Hoy Spirit .

Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man(flesh) , it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost (Spirit) , it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Neither in that age or the generation of Christ or the age to come when we have received the promise of a new body.

The Amil position (no literal thousand years) which was the most popular during the reformation irons out the best for some.
 
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He knew His fate from before the foundation of the world.
Yes and performed the work of pouring out His Spirit possibly at the same time he corrupted the present world and universe.

Genesis 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
 

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No need for us to get frustrated, these are hard things to understand for sure. We do very well when we just agree to disagree.... PW's errors (I love you PW) have helped me to see many many things that I didn't see before. He's like unlocking scriptures that I never understood before.
Awe, love you too man!! You've also shown me a thing or two.
 

PlainWord

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You are making zero sense. Even employing brevity
Can't you take a joke? What's your deal anyway? I can't tell which side of the fence you are on sometimes. :cool: