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According to scientific discoveries,proofs,facts ADAM and eve were NOT the first created! *Genesis 1:28 Lit. Ar. id.: God created the aboriginal man first.Not the Australian abbo, but the neanderthal man.


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wdeaton65

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well that's up to you to believe. But if you look real close at the verse,in the modern bibles,and in the aramaic as well, it says "If they (people in the other land) find me,they will kill me!"Cain went INTO the land of NOD, (then) found a wife,then he knew her,had intercourse with her. He first went into the Land of NOD, or "wandering", or "fugitive" in the Aramaic,then he found his wife!

16. And Cain left the presence of the Lord and settled in the land of the nomads, east of Eden.How could there be Nomads - wanderers - if there was only Adam,eve,Cain,Abel before Cain murdered him??
17. And Cain took a wife - he didn't take her from Eden! - and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch, and [Cain] started a village and called it after his son Enoch.Ask yourself,did Cain really have incest with his own sister??? Does the bible out rightly state that he did indeed??

And there are 2 DIFFERENT accounts of the creation of men - one in the image,the 2nd from the dust,clay,red clay - Islam -the blood clot.The friends of Jesus society claim in their "Q",there are letters in the margins of ancient scriptures found like D E P M Q etc.Proof that several scribes wrote different versions.Different accounts.

And hello, if science is to be believed when they say they found Neanderthal man's bones,odd elongated heads and visually produce ancient bones you can see are indeed real,feel real look real,smell real,etc etc all over the middle east and world,proof of a pre-man or neanderthals,not a Darwin tadpole or ape or anoemeba(?) Or they not then either; telling the truth until you or someone else proves they were fake plaster casts??

And the translator of the Aramaic stated, he was shocked to find Genesis a mish mash,and that it contained the hint of neanderthal man.Pre-man BEFORE adam ...

And ...Adam and eve had more sex and popped out more kids...Sons and daughters...SETH..? after...Cain killed Abel.
Did you ever hear of a guy named jim jones he had some of this stuff in the US back in the 70s we call it KOOLAID.

It seems your friend here has the same kind of drink Just wanted to ask what should I do with the hebrew Torah. Perhaps GOD was just kidding about adam and eve. What do you think?
 
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Ariel82

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Since Seth is Adam's descendent then as long as Seth and HIS kids or grandkids or great great great grandkids lived, then Adam's lineage lives..............

Oh why do I bother?

I get the feeling you haven't read the WHOLE Bible in English in any version or you would see how illogical such claims are.

Luke 3
[h=3][/h][SUP]23 [/SUP]Now Jesus Himself began His ministry at about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, the son of Heli, [SUP]24 [/SUP]the son of Matthat,[SUP][d][/SUP] the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Janna, the son of Joseph, [SUP]25 [/SUP]the son of Mattathiah, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Naggai, [SUP]26 [/SUP]the son of Maath, the son of Mattathiah, the son of Semei, the son of Joseph, the son of Judah, [SUP]27 [/SUP]the son of Joannas, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel, the son of Neri, [SUP]28 [/SUP]the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elmodam, the son of Er, [SUP]29 [/SUP]the son of Jose, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, [SUP]30 [/SUP]the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonan, the son of Eliakim, [SUP]31 [/SUP]the son of Melea, the son of Menan, the son of Mattathah, the son of Nathan, the son of David, [SUP]32 [/SUP]the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, the son of Salmon, the son of Nahshon, [SUP]33 [/SUP]the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, [SUP]34 [/SUP]the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, [SUP]35 [/SUP]the son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, [SUP]36 [/SUP]the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, [SUP]37 [/SUP]the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan, [SUP]38 [/SUP]the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
 
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richie_2uk

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Religion Religion Religion! Arrrrghh, cant you see what RELIGION does to people? It divides the real God of Faith to the human race. Keep all your occults to yourself. this Is a Christian website. not a gathering of occult knowledge. Why do we need to look on websites? other books, or other media just to find Christ, who died on the cross to save your very souls? THE BIBLE is all you need not stupid websites that proclaims false teachings. If you want a real quote? Read this Deuteronomy 13:1-3 and if you cant be bothered to get your bible to read it: I let you read it here: Deuteronomy 13:1-3 " If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul." God Bless who listens to the real God, and not gods of false teachers.
 
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nonplasticcholyman

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dude it's NOT a cult if its one man translating it hahahaha! stop smoking that fish! See you are reading and believing a version possibly made in 1965...This is the original unedited uncorrupted ever hidden for 2000 years 2000 years older is ancient, not 1965! Hidden therefore protected from the rcc,the ancient Aramaic that which JC the disciples spoke,wrote,read,the apostles read,Paul read,spoke etc. Mate; go do the research, and you'll find I'm not lying to you! Your basic logic is based on an "Americanized" version, pushed as far back as "the gospel" "spoon fed" first US missionaries and so on down through the years.

Yeshua said, "the road is narrow few will find it, most are on the broad road...."Because they've been deceived, tricked!All reprinted,changed,verses removed,put back in later editions. Go on youtube and watch that Ahmed daweet? of what he found out about the modern versions... go look at the foreword of your NIV GNB NWT and see,they admit to it being a mish mash of added Coptic,Babylonian,Chaldean,the Talmud etc etc done by a committee who chose what was to be added edited included,left out,etc. Authorized by men, not Yah...

"The whole world has been deceived" by whom? the very elite,the evangelists,the free-mason satanic affiliated evangelists spreading their lies.To them it's all about the money,honey!!
Basic logic doesn't cut the mustard...It's Every word that proceedth from the Mouth of God - his words they never changed until Man changed them! it's a fact - a historical,well literal,proven fact, scribes changed them deliberately over many centuries!

Here is the fact - the proof - the irrefutable truth -
Victor Alexander's translation of the Old Testament utilizes the cuneiform manuscripts discovered by archeologists in Mesopotamia in the late 19th Century AD. The Ashurai king Ashurbanipal, during his 7th Century BC reign out of Nineveh, sent out emissaries to the southern region, the land of Shin'ar (Sumer) and Chaldee (Babylonia) in search of the ancient epics such as the Epic of Creation, which included the story of Adam and Eve, the Epic of Gilgamesh, which included the story of Noah and the Flood. He had them translated in the modern Ashurit language of his day, however, the originals were three thousand years older but also in cuneiform. Interestingly the stories had been preserved essentially the same. Ironically, by the time of Jesus Christ, the Scriptures recorded during the Babylonian Captivity five centuries before had become so narrowly interpreted that the scribes and Pharisees failed to recognize Jesus as the Messiah prophesied by all those millennial religious records. Today, both Judaism and the Catholic Church have realized the contribution of the cuneiform tablets of the Ashurai to the understanding of the roots of the Bible. The archeologists Sir Henry Austen Layard and Hormuzd Rassam discovered the Ashurbanipal Library intact in Nineveh and crated the 50,000 tablets to the British Museum in London. They are the pride of the British Museum, together with the oldest Ancient Aramaic Old Testament which dates back to the 4th Century AD. go look up the history my friend, to see if the facts match!

Alaha bless, my friend....
 
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Ariel82

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the guy was rejected for a reason: HIS INFORMATION IS INACCURATE. He says so himself

I tried to show my documentary to libraries and schools but they all refused to consider it. I sent it to festivals. They all rejected it. I was told that the information in my documentary film was inaccurate.
it seems as if he just wants to sell some books and movies.
 
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nonplasticcholyman

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mate, why are you so angry? Did the two edged sword of truth that cuts deep,very deep, hit a nerve?? As I said to the other dude, it's NOT a cult, or the occult,its fact.Look for the history,check the facts,go the v-a.com read the text.It is fact, that Yeshua (jc) spoke wrote Aramaic.As did the disciples and apostles.The people in the bible scolded him and said in some versions - haahah - "You Gallilean...." Go look at the apostolic orthodox church of the east online...hello is that a cult?? It's the same as the Aramaic.It's based on the Aramaic.etc.etc.It's the original catholic; the Roman is a bad knock off of it.Did Jesus not come from the middle east thereby his language was of the east,etc etc?
 
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nonplasticcholyman

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No no no read it properly guy....
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tried to show his documentary to libraries and schools but they all refused to consider it. He sent it to festivals. They all rejected it.He was told that the information in his documentary film was inaccurate.by them, by other...Please buy glasses,sir.

Today after thirty years, HE still finds a great resistance toward his translation of the authentic Bible and the truth about Eashoa Msheekha (Jesus the Messiah.) The American Churches do not want to know the truth.

Why do you lie and say he said this when it shows word for word that he clearly didn't?? Are you one of those Illuminati affiliated, paid to talk junk in sites?:cool:
Just curious....no hurt intended guy. Yeah he wants to sell some as he has to eat, but it's not "send me $1000 and GOD will give you back 100 fold or $10,000!" His mission is to get the original, the true scriptures back into the west! I can't afford any of his books but I will push it here there in the west! And no I don't get paid...to do that...I just love this version so much and this old man,(as a christian! :)) as I've really gotten to know him via emails.
 
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richie_2uk

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Deuteronomy 13:1-3 " If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul." God Bless who listens to the real God, and not gods of false teachers.
 
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nonplasticcholyman

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hey is that guy woody allen? or the ghostbuster dude?? he looks jewish, maybe a zionist kabbalah talmud loving one? :eek:
 
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richie_2uk

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the guy was rejected for a reason: HIS INFORMATION IS INACCURATE. He says so himself



it seems as if he just wants to sell some books and movies.
Looks like Nonplasticcholyman is trying to sell it to us Christians. trying to get his money back. lol Rejection, mis-information, inaccurate, what that tell you? lol anyways like I said. Deuteronomy 13:1-3 " If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul." God Bless who listens to the real God, and not gods of false teachers.
 
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Ariel82

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angry?

sorry you must be projecting....i'll leave u to it then....
 
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I think all the human reasoning, the labeling, the grouping together of an ism or denomination is the way Satan works with us to mess with our thinking. Scrpture, straight, is truth, nothing else. Scripture without reading it from the spiritual is messing with what scripture says. Scripture without seeing the literal is messing with what scripture says. There are thousands of ways we can blind ourselves to scripture.

Once our human minds put a label on something scriptual we can stop all reason, simply handle the entirety of what we labeled. So if it is a thought from the Catholics it is Catholic thinking, we can stop looking at scripture and just look at the Catholic label. That way we can accept or reject the scripture based only on the label. Saves us from allowing God in our lives on a personal basis.

The church has done that with Torah, Jews, Christ as love, angels, lots of scripture. It is a way not to accept God.
 
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nonplasticcholyman

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dude its either true,the scientists etc have proof of pre men neanderthals bones etc or it's a provable lie! So how can you deny the neanderthal man!? iIf there is real proof? Not talking about the apes you see in pics they try to tell us were our ancestors! not the Darwinian crap! Men with big heads slow runners,due to the account of there extraordinarily big heads.Easy to catch and kill,by the faster,sleeker, more agile humanoids.The neanderthals interbred with humanoids or Homo Erectus or whoever and produced hybrids, human humanoids.They were finally interbred out of existence...Homo Sapien sapiens...saw that on a BBC doco today! You're being duped by charlatans like benny hinn,duplantis,copeland,dollar etc.
 
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richie_2uk

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Nonplasticcholyman: Give up now while you got a chance, you won't convince us with a man made false teachings, that wasn't approved, that was inaccurate, mis-informed and rejected. You fighting a lost course. But if you want to believe in such thing, then feel free too. But don't try to put all this false teachings on us Christians who believe in what they believe in. It ain' going to work.
 
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nonplasticcholyman

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I agree all must come through the holy spirit all teaching correction etc.The books,the church,the bible is merely a manual,a guide,for us to read,follow,interpret,correct,correct others,experience and learn from our mistakes.Relating our experiences to it,proves true. I did once read proverbs 3x about meeting the promiscuous woman and sleeping with her blah blah blah.The spirit I believe was trying to tell me "don't go there". What did I do? I went there and I realized way after, hey, I read those scriptures and what happened? I got treated like crap,miserable,and so on. My payback for disobeying the warning.Now,that's what I base my belief around is those scriptures are true! Just I found the original, as we all seek after,yes? and now the modern versions are my reference.
I look at them as well. I don't care if someone says "cult occult" etc I believe what I prayed for and got revealed for me,to me, as the real truth!

So let me believe it; express it;as moved by the rua ha kodesh/spirit and if I am wrong I am accountable, not you or you!
 
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wdeaton65

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dude its either true,the scientists etc have proof of pre men neanderthals bones etc or it's a provable lie! So how can you deny the neanderthal man!? iIf there is real proof? Not talking about the apes you see in pics they try to tell us were our ancestors! not the Darwinian crap! Men with big heads slow runners,due to the account of there extraordinarily big heads.Easy to catch and kill,by the faster,sleeker, more agile humanoids.The neanderthals interbred with humanoids or Homo Erectus or whoever and produced hybrids, human humanoids.They were finally interbred out of existence...Homo Sapien sapiens...saw that on a BBC doco today! You're being duped by charlatans like benny hinn,duplantis,copeland,dollar etc.
Who do you think runs those education systems GOD or little g. They are lieing like all there other fake science nonsense. They do not have any neanderthals bones. It is called the missing link because it never existed. You will find this out it will turn out to be another hoax. joseph smith taze russel and albert pike manley p hal and many others say they had a new idea same old trash man. Run from this teaching as fast as you can. All you have done at the end of the day is trade one cult for another.
 
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nonplasticcholyman

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why are you making up crap guy? I told you I can't afford to buy his books,I want one but damn I have to wait for my birthday in may and buy it for myself. That guy is saying this and that when any one can plainly see it doesn't say what he claimed it does...get glasses sir...you need them.and learn to read slowly and understand the text.you have to be a Illuminati antagonist for sure.:) As I said check the history of the translators claims. Damn I've been through enough lying modern churches to know....
"Blessed,sanctified (made holy) are they when they are ridiculed..." :) Alaha bless and may Eoshoa Mar'yah mesheeka forgive.